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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

I'm rating you optimistic because insane seems unfair.

I'll take whatever hopium you've been huffing please.

Who's voting labour? Nobody likes them or the tories. There's plenty of time for Starmer to whoopsie daisy and announce he's supporting Israel or palestine, both are a death trap.

Farage is promosing a tax threshold raise that would give money back to minimum wage-slaves, to balance out inflation.
He's talking of ending immigration. Sure, it's talk but he's talking the language of the working classes. No-one else represents them.

You need 326 to form a majority in Parliament. We can be generous here and say that the DUP are along for the ride again. The closest I can get on the Financial Times tool to that is having both the Tories and Reform climbing to around 27% of the vote share each and Labour dropping to 30% of the vote:
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Latest Redfield & Wilton poll has Labour on 43%, Reform on 18%, Conservative on 18%, Lib Dems on 12%, Greens on 5%, SNP on 3% and other on 1% which yields this:
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That would put Labour as having about 75% of the seats and a massive majority, with the Lib Dems as the Opposition (and Reform having twice as many seats as the Tories, who would be a smaller Westminster party than SNP is now). Admittedly the models are breaking down a bit as the Conservatives perform so abysmally (and I'm not sure how they're weighting SNP or Plaid Cymru vote share on this).
Even with the Financial Times "poll of polls" which has Conservatives on 22%, Labour on 42% and Reform on 14%:
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the Conservatives would be the Opposition, Reform would have no seats and Labour would still have about 75% of the seats. I can't really see where this massive swing in voting intention would come from in just two weeks to make your vision come true, especially since postal ballots (which are a mainstay of Tory voters) have already been getting sent off.

Thank you, for taking the time to entertain my post by compiling this. Sincerely, I appreciate the effort. I hate to piss on the bonfire but I was told Trump wouldn't win, Brexit wouldn't happen and Corbyn was nailed on, all because of polls.

With that said, nothing ever happens. So I expect labour to win and fuck the country up. If they hand out free money, I'll have some.

 

[Just a boring name]

I do hope our apocalyptic future is set to the background music of the Wurzels and Lancashire Hotpots.

Please don't forget the wonderful Everly Pregnant Brothers!

 

[3deadniggers]

Farage is promosing a tax threshold raise that would give money back to minimum wage-slaves, to balance out inflation.
He's talking of ending immigration. Sure, it's talk but he's talking the language of the working classes. No-one else represents them.

Do the working class exist when everyone's on benefits?

Farage is saying the right words but Trump already did that and got no where. For my entire life time everyone has hated all the major parties but nothing has ever come of it. There's no way to vote yourself out of 4 wolves and 1 sheep.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

Do the working class exist when everyone's on benefits?

They're on benefits or top ups because working doesn't benefit. You can claim dole+bonus' while doing some off-books work now and then while living comfortably enough in a DSS house, spending all day smoking weed with a tax=payer decked out house.

Cut benefits, make work worth it.

 

[3deadniggers]

They're on benefits or top ups because working doesn't benefit. You can claim dole+bonus' while doing some off-books work now and then while living comfortably enough in a DSS house, spending all day smoking weed with a tax=payer decked out house.

Cut benefits, make work worth it.

I agree but we all know the benefits they would cut wouldn't be the exploitable ones. They usually make it more difficult to get on disability rather than making job seekers less worth it.

 

[FedPostalService]

Who's voting labour? Nobody likes them or the tories. There's plenty of time for Starmer to whoopsie daisy and announce he's supporting Israel or palestine, both are a death trap.

A lot of normies quite like Starmer. From the old boomers who say they’re socialists but are really just conservatives who want other people to pay for stuff to the average office bum with Tory derangement syndrome.

Real people don’t give two flying fucks about Palestinians.

The Tories has got weak and the electorate is retarded enough to punish them by voting in an even weaker and more crazy party.

 

[Doctor Love]

They usually make it more difficult to get on disability rather than making job seekers less worth it.

Bingo.

I think that my unbridled fedposting should show you how fucking bad the situation is for the disabled.

These people deserve to be shot. They are evil - they are not mistaken. There's no TV crew rushing to hear my story. There's plenty, for someone who was called a n i g g e r - Their intent is to siphon as much for themselves and leave you dead in the street - you are one bad day away from having to go into debt, just to stay alive.

It's better to handle it while you actually, physically can - I'd recommend speaking to anyone in a wheelchair, and just see how many of them would gladly turn it in for a tankette, if they had the opportunity.

 

[Spunt]

Get a crossbow while they're still legal. In a country with very few guns where shit has hit the fan, crossbow > machete and might just save your life. A 100lb draw crossbow can punch clean through a barn door at 50m and inflicts wounds a .50cal would be proud of.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Cut benefits, make work worth it.

If work was worth it you wouldn’t have to cut benefits.

 

[FedPostalService]

I remember saying people who don’t work should be poor and friends acting like I was a monster. Motherfuckers, take a look at how much you pay in taxes and think harder about what I just said.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

I remember saying people who don’t work should be poor and friends acting like I was a monster. Motherfuckers, take a look at how much you pay in taxes and think harder about what I just said.

Most of your stuff doesn’t go to the people that don’t work. That’s why they constantly bang on about it. It’s the shit like bombing people it goes towards. If anything the ‘not working’ pot constantly gets raided to cover bad mistakes and frequently the not working, usually through no fault of their own, suffer as a result.

 

[FedPostalService]

Most of your stuff doesn’t go to the people that don’t work. That’s why they constantly bang on about it. It’s the shit like bombing people it goes towards. If anything the ‘not working’ pot constantly gets raided to cover bad mistakes and frequently the not working, usually through no fault of their own, suffer as a result.

Get a job.

 

[EddyRooney]

If work was worth it you wouldn’t have to cut benefits.

You've got the cart before the horse.
There are always going to be some jobs that pay more than others ( market forces ). You can't make the jobs at the bottom pay more artificially as all this does is cause inflation and create a skewed labour market ( a classic socialist policy that has completely unintended consequences for its good intentions ). Minimum wage is a joke policy.
The only way is to cut benefits and make people do jobs they don't want to ( the alternative, oh I don't know, is to encourage an invasion of cheap foreign labour and destroy your culture ). The trouble is that this realism is hardly a vote winner. Indeed the fact that Reform proposes reducing benefits I would imagine makes Farage a pretty tough sale in a place like Clacton.
Research for the Clacton Place programme shows half all people over 16 in the town are economically inactive and one in five have never had a job of any kind. The latest government labour data also reveals economic inactivity in Clacton at 46.8% - more than twice the 21.7% UK average.
So you would have thought his prospective constituency would want a pro benefits party. Turkeys voting for Christmas or do the turkeys fear being put in a curry even more ?
Perhaps they do fear being made into curry more -
Nigel Farage is set to win in his constituency of Clacton, Essex, according to fresh predictions from pollster Ipsos.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

You've got the cart before the horse.

No. I just view there being a better value in teaching people that they should want to work and find value in doing so instead of forcing it.

But people aren’t taught to value things anymore. It’s sad.

So you would have thought his prospective constituency would want a pro benefits party. Turkeys voting for Christmas or do the turkeys fear being put in a curry even more ?

Perhaps they do fear being made into curry more -

People really, really, hate the Cons right now. They’ll vote for anyone else even if the policy would be bad for them solely put of spite. And I don’t blame them one bit.

And yeah, most people are more concerned about being made into curry and it destroying their way of life and culture. Quality of life might get worse if benefits are slashed but at least it will still be there.

 

[3deadniggers]

Bingo.

I think that my unbridled fedposting should show you how fucking bad the situation is for the disabled.

These people deserve to be shot. They are evil - they are not mistaken. There's no TV crew rushing to hear my story. There's plenty, for someone who was called a n i g g e r - Their intent is to siphon as much for themselves and leave you dead in the street - you are one bad day away from having to go into debt, just to stay alive.

It's better to handle it while you actually, physically can - I'd recommend speaking to anyone in a wheelchair, and just see how many of them would gladly turn it in for a tankette, if they had the opportunity.

What is your story?

The bedroom tax is also bullshit. Why the fuck are people being charged for having a spare room? Spare rooms are an essential part of living as a family. It's a future kids room or it's the room you dump all your junk in like the kids toys or the tools.

Get a crossbow while they're still legal. In a country with very few guns where shit has hit the fan, crossbow > machete and might just save your life. A 100lb draw crossbow can punch clean through a barn door at 50m and inflicts wounds a .50cal would be proud of.

Crossbows take forever to load. A normal bow or a catapult will put someone down just fine. Catapults are especially good as a bag of stones is a lot of ammo and you can fire it fast.

I remember saying people who don’t work should be poor and friends acting like I was a monster. Motherfuckers, take a look at how much you pay in taxes and think harder about what I just said.

I agree with some stipulations. I don't think the disabled should be homeless because they're disabled. I think we as a society should find places they can function and do our best to let them earn a decent wage without cutting their benefits the moment they make 20 quid. The system is designed to keep people on it and it's both too hard to get on it and too easy. Natives have no way of knowing how to game the system while foreigners infiltrate the system and give a rubber stamp to everyone in the same ethnic group.

No. I just view there being a better value in teaching people that they should want to work and find value in doing so instead of forcing it.

Being forced to work is reality. If you don't work to grow your own food someone else has to. People should be taught reality is harsh and they need to be as self sustaining as they can.

People really, really, hate the Cons right now. They’ll vote for anyone else even if the policy would be bad for them solely put of spite. And I don’t blame tjem one bit in doing so.

British politics in a nutshell.

 

[Rusty Metal Skull Gun]

The bedroom tax is also bullshit. Why the fuck are people being charged for having a spare room?

Lol, imagine using the phrase "bedroom tax" unironically.

Why the fuck should I pay for you to have a room you don't need?

 

[Chaos Theorist]

Most of the tax money in the country is spent on pensioners anyway

What are you retards chatting?

 

[3deadniggers]

Lol, imagine using the phrase "bedroom tax" unironically.

Why the fuck should I pay for you to have a room you don't need?

Who says you're paying?

 

[Coelacanth]

Get a crossbow while they're still legal. In a country with very few guns where shit has hit the fan, crossbow > machete and might just save your life. A 100lb draw crossbow can punch clean through a barn door at 50m and inflicts wounds a .50cal would be proud of.

Mah nigga!

A pistol crossbow is going to be worth its weight in gold at some point. Light, simple and actually quite easy to modify if you know how. With the right kind of bolt the damage done to practice targets can make your eyes water.

FYI they wanted to ban crossbows after some mentally ill teenage Sikh decided he wanted to assassinate Queen Elizabeth II with encouragement from his AI girlfriend. The fucker bought a Vlad crossbow with training bolts and actually managed to get into the castle before encountering a guard, shitting his pants and dropping the crossbow. He'd had no training with it and didn't even fire a single round.

As you can imagine the Tories rubbed their hands gleefully upon hearing this and got to work. By the way there's only been a handful of documented crossbow kills out there.

Crossbows take forever to load.

Self loading crossbows shave a good chunk of time off of that and once you've fired them a few times it takes very little effort to cock it. Practice also helps.

 

[EddyRooney]

No. I just view there being a better value in teaching people that they should want to work and find value in doing so instead of forcing it.

But people aren’t taught to value things anymore. It’s sad.

People really, really, hate the Cons right now. They’ll vote for anyone else even if the policy would be bad for them solely put of spite. And I don’t blame them one bit.

And yeah, most people are more concerned about being made into curry and it destroying their way of life and culture. Quality of life might get worse if benefits are slashed but at least it will still be there.

I think you're very optimistic if you think you can educate the sort of people that currently spend much of their life on the dole. That's one of the reasons why many are unemployable. But sadly even for those that are employable, it seems to be a lifestyle choice to game the system.
Can't agree with you more that many people don't seem to value things any more - most importantly, themselves. I appreciate that not every person's sense of self worth is derived from their employment, but earning rather than poncing off others should be seen as highly desirable. Certainly poncing should be seen as shameful rather than being clever as it currently seems to be in much of society.
Being forced to work is only reality in a sensible state. It doesn't seem to be the case currently. Smaller state, less government intervention, lower taxes, more individual freedom ( including being allowed to fail and not being bailed out ) - personal responsibility. Currently the UK is filled with too many drowning men, pulling the rest of us under.