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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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So, just the curved swords over 50cm and not... other swords over 50cm? So nothing is stopping William Wallace from chopping up some Englishmen?
It's legal to have a sword if it's made in a traditional manner (presumably as a sop to traditional smiths and hobbiests) but only if it's straight / Western looking. Swords with a curved edge that look Japanese are banned. As are, iirc, some other Japanese weapons. The reason for this is a surge of Ninja movies and media in the Eighties which some MPs at the time freaked out about because they seem to have believed that Ninja secrets are a real thing and that there is something inherently deadly about anything Ninja-ish. This is a nation where the 80's cartoon Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles was rebranded Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles and any instances of the word ninja in the show were dubbed over. Including the theme song.

Seriously, the British establishment had a full on terror-fit about the idea of Bong kids all learning how to be ninja and going ninja-psycho. There are few things more absurd than the British establishment in the throes of one of their moral panics.
 
I may be just a mere Yank but even I can tell that Keir and Labour are their own worst enemies. All they have to do to win the elections is do nothing and let the Tories blow themselves up, but apparently that's too hard for them.
The reverse is true as well.
 
It's legal to have a sword if it's made in a traditional manner (presumably as a sop to traditional smiths and hobbiests) but only if it's straight / Western looking. Swords with a curved edge that look Japanese are banned. As are, iirc, some other Japanese weapons. The reason for this is a surge of Ninja movies and media in the Eighties which some MPs at the time freaked out about because they seem to have believed that Ninja secrets are a real thing and that there is something inherently deadly about anything Ninja-ish. This is a nation where the 80's cartoon Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles was rebranded Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles and any instances of the word ninja in the show were dubbed over. Including the theme song.

Seriously, the British establishment had a full on terror-fit about the idea of Bong kids all learning how to be ninja and going ninja-psycho. There are few things more absurd than the British establishment in the throes of one of their moral panics.
Oh yeah, a lot of the dumber states in the USA passed laws banning nunchaku around that time for that reason. You know, some of the most impractical weapons on the face of the Earth. I believe NY's ban was overturned in court following the state unable to prove a single incident of these hyper-lethal weapons being used by a criminal to injure anyone.
 
Oh yeah, a lot of the dumber states in the USA passed laws banning nunchaku around that time for that reason. You know, some of the most impractical weapons on the face of the Earth. I believe NY's ban was overturned in court following the state unable to prove a single incident of these hyper-lethal weapons being used by a criminal to injure anyone.
The giant fear of nunchaku is probably the most mind boggling thing on earth. It's two bits of wood on a string. How could anyone get so worked up over it?
I'm certain it's damage potential is less than a police club.
 
The giant fear of nunchaku is probably the most mind boggling thing on earth. It's two bits of wood on a string. How could anyone get so worked up over it?
I'm certain it's damage potential is less than a police club.
To the person on the receiving end sure, but someone just waving around a set thinking they're badass has a high chance of self-injury.
 
Incredibly late on this but there was an update on a case I posted back here.


A Labour candidate was elected to office despite getting fewer votes because their name was read out as the winner. Rather than doing the right thing and stepping aside instead they remained in post for a few months while the petition by the actual winner went through before finally resigning before it was due to be resolved. All sorted right?

Nope, the area then attempted to claim that because the "winner" had resigned the actual winner's petition to be instated should be rejected because the "winner" was no longer in place.

A judge finally slapped this down


The Divisional Court has ruled that a candidate who won the most votes in their ward was, in fact, elected despite a mishap that saw the wrong candidate declared the winner.

In Green v Hannah-Wood & Anor (Re Representation of the People Act 1983) [2023] EWHC 2034 (KB) Mrs Justice Jefford, who heard the case with Mr Justice Soole, found that Julie Green, who stood for the Conservatives, should now be allowed to take up her seat on Nelson Town Council in Lancashire.

This was despite a procedural argument from the council's returning officer that the election petition could not succeed as the wrongly declared candidate, Patricia Hannah-Wood, had later resigned from her position.

In the ruling Mrs Justice Jefford set out the background to the petition:

  1. On 4 May 2023, an election was held for the Town Council of Nelson in Lancashire. As the statement of the Second Respondent, the Returning Officer Ms Rouse, states, the Town Council is a parish council. The election on 4 May included election to represent the Marsden West Ward. The candidates were the Petitioner, Julie Green, standing for the Conversative Party and the First Respondent, Patricia Hannah-Wood, standing for the Labour Party.
  2. It is not in dispute that Ms Green received 242 votes and Ms Hannah-Wood received 177 votes.
  3. However, when the result was declared by the Returning Officer on 5 May 2023, the votes were transposed and it was declared that Ms Hannah-Wood had been elected and not Ms Green.
  4. As Ms Rouse explained in her statement, the error arose because of the way in which the Count Supervisor recorded the votes. On the ballot paper Ms Green's name (Conservative) appeared first and Ms Hannah-Wood's name (Labour) appeared second. The Count Supervisor wrote the figures on a blank sheet of paper recording first the vote for Labour as 177 votes and then the vote for the Conservatives as 242. No names were given and this was in the opposite order from how they appeared on the ballot paper.
  5. The results were then transposed on to the Declaration of Result of Poll which also gave Ms Green's name first and Ms Hannah-Wood's second. When the results were entered in the Declaration of Result of Poll, they were entered in the same order in which they appeared on the piece of paper. As a result, 177 votes was entered against Ms Green's name and 242 against Ms Hannah-Wood's.
  6. The result was declared in accordance with the Declaration of Result of Poll. As the Returning Officer left the podium, the Count Supervisor informed her of the error. Legal advice was taken almost immediately and that advice was that the Returning Officer could not change what she had announced.
Commenting on the mistake at the time, Rouse said: "This was a simple human error which unfortunately wasn't picked up during the additional checks made at the count."

She advised Cllr Green to lodge an election petition.

Meanwhile, Hannah-Wood took up the seat, spending two months in office before resigning. During that time, she attended council meetings, was appointed to committees and cast votes on issues.

After Hannah-Wood's resignation, the returning officer's position changed. She argued that an election petition could not succeed, with her barrister arguing that the legislation on resignations meant the petition should be dismissed and that Green should pay the Returning Officer's legal costs.

Green’s claim was heard on 13 July.

At the Divisional Court, Jefford J noted that the substantive dispute between Green and the returning officer concerned the effect of the resignation.

The petitioner contended that the resignation was immaterial. Hannah-Wood was not lawfully elected or declared elected, and she, therefore, never held any office from which she could resign, Green argued.

However, the returning officer argued that once Hannah-Wood was declared elected, she was elected, whether or not "duly elected", and was, therefore, capable of resigning. Her resignation created a casual vacancy to be filled by further election or co-option. The returning officer said this statutory process was mandatory and must be followed.

Timothy Straker KC, who represented the returning officer, presented a skeleton argument that argued the effect of the resignation was that the petition served no purpose and should be dismissed. That was because, in light of the resignation and the process mandated to follow, it was not open to the court to determine that Green was duly elected with the effect that she was now entitled to take up her seat on the council.

But by the conclusion of the hearing, he had modified the Returning Officer's position to the extent that he accepted that it was open to the court to determine that Hannah-Wood was not duly elected. He maintained, however, that it was not open to it to determine that Green was duly elected.

Jefford J concluded: "In my judgment the argument that a person has been ‘elected’ even if not ‘duly elected’ is no more than semantic and meaningless."

She said the rules provide for the returning officer to declare as elected the person who has received the most votes.

"The giving of notice of that person's name follows from that, as must the ability to accept the office and resign from that office," she noted.

"The declaration and notification of the name of the person elected may represent the end of the proper and lawful process for election but, if the name of the wrong person is declared, there is a breach of the rules and the process has not been properly and lawfully concluded."

A person who did not receive the most votes may be declared to have been elected, but they have not, in fact, been elected and nor have they been duly elected, the judge added.

"If a person has not been duly elected, that person cannot lawfully accept that office or resign from that office."

Mrs Justice Jefford said the Returning Officer's argument placed reliance on the fact that there was statutory provision to save, “so to speak”, acts of a person whose election is subsequently challenged. Paragraph 43 of Schedule 12 to the 1972 Act provides that: "The proceedings of a local authority shall not be invalidated by any vacancy among their number or any defect in the election or qualifications of any member thereof."

The judge said: “It does not seem to me that this provision supports the Returning Officer's argument. If the Returning Officer's contention were right, any act of the person declared elected, and on this hypothesis elected, would be valid unless and until the Election Court declared otherwise and there would be no need for the saving provision. The existence of the provision, in my view, reinforces the point that a person who has not been properly elected is not elected but Parliament has pragmatically ensured that that would not unravel things done by a local authority in the meantime.

“In effect, a person is presumed properly and lawfully elected unless and until their election is questioned and the election court has determined the petition. If they are determined not to have been duly elected, there is an express saving for the proceedings of the local authority. There is no express saving for their acts of acceptance of office and resignation from office.”

Mrs Justice Jefford said Timothy Straker KC had submitted that if the Divisional Court found that the person declared elected was not elected (even if not duly elected), the court would be taking the remarkably bold course of stating that the declaration had no consequence.

“I do not accept that submission or that that would be the consequence of accepting the Petitioner's submissions. It is quite clear that the person who has been declared elected can act as a councillor until it is determined that that person has not been duly elected and that the acts of the local authority will not be vitiated by such a determination. It is the Returning Officer's submission that involves the bold proposition that the person declared elected is to be treated for all purposes as if elected even if later determined not to have been duly elected,” the judge said. [Her emphasis]

Mrs Justice Jefford said The Representation of the People Act 1983 provided the process for questioning a local election. “As set out above, section 139(3) requires that process to be completed even if the person whose election is questioned resigns or purports to resign. In other words, the section presupposes that a person can purport to resign, even if not properly elected, but that the election court will still proceed to determine that that person has not been duly elected and another person has been duly elected.”

The judge added: “Until the election court has determined the petition, the council cannot know whether that person has ever properly held office, was able to resign from that office, and, therefore, whether the obligations under section 89 [of the Local Government Act 1972] are engaged. In my judgment, that must have the effect of suspending the process under section 89(6) until the election court has determined the petition.

“Whilst on the facts of this case it is unnecessary to decide the point, I anticipate that the court would have the necessary jurisdiction to restrain a local authority from proceeding with the further electoral process pending determination of the petition. Whilst it would be unusual for the court to interfere with an election, the juxtaposition of a questioned election and, in effect, questioned resignation are themselves unusual. To restrain an election to fill a casual vacancy pending determination, in accordance with the Representation of the People Act 1983, as to whether there was a casual vacancy to be filled would be, in my judgment, in accordance with the legislation and not an interference with it.”

Mr Justice Soole agreed with Jefford J’s decision. “It would have been a troubling anomaly if the effect of the resignation were to frustrate the true and proper purpose of the petition. However, as my Lady explains, section 139(3) of the Representation of the People Act 1983 both defeats that consequence and provides a complete reconciliation between the two statutes,” he said.

Greg Callus of 5RB acted for Green and was instructed by James Roochove of Astraea Linskills Solicitors.

Roochove said: "This was a really important case. If the Returning Officer's argument had succeeded, it would have caused chaos to the way we challenge election results in the UK.”

He added: “It would have given the person being challenged in Court an effective power of veto over the whole process by resigning. As a result, potentially costing petitioners tens of thousands and, in cases like Julie’s, could see perfectly legitimate election results being ignored and public money being wasted on unnecessary by-elections. Happily, this judgment rules that out.”

Commenting on the case, Cllr Julie Green said: "I was really shocked by this. Clearly there was a mistake here, and I fully appreciate we are all human and mistakes happen. I was told the only way to make this right was to go to Court, so I did.

"Yet when the person who lost the election decided to resign from the seat she never won everything changed. The Returning Officer's London legal team, which included a leading election law KC, then argued the votes cast on 4 May should be ignored and that I should have to withdraw my petition, thus losing money spent to issue it and opening me up to paying her legal fees. I was, to put it mildly, really quite angry and concerned about this."

While a relatively minor case overall had this been ruled the other way it would have allowed a massive amount of bullshit in elections. Another day, another metric ton of crap.
 
Double post but it's Labour fighting about Gaza again.


A Labour MP has been suspended over a Holocaust Memorial Day post suggesting the Israeli action in Gaza is genocide.

An investigation has now been launched over the post on X made by Kate Osamor, the MP for Edmonton in north London, on Friday.


In her message, Ms Osamor wrote: “Tomorrow is Holocaust Memorial Day, an international day to remember the six million Jews murdered during the Holocaust, the millions of other people murdered under Nazi persecution of other groups and more recent genocides in Cambodia, Rwanda, Bosnia and now Gaza.”


Her remarks came on the same day judges at the International Court of Justice in the Hague said they found it “plausible” that Israel has committed acts in Gaza that violate the Genocide Convention during a landmark case brought against them by South Africa.


But her reference to genocide in Gaza drew criticism, with the Board of Deputies of British Jews issuing a statement saying it “unreservedly condemn(s) the attempts by Kate Osamor to link the Holocaust to the current situation in Gaza”.

The Jewish Labour Movement also condemned the “inappropriate and offensive” remarks.

“This week, we’ve been commemorating the murder of six million Jews in the Holocaust, and those who perished in subsequent genocides,” the group said in a statement.


“Sadly Kate Osamor MP used Holocaust Memorial Day to make an inappropriate and offensive comparison to the war in Gaza. Her subsequent non-apology rang hollow.

“These days, we know the Labour Party is better than this. We join others, including her own CLP, in calling on Labour to suspend her while they investigate.”


Following the backlash, but before her suspension, the MP for Edmonton in north London issued an apology “for any offence caused”.

When referencing the situation in Gaza in a subsequent post, she opted to describe it as a “humanitarian disaster” as opposed to a “genocide”.


“Holocaust Memorial Day is a day to remember the 6 million Jews killed in the Holocaust and the genocides that have occurred since,” she posted on X on Friday. “I apologise for any offence caused by my reference to the ongoing humanitarian disaster in Gaza as part of that period of remembrance.”


A Labour source confirmed on Sunday evening that the chief whip has suspended Ms Osamor from the Parliamentary Labour Party pending an investigation.


A spokesperson for Momentum, the left-wing activist group set up while Jeremy Corbyn was leader, offered its support to the suspended MP.

“This outrageous decision further damages Labour’s reputation for anti-racism under Keir Starmer, and should be immediately reversed,” they said. “Just two days ago, the International Court of Justice found that Israel had a plausible case to answer on genocide in regards to its brutal and inhumane war on Gaza.


“But instead of echoing this call to stop a potential genocide, Keir Starmer is attacking those calling it out. We call on all in Labour to resist this shameful and opportunistic attempt to hound another Black woman out of the party.”

UN judges in the Hague said on Friday that Israel must ensure its forces do not commit genocide against Palestinians in Gaza.

The 17-strong panel said it would not throw out the genocide case against Israel and that it must provide basic humanitarian aid in the Gaza Strip – but it stopped short of calling for a ceasefire.

South Africa had asked for the court to order Israel to halt its operation, which has laid waste to much of the Strip and killed more than 26,000 Palestinians, according to Gaza health authorities.


The Israeli military’s attacks on Gaza followed a deadly attack by Hamas on 7 October that killed more than 1,100 people and led to roughly 240 being taken hostage.

The former shadow development secretary Ms Osamor, who served in Jeremy Corbyn’s top team, is the second Labour MP to apologise for remarks about the war in Gaza this week.

Tahir Ali accused Rishi Sunak of having “the blood of thousands of innocent people on his hands” over his response to the conflict.

The comments in the House of Commons prompted the Labour leadership to quickly distance itself and Mr Ali later posted an apology on X, formerly Twitter.


“Earlier at PMQs I asked the Prime Minister about the actions of Israel in Gaza. This is obviously a deeply emotive issue,” he said.


“While I do not resile from my strongly held views on the situation in the Middle East, I would like to apologise for the way in which I described the Prime Minister in my question.”
 
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Christians challenge Church of England document dealing with ‘gender reassignment’ of pupils

Christian parents have urged the Archbishop of Canterbury to withdraw Church of England guidance that says children can change their gender in school.

Parents have written to the Most Rev Justin Welby, asking him to scrap the guidance, “Valuing All God’s Children”, which advises schools on how to create an inclusive environment for “transgender” pupils.

The guidance states: “The protected characteristic of gender reassignment only works one way – not being transgender is not a protected characteristic.

“Consequently schools can make adjustments to meet the needs of a trans pupil without being accused of discriminating against non-trans pupils.”

The letter to Archbishop Welby is signed by Nigel and Sally Rowe, who claimed in 2017 that a Church of England primary school had said their six-year-old son would be deemed transphobic if he did not recognise another boy as a little girl.

The parents, who are being supported by the Christian Legal Centre, brought a legal challenge against the Department for Education after the Government failed to intervene in their case.

Gender-neutral lavatories​

The Government settled the case in 2022 and committed to reviewing transgender policies in schools. Guidance, first produced by Cornwall Council and shared with schools across the country, had advised head teachers to install gender-neutral lavatories and allow pupils to wear clothes “they feel are reflective of their gender identity, rather than their biological sex”.

In December, the Department for Education published a consultation on new national guidance for schools responding to gender-questioning children. The guidance does not use the term transgender to describe children. It states that “under UK law children cannot obtain a Gender Recognition Certificate and therefore cannot change their legal sex”.

It also states that primary school children “should not have different pronouns to their sex-based pronouns used about them”. The guidance refers to an NHS-commissioned report by Dr Hilary Cass, a paediatrician, who has warned that allowing children to socially transition to their preferred gender was “not a neutral act” and could have a “significant” impact on their “psychological functioning”.

In a joint statement, Mr and Mrs Rowe said: “Valuing All God’s Children recognises an ideology that should have no place in primary schools.”

They added: “Children need unambiguous rules based on facts. The vast majority of parents who send their children to a Church of England school would also expect approaches to these issues to align with Christian beliefs that we are born male and female.

“The church’s guidance, however, has for many years now given an official foot in the door to a dangerous ideology that is incompatible with Christian beliefs and must be withdrawn urgently.”

Girls left ‘traumatised’​

Their letter comes after The Telegraph revealed that a Church of England primary school in the South East of England allowed a four-year-old boy to join as a girl. His classmates only discovered his biological sex three years later, leaving a group of seven-year-old girls traumatised, according to a parent of one child at the school.

The parent, who cannot be named, said she agreed with Mr and Mrs Rowe that Archbishop Welby should withdraw the guidance.

She said: “I don’t think there should be transgender pupils in primary schools full stop. I don’t think there’s any need for children to be learning about it in primary school. Let kids be kids.”

A spokesperson for the Church of England said: “Valuing All God’s Children, last updated in 2019, is guidance to help prevent homophobic, transphobic and biphobic bullying in schools. Some pressure groups have misleadingly attempted to spin it as being guidance for schools to help them provide for gender-questioning children. It is not and has never set out to provide such guidance.

“However, now that new draft government guidance on pupils questioning their gender has been published, we will – as we have always said – update Valuing All God’s Children. We have started that process in expectation of the new guidance being finalised and published later this year.”

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This time, the government are really going to do it. There is no going back. They are going to push the button on a new type of trade border coming into Britain from the continent.

In industry, it's being called Brexit 2.0. At least, that is the more polite version of the name for the imposition of a series of new post-Brexit requirements in Britain for food importers.\
It is the final piece of the jigsaw puzzle of the changes necessary after the UK's exit from the EU's customs union and single market.

The most high-profile changes for food and plant product imports from the European Union start to be phased in on Wednesday, after a series of delays.

This will mean significantly extra red tape. In particular, an expensive veterinary certificate will be legally required with consignments of fresh food and plant imports from the EU. These are a requirement from 00:01 GMT on Wednesday, but will not be subject to actual checks at the border for another three months.

The government acknowledges that the extra red tape and checks will increase food prices, pushing up the overall level of prices by 0.2 percentage points over three years.

That means a notable impact on food inflation, but not a new food price shock of the kind seen after Russia's invasion of Ukraine. That increase was, nonetheless, sufficient for the cabinet to further delay the imposition of the checks last year, at a time when food inflation was rising at double-digit rates.

As Tom Southall, a director of the Cold Chain Federation, puts it: "There's never been a good time to do it, which is why it's been delayed five times."

The delays have led to two issues. There has been a lack of reciprocity. UK food and farm exports to the EU have required extra red tape, checks and delays for three years, but their competitors on the continent have enjoyed unfettered access to the UK. The farming industry has expressed concern for UK biosecurity, i.e. defending against the spread of plant and animal diseases, that could prove very costly.

But on Wednesday, four years on from Brexit day, the changes will start.
If things go according to the government's plan, the smooth and phased introduction of these new checks will protect UK biosecurity, have minimal impact on food availability and cost, and even provide an incentive for both the UK and EU to work together to lower these barriers.

Various parts of the industry report a range of interrelated concerns painting a rather different picture: of rising costs, delays, and limited availability - especially of specialist food imports.

The specific question is whether a lack of knowledge of the British changes in individual EU nations and regions will combine with a shortages of vets, and lead to many smaller EU businesses giving up on supplying the UK.
The impact is most likely to be seen on deli counters rather than supermarket shelves. John Keefe, director at Getlink, operators of the Channel Tunnel, says: "The big unknowns are whether there are enough official vets across Europe to sign all the export health certificates. If there's not enough vets there will be a big problem as no certificate means no import."

Most of the detractors fear that the changes will be a costly and problematic irritant to certain specialist suppliers, rather than a wider problem.

The introduction of these checks since December 2020 in the other direction (into the EU from Britain) has led to the need for 852,165 export health certificates issued by British vets, or 1.7 million hours of veterinary time, billed at £100 per hour. That is according to the Chilled Food Association, which has to extract the numbers from the government through a monthly freedom of information request. It told the government that the industry already had to generate £8.5bn in extra sales to cover the £170m cost of GB-to-EU veterinary certification.

The UK imports more food than it exports, so expect these numbers to be exceeded with these new requirements.
Karin Goodburn of the Chilled Food Association also chairs the SPS Certification Working Group. Her big fear is that 24/7, 365-days-a-week food supply chains simply do not work when you have to wait for vets to sign off certificates and then give 24 hours notice of imports. "It could stop those supply chains, or at least press the pause button," she says.

Last week, she wrote to Agriculture Secretary Steve Barclay about wide-ranging concerns about the preparedness of the site in Kent that is meant to host the checks on cross-Channel imports.
There is amazement that the government has not yet set the charge for every consignment to pay for these checks. Clarity on whether the charge will be closer to £10 or £43 per consignment will come in the next few weeks, the government says.

Above all, EU official vets are unlikely to be available through the day, night and weekend to sign off perishable exports to the UK. And all of this is made more complex by the requirement to give one day's pre-notification of imports. That is a large proportion of best before dates on these sorts of goods.

"We've lost a day. That's 20% of the shelf life and the products aren't really saleable," Ms Goodburn says.
Add all of this together and you have a severe stress test of a cross-continental food supply chain designed to deliver safe, highly perishable foodstuffs, just in time. On top of that, much of the more exotic imports - such as cocoa or bananas - comes via shipping into EU hubs such as Rotterdam.

The system of export health checks was really designed for long-distance transport of shelf-stable food products in container ships. There is a risk that the system does not function when applied to what was a frictionless, free-flowing trade of perishable goods. These intricate and elaborate supply chains into the UK have never been tested in this way.

While the phased introduction of controls should limit visible disruption, freight organisations have told MPs about their concerns for significant issues in the autumn, when the EU is also expected to change its border arrangements for individuals. Kent County Council is preparing a reasonable worst-case scenario of 14-hour waits when EU Entry and Exit checks and visa waiver requirements start.

"The combination of both these schemes, coming into effect in 2024, could cause significant delay and disruption to UK-EU supply chains," freight trade body Logistics UK told the Commons European Scrutiny Committee last week.

"Logistics UK members are also concerned that EES (Entry-Exit System) and the BTOM (Border Target Operating Mode - the government's plans for importing goods into Britain) is highly likely to lead to driver shortages to cover European work, which in turn would cause costs to rise with potential inflationary impact."

While these concerns have been expressed before, there is now a critical difference. This is one area of post-Brexit policy where the opposition has been willing openly to challenge the government.

Labour proposes a veterinary agreement with the EU that could lessen the requirement for border checks on health certificates, or even eliminate the need for them entirely. The challenge is that lower friction and disruption will also require closer alignment to EU food safety rules on gene editing and fertilisers. It is unclear where exactly Labour want to land on the trade-off between frictionless food trade and regulatory freedom.

So, in less than 24 hours, an experiment starts. Can the UK's pan-European food supply chains function effectively within a burdensome system of certification and checks? And what if industry is right that maximum disruption will occur this autumn, around the expected time of the general election? The last piece of the Brexit jigsaw could be its most consequential.
 
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Oi, you got a loicense for that Luke 22:36.

Fucking wankers.

None of this shit has anything to do with public safety, this is the political class genuinely worried about getting shanked by a pissed off peasantry. With good fucking reason. Fine by me, fuckers; blunt objects and bare hands it is, then. Sigh, if only. And - I know, I know - you won't do shit. Just venting. But the feel is real.
 
Oi, you got a loicense for that Luke 22:36.

Fucking wankers.

None of this shit has anything to do with public safety, this is the political class genuinely worried about getting shanked by a pissed off peasantry. With good fucking reason. Fine by me, fuckers; blunt objects and bare hands it is, then. Sigh, if only. And - I know, I know - you won't do shit. Just venting. But the feel is real.
Just buy one of those huge dildos made from Chinesium from Ann Summers. Perfectly legal in the UK because they're sex positive AND you can play Saints Row IRL as an improv weapon.
 
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