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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Protester, 59, who demonstrated against Drag Queen Story Hour event for children at Tate Britain is convicted of public order offence - as judge says his comments were 'beyond freedom of expression into hate speech'​

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A man has been found guilty of a public order offence after protesting against a drag queen story-telling event for children at Tate Britain.

Lance O'Connor, of Plaistow in east London, was accused of being 'aggressive and intimidating' towards organisers and attendees - and making a series of comments that were motivated by 'hostility relating to sexual orientation and transgender identity'.

The 59-year-old had denied two counts of using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour with intent to cause harassment, alarm or distress.

District judge Neeta Minhas convicted him at Westminster Magistrates' Court on Monday of the offence - comments which were considered hate speech - against one of the gallery's operations managers, Matthew Rowan.

But she found O'Connor not guilty of the charge in relation to police liaison officer Anderson De Santis, who he also directed several comments at, which made Pc De Santis 'uncomfortable'.

The judge said the defendant's comments to Mr Rowan went 'beyond freedom of expression into hate speech'.

O'Connor will be sentenced at the same court on September 11.

The Tate, in Millbank, central London, had been hosting Drag Queen Story Hour UK on February 11, with tales told by Aida H Dee, who was described on the gallery's website as 'the first drag artist in Europe to read stories to children in a nursery'.

People demonstrating against the event were at the scene, as well as counter-protesters.

The prosecution told Westminster Magistrates' Court on Monday that the defendant, who identified himself as 'Lance', was part of a group of five people who went to Tate Britain to protest against the story-telling session.

The group were refused entry to the event after organisers decided on the day to only admit families with children wanting to attend, the court heard.

O'Connor was accused of being 'aggressive and intimidating' towards Mr Rowan, who was standing outside the event doors, and of displaying the same behaviour to members of the public trying to attend.

Prosecutor Luke Staton said: 'At one stage, when a mother and daughter attempted to enter the event room, the Crown say that the defendant said words to the effect of 'They are indoctrinating children in there. There's a man dressed as a woman and he is defending paedophiles'.

'The defendant, the Crown say, also said to Mr Rowan words to the effect of 'Do you think it's appropriate for a man to wear women's clothing?' and made further comments about grooming and paedophilia.'

Pc De Santis arrived at the scene after being notified of a 'commotion' and heard the defendant make a comment about attendees indoctrinating young children into paedophilia.

And when the officer confronted O'Connor about the comment, the defendant allegedly confirmed that is what he said.

The court heard that O'Connor was arrested the same day for his 'words and behaviour' and denied during police interviews that he said: 'Gay people dressed as women are paedophiles.'

Giving evidence, Mr Rowan, called the defendant's demeanour 'quite aggressive' and said he accused him of crossing the line into 'hate speech'.

Asked how he felt after the interaction, the gallery operations manager said: 'It was quite upsetting.

'To be in my place of work, which should be a safe place for everyone, to then have someone who is aggressive and filming me and trying to get a reaction out of me, it was very uncomfortable.

'As a gay man I felt very uncomfortable with the claims of indoctrination, grooming and talking about paedophilia as they are tropes that have been used against gay people, to my knowledge, growing up.'

He added that it 'hurt' to hear those kinds of accusations because 'those sort of things were said to me in the past in the '80s as I was growing up'.

After O'Connor made the first alleged comment, Mr Rowan told the court: 'At this point I informed Mr O'Connor that he had crossed the line from being rude into hate speech and we weren't going to continue the conversation anymore.'

Pc De Santis told the court he was 'very uncomfortable' and 'alarmed' after hearing O'Connor's comments.

Sundeep Pankhania, defending, said his client 'does not hold any non-trans ideologies' and was protesting that day because of a 'link' he believed existed between Aida H Dee and an alleged convicted paedophile - Darren Moore - whom the court heard is now dead.

The defendant confirmed he was motivated by the storyteller's 'very close links' to Moore.

'He done a eulogy for him on the internet and also he done a GoFundMe page (for his funeral),' O'Connor said when giving evidence.

He added that he wanted to make parents 'aware' of the links and was 'trying to protect the children'.

He denied intending to cause anyone, including Mr Rowan and Pc De Santis, harassment, alarm or distress and denied being 'aggressive'.

O'Connor said: 'My hand has been on my Bible every question I have answered. I don't tell lies.'

'I'm a truthful man,' he added. 'I consider myself an honourable man.'
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NHS staff face pronoun prosecutions as woke guidance says it is 'oppressive' to use the wrong term to refer to trans or non-binary patients​

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NHS workers have been told they are 'privileged' if they do not have to worry what pronouns people will assume they use.

Official guidance also warns staff it is 'oppressive' to use the wrong term to refer to a trans or non-binary patient.

Some hospitals threaten employees with disciplinary action and even prosecution if they fail to use a colleague's correct pronouns.

Others provide a long list of little-known terms used by some people including 'ze', 'sie', 'hir', 'co' and 'ey' – but say that others insist on only being addressed by their name and not referred to in the third person at all.

It comes after The Mail on Sunday revealed that some ambulance trusts are now telling 999 operators they should ask callers for their pronouns rather than risk misgendering them by saying sir or madam.

Lottie Moore, head of Biology Matters at think-tank Policy Exchange, said: 'No one should be expected to say or believe someone is of the opposite sex, nor should they be expected to state their own pronouns.

'Compelled speech has no place within any public institution within a liberal democracy. Identity politics does not belong in healthcare.'

Equality and diversity policies obtained by the Mail under the Freedom of Information Act show that dozens of NHS trusts urge staff to announce their own pronouns when meeting patients for the first time.

Guidance used by both University Hospitals Sussex NHS Foundation Trust and Sheffield Teaching Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust states: 'When someone is referred to with the wrong pronoun, it can make them feel disrespected, invalidated, dismissed, devalued, triggered, alienated, or often, all of these things.

'It is a privilege to not have to worry about which pronoun someone is going to use for you based on how they perceive your gender.

'If you have this privilege, yet fail to respect someone else's gender identity, it is not only disrespectful and hurtful, but also oppressive.'

The Sheffield guide says using gender pronouns 'sets a tone of respect and allyship' and suggests staff include theirs in email signatures 'to help make this a normal part of our working lives'.

It admits it may feel 'awkward' asking at first, but adds: 'It is always more awkward getting it wrong or making a hurtful assumption.'

Mid Cheshire Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust provides a list of dos and don'ts regarding pronouns, including 'Don't say someone's pronouns aren't real (e.g. Mx, Ze, Xe)' and 'Don't say using 'they' as a pronoun isn't grammatically correct'.

United Lincolnshire Hospitals NHS Trust says: 'Some non-binary people prefer to use gender neutral pronouns such as 'one', 'ze', 'sie', 'hir', 'co', 'ey'.

'Some genderqueer people prefer to be referred to alternately as 'he' and 'she' (and/or gender neutral pronouns), and some people prefer to use only their name and not use pronouns at all.'

The Trust says it expects all its employees to use a colleague's new names and pronouns once they have transitioned, adding: 'Failure to do so could lead to disciplinary action under the Trust's disciplinary policy and/or prosecution.'

Similarly the Sussex guide warns: 'Any members of staff who refuse to use the name, pronouns or gender deemed appropriate by another member of staff will be seen as acting in a harassing and/or discriminatory manner and may be subject to disciplinary procedures.'

It also says that in maternity departments, 'pronouns are essential information during handover of care, to allow respectful communication from all members of staff'.

North West Anglia NHS Foundation Trust tells staff not to ask patients: 'What pronoun do you prefer?' It states: 'A person's pronouns and identity are not a preference.'

George Eliot Hospital NHS Trust explains that the lack of a gender neutral pronoun in the English language has been criticised and that 'the dichotomy of 'he and she' in English does not leave room for other gender identities', adding: 'This can be a source of frustration to the transgender and gender queer communities.'
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Clapham stabbing: Two men injured in homophobic attack​


Two men were taken to hospital after being stabbed in a homophobic attack outside a south London nightclub.
The men, in their 20s and 30s, were attacked outside the Two Brewers in Clapham High Street on Sunday night.
The Met Police said it was treating the stabbings as homophobic. The men have since been sent home from hospital.
The Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, said there was "no place for hate in London", adding that he stood with LGBTQI+ Londoners.
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'Unacceptable to live in fear'​

Campaign group Stonewall called on the government to set out a plan to deal with hate crime in the wake of the stabbings.
The organisation said there had been no government hate crime strategy in place for the past three years.
In a series of entries on Twitter, now known as X, the LGBT+ charity said: "We are appalled to hear that two men have been stabbed in an apparent homophobic attack outside a LGBTQ+ venue in Clapham.
"It is unacceptable for LGBTQ+ people to live in fear. We call on the UK Govt to set out its plan to deal with rising hate crime."
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Clapham stabbing: New images released of homophobic attack suspect​



New images have been released of a man suspected of carrying out a homophobic attack on two men outside a south London nightclub.

The two victims, in their 20s and 30s, were attacked with a knife outside the Two Brewers, in Clapham High Street, at about 22:15 BST on Sunday.
The force has said it is treating the incident as homophobic.
The Metropolitan Police has released an image of a man on a number 50 bus in Thornton Heath at 20:30 BST that night.

Det Ch Insp Jivan Saib, who is leading the investigation, called on the public to think about whether they could name or identify the man pictured.
"I would urge people to look at these images - do you know this man? Do you recognise the clothes he is wearing?" he said.
"If you can help identify him then please get in touch."

The images, which are the latest to be released following a previous appeal on Tuesday, show the man wearing a black and grey hooded coat with a red zip and a black facemask, as well as red and black gloves.



The incident happened as the two victims were standing outside the nightclub, when they were approached by a man who attacked them with a knife before running away.

No arrests have been made so far, and police inquiries are ongoing. The men have since been sent home from hospital.

It comes as the Met Police have increased safety measures in the area following the attack, with nightclub staff being escorted to their cars by police in Clapham and Vaxuhall.

PC Hayley Jones, the Met's LGBT+ community liaison officer for Lambeth and Southwark, said a minibus of six officers and a sergeant were also patrolling the area every day this week and officers would be speaking to revellers outside venues to reassure them.


In nearby Clapham Junction, the Clapham Grand nightclub, which holds its own drag and LGBTQIA+ events, said it was stepping up security including enhanced bag searches and increased staffing.

In a post on Instagram, it also said it would be liaising with police on a daily basis ahead of events, adding a communications network across all venues in the area would also be set up to share information and issues.

Dr Mahamed Hashi, Lambeth Council's cabinet member for safer communities, condemned "those who perpetrate violence in our borough, those who carry knives and those who carry out hate crimes against our communities".

He said: "This is a really distressing incident and our thoughts are with the two men who are now recovering from the attack, and their friends and family who will be deeply affected by this violence.

"There is absolutely no tolerance for hatred of this kind in our borough and we will work with the police to ensure that action is taken swiftly to deal with this terrible incident and prevent incidents of this kind in the future."
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TL;DR - Two fags are stabbed outside of a gay club. Usual suspects go mental calling it a hate crime and for someone to be charged. Suspect turns out to be brown/black (probably religion of peace). All part and parcel of living in a big city, right, Khan?

Funny that Khan - a muslim, has now sided with gays over a possible muslim. The fireworks should be fun

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Irish TikToker whose mother smuggled capybara into Northern Ireland from Cambridgeshire sparks row - with three people convicted of breaching new Brexit rules (Archive)​

An Irish TikToker whose mother smuggled a capybara into Northern Ireland from Cambridgeshire has sparked a Brexit border row.

Three people have been convicted of charges relating to smuggling the animal from England to Northern Ireland.

Zena Foord, the mother of TikToker Kyle Thomas, contacted County Antrim pet shop owner Michael Dickinson.

Dickinson then arranged for James Hammond to pick up the animal and transport it over from Cambridgeshire - where they can be kept as pets legally.

The capybara made itself at home in Foord's household - where it soon became an online star in Mr Thomas's videos.

Mr Thomas would film clips of himself and the capybara, which he named Queen Elizabeth, according to The Telegraph.

The videos wracked up a whopping 35million followers on TikTok.

Things took a turn when the animal became unwell last year and needed to be taken to the vets.

The practice alerted the authorities to the fact Foord did not have a vets health certificate and had not declared the imported animal.

The animal died last year.

Foord, Dickinson and Hammond were arrested and all pleaded guilty at Lisburn Magistrate's Court this week. They were given two-year conditional discharged, so will not face further punishment. It does however mean they now have a criminal record.

The capybara sparked a Brexit border row as Dickinson claimed pet traders were being treated 'the same as rapists and paedophiles'.

In order to prevent a hard border with the Republic of Ireland, Northern Ireland continues to follow EU rules on animal health. This results on checks on goods and animals exported from Britain to Northern Ireland.

Barry Gibson, who defended Hammond in court, said that before Brexit the trio would not have committed a crime and blamed their convictions on the changing regulations.
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Protester, 59, who demonstrated against Drag Queen Story Hour event for children at Tate Britain is convicted of public order offence - as judge says his comments were 'beyond freedom of expression into hate speech'
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This Aida H Dee fella is doing a show at the Edinburgh Fringe at the moment, and while I haven't seen anyone protesting the venue yet, people have defaced his posters. I've seen his face ripped out of some of the posters, and others graffiti'd with "This cunt raised money for a paedo's funeral!" I don't know if it'll put off the posh trendy Stockbridge mummies, but it might give them pause.
 
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This Aida H Dee fella is doing a show at the Edinburgh Fringe at the moment, and while I haven't seen anyone protesting the venue yet, people have defaced his posters. I've seen his face ripped out of some of the posters, and others graffiti'd with "This cunt raised money for a paedo's funeral!" I don't know if it'll put off the posh trendy Stockbridge mummies, but it might give them pause.
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I was actually in the vicinity recently but I didn't catch the defaced posters. Wish I'd have known earlier so I could've taken snaps.
 
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I was actually in the vicinity recently but I didn't catch the defaced posters. Wish I'd have known earlier so I could've taken snaps.
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Ah, nice to know there's more Kiwis round here, I'd have grabbed an overpriced pint and got the trophy for meeting one IRL if I'd known. The one I saw was on Shandwick Place, where Social Bite café used to be.
 
More than 300 cameras installed for London's Ultra Low Emission Zone (Ulez) were vandalised or stolen between April and mid-August, the BBC can reveal.
Over four months, the Met received 339 reports of camera cables being damaged, or cameras being stolen or obscured.
The actual number of cameras affected is likely to be even higher as one report can represent multiple cameras.
Unofficial data mapping the location of disabled cameras suggests that almost 500 cameras could have been affected.
It also suggests that the vast majority have been in outer London where the zone is being expanded.
Some 1,900 cameras have been installed in outer London so far.

Despite so much damage being caused, one man has so far been charged by police.
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Now generally I'm of the opinion that everyone in London deserves to be purged in nuclear fire, but not gonna lie this is pretty based. One bit that struck me was this:
"Maybe they think they are Robin Hood characters trying to help others and if they want to risk it that's fair enough. But I think there are better ways to fight the system," he said.
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I'm always curious what better way these people think exists. Especially since public consultation responses were overwhelmingly against the expansion, and several councils tried and failed to fight it in court. Seriously, what the fuck else are people supposed to do when certain politicians are dead set on ramming this shit through regardless?
 
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The overton window will shift regardless. Tony Blair saw to that. Look how unconservative the modern day Tory is. I'm almost longing for Cameron's austerity era.

Labour are no longer the party for the working class because the old working class hold traditional, anti-woke views.

Lib Dems are a meme party who could pose a serious threat to both labour and Tories, if the lib Dems could pick an identity and stick with it. Ironic really.

Reform UK were tarred with the racist brush straight out of the gates, forgetting that they are nothing like the BNP of the early 2000s; a party that wasn't even racist.

Greens are a party for ideological retards whos target audience seems to be 40 year old wine mum's with an art degree. If they were true to the green parties of the 90s, minus the retarded views on nuclear, then they would have a half way decent argument on their hands.

All parties have retarded ideas and the march towards normalising peadophilia continues unabated. The inevitable time when shagging kids is allowed - and make no mistake, the media will be chomping at the bit to tell the nation why this must happen, is coming. If not to appease the Satanist, peaodphiles and degenerates, then they'll do it to appease the Muslims and hordes of third world foreigners.

The only party worth voting for, the one true to itself, that know their members and play to their strengths, is the party that gets my vote every election: the monster raving loony party.
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The BNP were the National Front if they werent retarded
 
Law lecturer at open university claims she was fired for questioning what was taught - and was required to mark papers down if they said that an adult having sex with a child was wrong:
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She claims that 'some treated "minor attraction" as part of the "diverse sexualities and gender identities" Open University law teaching now seeks to "centre"', alleging that the criminal law module featured an assignment in which students had to discuss a relationship between an adult and a minor.
She said that describing the child and adult as each other's 'boyfriends' would yield marks, and that students would lose marks for considering 'whether the adult was grooming the child or committing a sexual offence'.
When she asked for clarification, she says her appeals were 'described as further misconduct'.
These students will become part of the law apparatus in this country. This is absolutely horrific and everyone involved should be named and questioned why they believe and are teaching this
 
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I was actually in the vicinity recently but I didn't catch the defaced posters. Wish I'd have known earlier so I could've taken snaps.
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The poster's gone now but here's the place where it was:
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Failure to say ‘please’ is not rude in top kitchens, tribunal rules​


The fast-paced, blunt-talking style of some professional kitchens is familiar thanks to reality television cookery shows and dramas, such as Boiling Point and The Bear.

Now an employment tribunal ruling has concluded that failing to say “please” to a colleague in a busy kitchen need not be considered rude. Instead, it said, “direct and efficient” communication without additional pleasantries may be “a matter of practicality” in a fast-paced working environment, such as a high-end kitchen.


The ruling came in the case of a chef who claimed she was treated badly in the kitchen of a London restaurant because colleagues didn’t say please to her, and that she was wrongly dismissed.

Bridgette Peters took the restaurant L’Eto to tribunal after losing her job as a chef de partie at the end of her first week.

The London central employment tribunal heard that Peters was dismissed from her job at the Notting Hill restaurant amid concerns about her ability to fit into the team because she “ignored” requests to do tasks until colleagues said please, and complained about their “rudeness”.

On her first day – 23 August 2022 – Peters asked the sous chef Peter Bartczak several times to say “please” when he asked her for things or set her tasks. Each time he explained to her that he was speaking in a normal, professional way for a kitchen.

The tribunal summary said: “It is clear that the claimant is someone who likes to be asked politely and she likes people to use the word ‘please’.

“However, in the respondent’s kitchens a more efficient, direct, and intense communication style is used. It is not seen as rudeness if individuals do not use the word ‘please’ and we accept the respondent’s evidence that this is not specific to L’Eto and is common across the premium hospitality industry.”

During the week, Peters grew frustrated with another chef, Nishma Gurung, who she said “commanded [her] about rudely”.

The tribunal was told Peters refused to put bread on a grill after Gurung had told her to do this. When asked why she hadn’t done as asked, Peters replied that it was because Gurung hadn’t said “please” and was “the rudest person”.

Employment Judge Woodhead said the tribunal accepted that failing to say please was not bad manners. “We accept that in that work environment that was not rudeness, it was a matter of practicality,” he said.

Peters, who is black, tried to sue for direct racial discrimination, claiming she had been treated differently because of her race. However, the tribunal dismissed her case, saying her treatment and dismissal had nothing to do with race.
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So either full on passive aggressive bitch mode or angry black woman reeing about respec.
 
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