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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[frozenrunner]

> defacing a grave with the upsetting truth

 

[DuckSucker]

how would you feel about having a large stone swastika monument with an inscription that reads "in loving memory of adolf hitler and his great cause" in your town?

It doesnt say that though. If adolf hitler was buried in a cemetary in my town, even if he had a larger gravestone, I wouldnt mind. If it was a swaztika and said, "Gas kikes" I probably would be like okay that's too far, if it said "we love him, here's blah blah blah" and went on and on about him and idolized and glamorized him, I would take issue, but it's literally just a stone monument that says "Here lies Karl Marx. Born this day, died this day".

People dont learn about Marxism or believe in it because of a fucking gravestone. It's not a monument to his greatness, it's a memorial to the fact that he was alive at all. You cant erase history, you cant silence or erase opposing viewpoints and only dumb faggots try to.

It's just edgelord tryhard shit from incompetent nobodies who are mad at their own struggles, aimlessly and pointlessly mad, and want to point blame at somebody else for their failings.

I could go to Monticello and deface it and go "THOMAS JEFFERSON WAS A SLAVE OWNING RACIST AND SHITTY PERSON HE DIDNT EVEN THINK BLACKS AND WOMEN WERE PEOPLE." I could call it a symbol of oppression and claim it an ongoing monument to white superiority and how it should be torn down, but what would it do? Even if it was torn down, that doesnt change shit. It's so fucking stupid.

 

[Maxliam]

It doesnt say that though. If adolf hitler was buried in a cemetary in my town, even if he had a larger gravestone, I wouldnt mind. If it was a swaztika and said, "Gas kikes" I probably would be like okay that's too far, if it said "we love him, here's blah blah blah" and went on and on about him and idolized and glamorized him, I would take issue, but it's literally just a stone monument that says "Here lies Karl Marx. Born this day, died this day".

People dont learn about Marxism or believe in it because of a fucking gravestone. It's not a monument to his greatness, it's a memorial to the fact that he was alive at all. You cant erase history, you cant silence or erase opposing viewpoints and only dumb faggots try to.

Yeah that's a lot of fag talk there, buddy. Fuck Marx, Fuck Hitler, Fuck Stalin, Fuck Lenin, Fuck Pol Pot, and fuck all the other assholes whose corpses deserve to be bitch slapped a lot given how much pain, suffering, and human misery those pieces of shit did.

Marx killed millions with his idiotic beliefs. He deserves to be fed to pigs.

 

[HG 400]

Yeah that's a lot of fag talk there, buddy. Fuck Marx, Fuck Hitler, Fuck Stalin, Fuck Lenin, Fuck Pol Pot, and fuck all the other assholes whose corpses deserve to be bitch slapped a lot given how much pain, suffering, and human misery those pieces of shit did.

Marx killed millions with his idiotic beliefs. He deserves to be fed to pigs.

Marx was just a dialectic material philosopher. Holding him responsible for Lenin or Mao is like holding Rousseau responsible for Hitler.

 

[Ahriman]

stop lying, it has classic marxist propaganda slogans all over it
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WORKERS OF ALL LANDS UNITE!
THE PHILOSOPHERS HAVE ONLY INTERPRETED THE WORLD IN VARIOUS WAYS - THE POINT, HOWEVER, IS TO CHANGE IT!

this is the equivalent of your hypothetical hitler grave having an inscription like "EIN VOLK, EIN REICH, EIN FÜHRER! SIEG HEIL!"

My thoughts exactly. Everyone filling their mouths with "b-bb-but defacing a tomb is w-wrong guise" is a two-faced idiot.

 

[Voltaire]

As a fellow intellectual I find this act by mentally enfeebled peasants to be most troubling about the state of our culture.

 

[Maggots on a Train v2]

>"I am just surprised that somebody in 2019 feels they need to [go] and do something like that."
It couldn't possibly have anything to do with the way every media acolyte in the anglosphere has gone full Marxist commietard since 2015, the year of the wokening. It couldn't even remotely be because of their nonstop effort to libel and slander everyone to the right of this
as Nazis. There's just no way anybody could get completely fucking sick of it.

 

[frozenrunner]

>"I am just surprised that somebody in 2019 feels they need to [go] and do something like that."
It couldn't possibly have anything to do with the way every media acolyte in the anglosphere has gone full Marxist commietard since 2015, the year of the wokening. It couldn't even remotely be because of their nonstop effort to libel and slander everyone to the right of this
View attachment 667593 as Nazis. There's just no way anybody could get completely fucking sick of it.

Or the way they've put this behavior into play by doing it themselves to monuments they don't like.

"It's okay when we do it."

This is bullshit, though. You want to strike back against Marxism? Take the time you would have destroyed a mere symbol to explain to everyone listening why Marxism is a worthless, murderous ideology. Because not everyone knows.

EDIT: Basically, do the hard work of forcing actual change and make Marx's grave into the eternal symbol of failure it should be.

 

[Jeff Heaney]

That's just gonna cause his bones to get into the water supply and then everyone is drinking communism.

It's exactly as he always planned.

 

[Cosmos]

Kind of hard to forget the man whose philosophy literally resulted in the death of millions of people and the destruction of countless countries the world over.

EDIT: I was mistaken. That wasn't true Marxism. Four legs good, two legs bad.

To be fair, it’s not like Marx had a crystal ball that told him Communism would result in so much death and destruction. He lived in a time period where workers’ rights were nonexistent. Have you ever read The Jungle by Upton Sinclair? People working in meat packing factories would literally lose body parts to machinery and were expected to work through it.

 

[ICametoLurk]

>marx

>writes book

>instantly kills 66,000,000

lol based

 

[Maxliam]

Marx was just a dialectic material philosopher. Holding him responsible for Lenin or Mao is like holding Rousseau responsible for Hitler.

Marx is more directly responsbile since his shit helped kick off that crap with Lenin. Without it, we would have never had to have dealt with communism. So yeah, I blame him for being a faggot.

To be fair, it’s not like Marx had a crystal ball that told him Communism would result in so much death and destruction. He lived in a time period where workers’ rights were nonexistent. Have you ever read The Jungle by Upton Sinclair? People working in meat packing factories would literally lose body parts to machinery and were expected to work through it.

Yeah that sucked but under Lenin and Stalin and Mao, millions were killed because they were viewed as property of the state. Communism blows and is worse than any other system.

Thanks to him basically shitposting the world with his crappy dumb philosophy, millions died horrible deaths. Communism killed many times more people than Fascism and Capitalism have ever done.

 

[HG 400]

Marx is more directly responsbile since his shit helped kick off that crap with Lenin. Without it, we would have never had to have dealt with communism. So yeah, I blame him for being a faggot.

"W..w..words are violence, guys!"

 

[GreenJacket]

Marx was just a dialectic material philosopher. Holding him responsible for Lenin or Mao is like holding Rousseau responsible for Hitler.

Marx was a NEET who mooched off his family and friends. If he were alive today, he would have his own thread.

 

[Ahriman]

Marx was just a dialectic material philosopher. Holding him responsible for Lenin or Mao is like holding Rousseau responsible for Hitler.

To be fair, it’s not like Marx had a crystal ball that told him Communism would result in so much death and destruction. He lived in a time period where workers’ rights were nonexistent. Have you ever read The Jungle by Upton Sinclair? People working in meat packing factories would literally lose body parts to machinery and were expected to work through it.

"W..w..words are violence, guys!"

Communism and its roots can be traced back to the XVII century in France, where people like François-Noël Babeuf (a real proto-communist) attempted a coup called "The Conspiracy Of The Equals":

"The Conspiracy of the Equals (French: Conjuration des Égaux) of May 1796 was a failed coup de main during the French Revolution. It was led by François-Noël Babeuf, who wanted to overthrow the Directory and replace it with an egalitarian and proto-socialist republic, inspired by Jacobin ideals."

He (Babeuf) even went as far as to defend the Reign Of Terror and murderous politicians like Robespierre, after his execution. So Marx is to Robespierre what Hitler is to Madison Grant and his book, "The Passing Of The Great Race". Marx, just like the French revolutionary figures he used to read about (while he did nothing but live off his family, never working a day in his life), is just as reprehensible as they were - the French "Reign of Terror" was responsible for over 16.000 deaths all over France.

Additionally, he was well aware of the effects caused by the proletariat dictatorship, a violent but necessary transition towards communism because well, he's read about it trying to get off the ground in France a century ago. So yeah, it's fair to hold him accountable for what he suggested in his writings.

As much as they are historical figures one has to study and understand their surroundings to fully grasp their ideas, the "ripple effect" caused by their ideology throughout the centuries is not to be underestimated.

Besides, you wouldn't be singing the same song if this was someone messing up Madison Grant's or Mussolini's grave.

 

[AF 802]

What I'll never understand in the first place is why, out of all the things to give a fuck about, people choose to care about something as dead and useless as communism in the late 2010's? Leave that shit with the Soviet Union and worry about China buying up all the tech companies.

 

[Ahriman]

What I'll never understand in the first place is why, out of all the things to give a fuck about, people choose to care about something as dead and useless as communism in the late 2010's? Leave that shit with the Soviet Union and worry about China buying up all the tech companies.

I remember reading something about people basically holding on to it as some sort of "political fetish". It doesn't work in reality, but people just fantasize constantly.

 

[HG 400]

Besides, you wouldn't be singing the same song if this was someone messing up Madison Grant's or Mussolini's grave.

Yes I would. Don't deface historical monuments because a dead guy said something you don't like. That's retarded.

 

[Maxliam]

"W..w..words are violence, guys!"

Except the words of Marx led to over 100 milion deaths from communist regimes. The nazis were rank amateurs compared to how effective the commies were at killing people.

I remember reading something about people basically holding on to it as some sort of "political fetish". It doesn't work in reality, but people just fantasize constantly.

That and commies these days say "It wasn't real communism!!!" like that matters.

 

[Ahriman]

Yes I would. Don't deface historical monuments because a dead guy said something you don't like. That's retarded.

Personally I wouldn't deface his grave, I'd just put him far far away, in an unmarked grave. Where no one can find him. They deserve no recognition other than historical significance.