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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Clem Fandango said:
The article refers to this dullard's "legal team". A whole team! These people need to be named a and shamed (even if shame is a foreign concept to lawyers).
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Naming and shaming them does nothing. There were a bunch of legal offices whose employees were caught telling "refugees" what lies would better aid their applications and that story died the same week it came out.
 
Morethanabitfoolish said:
Naming and shaming them does nothing. There were a bunch of legal offices whose employees were caught telling "refugees" what lies would better aid their applications and that story died the same week it came out.
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That's because the people who did it and the people who would prosecute (as well as the people who would judge it) it all hang out at the same bars. Probably worked in the same chambers. The legal system in this country is so incestuous that it makes pakistan look positively exogamous.
 
Clem Fandango said:
The article refers to this dullard's "legal team". A whole team! These people need to be named a and shamed (even if shame is a foreign concept to lawyers).
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They need to be done for treason. This should be one of the key pillars of any ‘Britain First’ framework.

The only issue is that when all the politicians, civil servants, lawyers, judges, police commissioners and so on know that they’ll swing if a particular party gets in, then they’re going to do even more to stop them getting in. So you end up back to ‘we need total revolution’ type thinking, which isn’t helpful.
 
teriyakiburns said:
Unfortunately, this isn't a safe assumption. It's common, because speedos have a bit of slop in them, but not every local authority sets the error range so widely. There's a bunch of cameras on the A62 that have almost no breathing room on them at all. You go one mile over, even if your speedo says you're under, and you get a ticket. One spot has three of them within a couple of miles of one another. National Highways isn't consisting on the motorways, either.
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Good info. I'll look into that.

Most of my miles are in the SE of England, but I frequently head up and down the country.
79mph on a satnav (or 81mph on the car's clock) and I've never been done for it.

In the past twenty years I've had a ticket for pushing the pedal down on the M25. I've had two for riding sportbikes too fast through suburban routes (JDM bikes with KPH-MPH converters are hard to read).

I'll believe you when I next drive between Manchester and Leeds. I'll stay safe
But you can definitely do the M25 and most of the South East at 79mph Even those average speed cameras.

A good driver will accelerate through the fast lane and then tuck back in to the slower lanes. Get past, move over.
Just don't get caught boosting past a speed trap.
 
UselessRubberKeyboard said:
Milk & beans? It’s a forgotten pass-by on the train down to London, a place that time and sanity forgot. Nothing ever happens there.

Like Stevenage. Or Swindon.
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I'll have to look into what's good around the train station then. I want to see more of this country before it turns into no go zones. MK was pretty up market as a kid but I have no idea how. Has to be a play I can buy over priced toy soldiers and few a museum right?
 
Kofi Drinka said:
How is Milton Keynes these days?
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I had to go there a year ago, it's horrible. So many browns and muslims. Like over half the people I saw there were brown, entire supermarket lines filled with people in burka's. Only half way to the new cencus and it's already out of date.

El Gordo Ramsay Sex Dwarf said:
There's a nice model show outside Milton Keynes in Hanslope on the 19th that'll have some nice stuff for sale. Run by the guy who did the props for Blakes 7 and Doctor Who.

And Milton Keynes also has the National Film and Sci-Fi Museum and a really good retro arcade next door.
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I did not know of that, I prefer to keep my stay in cities quick.
 
UselessRubberKeyboard said:
As for Joey Barton
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Joey comes from a real fucked up background and his brother was a nasty piece of work, got done for a racially motivated axe murder way back in the day. He was a bit of a violent shithouse in his playing career and allegedly beat his wife. I think he has something wrong with him where he cannot keep his impulses under control more than anything. i am surprised he hasn't spent more time in prison to be honest.
 
Some good old coldwar bullshit for us today, I'd make a thread post about this but god knows we don't need witless New Worlders making fun of us for not sinking them: Those sneaky fucking russians are at it again:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cre13qn9z7do/https://archive.is/wdS2g
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File photo of frigate HMS St Albans deployed to track the Russian submarine

Three Russian submarines conducted a "covert" operation over cables and pipelines in waters north of the UK, Defence Secretary John Healey said.

A British warship and aircraft were deployed to deter the "malign" activity by Moscow and there was "no evidence" of any damage to UK infrastructure in the Atlantic, he added.

Addressing Russian President Vladimir Putin directly, Healey said: "We see you. We see your activity over our cables and our pipelines, and you should know that any attempt to damage them will not be tolerated and will have serious consequences".

The UK is dependent on its undersea cables and pipelines for its data and energy.

There are around 60 undersea cables which come ashore at several parts along the UK coastline, particularly around East Anglia and South West England.

More than 90% of the UK's day-to-day internet traffic travels via these undersea cables.

Healey told a Downing Street press conference on Thursday that Russia had sent an Akula class submarine as a diversionary tactic while two of its Guggi spy submarines carried out the surveillance of these cables.

Healey said when the first Akula submarine was monitored it soon left UK waters and went back to Russia, while the two Gugi vessels remained.

The Royal Navy deployed a Type 23 frigate HMS St Albans, RFA Tidespring and Merlin helicopters to track all three of the Russian submarines.

Other nations were involved in tracking the Russian activity - though Healey only mentioned Norway by name.

"Our armed forces left [Russia] in no doubt that they were being monitored, that their movements were not covert, as President Putin planned, and that their attempted secret operation had been exposed," Healey said.

"We watched them, we were able to track them, we dropped sonar buoys to demonstrate to them that we were monitoring every hour of their operation."

Healey also claimed that Putin had sought to capitalise on the world being "distracted" by war in the Middle East and that it was Russia that posed the "primary threat to UK security".

Watch: 'We see you', Healey warns Putin
He said Moscow still "poses a threat" but expressed confidence the UK could track and monitor future activity while continuing to expose "any covert operations that Putin wants to mount that may threaten our vital interests".

Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer said he was "determined to protect the British people from paying the price for Putin's aggression in their household bills," adding that this was why the UK would not "shy away from taking action and exposing Russia's destabilising activity that seeks to test our resolve."
Underwater cables and pipelines are a major piece of critical infrastructure worldwide.

More than 600 undersea cables connect the world by 870,000 miles (1.4m km) carrying electricity and information across oceans and seas, coming ashore often at discreet locations.

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The UK also relies on a network of underwater gas pipelines, primarily in the North Sea, which provides essential energy from the UK and Norwegian Continental Shelves.

This includes the 724 mile-long (1,166km) Langeled pipeline between Norway and the UK.

About 77% of the UK's gas imports come from Norway through pipelines lying under the North Sea.

BBC InDepth revealed in 2025 that Russia was waging "hybrid warfare" against the UK and western Europe, with the aim of punishing or deterring Western nations from continuing their military support of Ukraine.

"Hybrid warfare" is when a hostile state carries out an anonymous, deniable attack, usually in highly suspicious circumstances, but stops short of being an attributable act of war.

The Russian embassy has previously said it was "not interested in British underwater communications."

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I am of course like every other redblooded Englishman all in on team "should have fucking sank them", but I know we've got a few dirty rotten vatnik sympathizers in here though, so I do wonder what their thoughts might be on Putin messing with our wi-fi.
 
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