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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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teriyakiburns said:
Great dipped in orange juice.
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I'll uh, take your word for it... nutcase.
Tiffin (melted syrup and crushed biscuits and choc on top) made with orange juice is absolutely divine. I think you add a splash in the melting stage but I don't recall Mama Interpol's recipe all that well.

I'm reposting the Streeting texts (and adding archive links to my last post) because I feel like this cannot be stated enough. The Labour government arrested and charged people, including the elderly and a deaf priest, with terrorism, for the same things Streeting is saying about Israel. He also might be Noticing that the muslim vote is not necessarily pro Labour. Other Ministers have been warned to not publish texts with Mandelson. Emphasis is mine.
[28/03/2025, 11:36:06] Wes Streeting: I fear we're in big trouble here - and I am toast at the next election. We just lost our safest ward in Redbridge (51% Muslim, Ilford S) to a Gaza independent. At this rate I don't think we'll hold either of the two Ilford seats.

[28/03/2025, 11:39:54] Wes Streeting: There isn't a clear answer to the question: why Labour?

[28/03/2025, 11:48:44] Lord Mandelson: The government doesn't have an economic philosophy which is then followed through in a programme of policies.

[28/03/2025, 11:49:15] Wes Streeting: No growth strategy at all

[24/07/2025, 23:00:29] Wes Streeting: Am sure this will come up in coming days, so wanted to check in with you on recognition of Palestine and the domestic politics of it.

Keir's statement today was excellent, but Macron's statement tonight ups the ante.

Morally and politically, I think we need to join France.

Morally, because Israel is committing war crimes before our eyes. Their government talks the language of ethnic cleansing and I have met with our own medics out there who describe the most chilling and distressing scenes of calculated brutality against women and children.

Politically, a Commons vote will be engineered in September on recognition and we will lose it if we're not ahead of it. There are no circumstances in which people like me or Shabana could abstain or vote against, for example. Conference will be a sea of Palestinian flags and the moderates will be waving them.

We need to be leading the charge on this. The alternative is being dragged there with enormous damage to Keir, the govt and the party.

I've never been a shrinking violent [sic?] on Israel. I've supported LFI for over 20 years. Our sister party, Haaretz, and progressives are clear about what's being done in their name and they oppose it.

I appreciate these things are always more complicated than they appear to those of us who aren't up close as you are and I also appreciate how much Keir and David are giving to this personally.

But it is what it is. We need to lead, not follow.

[24/07/2025, 23:11:47] Lord Mandelson: I can see all this but I am worried that such a gesture now could blow a 2 SS out of the water if Israel decided that unilateral recognition justified further WB annexation which the US would be powerless to stop or reverse. That would be the end of it.

So I think we need to employ practical means to get a 2SS, not quickly I grant but realistically. The PA with reform and new leadership can advance this with Arab/US/European support. The alternative is a further deadlocked death spiral on an even greater scale than now.

[24/07/2025, 23:12:10] Wes Streeting: Israel is doing it anyway.

[24/07/2025, 23:12:39] Wes Streeting: This is rogue state behaviour. Let them pay the price as pariahs with sanctions applied to the state, not just a few ministers.
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Seconding dunking ginger nuts in orange juice. Suspend your disbelief and give it a punt.

And border biscuits are god tier. Also the M&S sultana/ raisin ones? They're like a thin, light buttery shortbread, but not crumbly, with big juicy raisins in.
 
Otterly said:
The rumours on the African side during the thread we had seemed to say that his dad was a member of the RPF ‘killing machines’ militia and was a spy. I suspect the truth will be something like he was allowed here or actively brought here, to make Rwanda safer at the detriment of the safety of the UK. There was a big ‘truth and reconciliation’ push that was an early version of ‘say sorry to the people whose family you gang raped and hacked to death with machetes and everything’s fine!’ Sort of restorative justice bullshit that they keep trying to push everywhere. Starmer may have been involved in bringing them here. Why would be very interesting to know.
Remember that there are multiple genocidaires living openly in the UK having been allowed here and never having seen the inside of a court.
Remember that these people, both the initial wave of killings and the RPF reprisals that followed, were of inhuman savagery.
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I said it at the time in the other thread. Don’t have time to dig through posts and screen shot, apologies. I also want it looking into if Rwandan Ambassador in Angola Dr Charles Rudakabana is really the grandfather. The guardian seemed to think so. That makes it even stink further for me. Why would you come here to be on benefits when you are that well connected to the current regime. Also the mother’s family being well connected and photographed with Wellars Gasamagera (Kagames right hand man) and Kagame himself is even fishier.
 
@teriyakiburns This is crazy because I was chatting randomly with a Liverpudlian and he brought up these biscuits. I think I need to try out these bad boys. His children asked about the medicinal qualities of sweets, and the historian in me told them.

@Kane Lives Most likely yes, the problem is, the party is directly linked to noncery. This means the Redwall vote is gone forever, and the Northerners hate pedos. The similarities between Stalin and Starmer are actually quite shocking; he used a very similar tactic to WW2. Stalin was then murdered by his doctors, after having a stroke as he was making a move to kill the jews.

You cannot run a party with an "or else" policy. They never work out, especially in politics. Starmer keeps going on about a mandate. I genuinely think he is thinking he can spin up a "mandate from heaven". He is getting it deeply wrong, though. The MP is given the mandate, and the leader is chosen. It's feeling very late 40s Stalin Russia at the moment, though. His international ties are shot, though. He was already not really liked by the European leaders, but he is viewed as a toxic asset now, so his circle of influence is even smaller.
 
UselessRubberKeyboard said:
I suspect Reform are being ‘reformed’ into the new Tories and when they’re ready, they’ll be in at the next election or two to carry on as more of the same bullshit. Nothing will change.
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"Being". Lol.

Anyway, it's going to be really confusing this time when Nigel calls his half-brown party BNP as he's halfway out the door.
 
Boy, 12, stabbed by 'boy', 15


Leo was making his way home from his school in Yardley Wood when he was stabbed in the stomach on 21 January 2025
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While we are waiting, we can remind readers that Birmingham Crown Court has previously heard Leo's killer "enjoyed hurting people" and had a history of targeting vulnerable victims.

Det Insp Joe Davenport said the teenager would carry out violence for violence's sake.

"He enjoyed hurting people and he enjoyed watching the chaos that unfolded," he told the court.

In the most serious attack on the women he targeted before Leo, he beat an elderly woman with her own walking stick and then threw her in a river.

Davenport said the killer had targeted people "he knew he could beat and would easily overpower".
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No arrest.

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Watch the video, he doesn't sound 15.

I think all of these 'child' murderers should undergo an age verification test before sentencing AND their names should be released upon a guilty verdict.
 
PandaChai said:
Oh I have one of those, only it tends to wear my ex-husband's face as additional torment. I wonder if they're both from the same circle of Hell.
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Oh, this one is a nice looking woman who either watches, tries to guess the future, or on the rare occasion, rips my face off.

I'm both annoyed but also pleased Starmer is sticking around as hard as possible. Annoyed because I won't trust the lotto numbers in my dreams because he didn't brain himself live on BBC. Pleased because any replacement from Labour is just as dogshit, and by circling the wagons on the worst scandal in history, the cinder block tied to Starmer's leg is now tied to Labour's too as it comes speeding down to the bottom of the ocean to drag them under. Hell, I now hear openly in my area people saying Starmer is a wrongun, mentions of the Ukrainian boys also keeps coming up too.
 
evrae said:
Oh, this one is a nice looking woman who either watches, tries to guess the future, or on the rare occasion, rips my face off.

I'm both annoyed but also pleased Starmer is sticking around as hard as possible. Annoyed because I won't trust the lotto numbers in my dreams because he didn't brain himself live on BBC. Pleased because any replacement from Labour is just as dogshit, and by circling the wagons on the worst scandal in history, the cinder block tied to Starmer's leg is now tied to Labour's too as it comes speeding down to the bottom of the ocean to drag them under. Hell, I now hear openly in my area people saying Starmer is a wrongun, mentions of the Ukrainian boys also keeps coming up too.
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Even an American Democrat (Ro Khanna) has said that Mandelson will bring the Government down as well as the Royal Family.

Starmer wants to stay, he's bullied his team into conformity, but there are many backbenchers who are far from happy with what's happened. They could still prove to be his stumbling block.

Reform UK have opened up an eight point gap and we are now officially on a General Election war-footing, knowing that the collapse will come at some point.

There's worse to come for Starmer - his possible mention in the Epstein files (maybe) in addition to Labour losing their traditional safe seat of Gorton & Denton. Starmer is fast turning into Red Boris.
 
Made In Wales said:
Even an American Democrat (Ro Khanna) has said that Mandelson will bring the Government down as well as the Royal Family.

Starmer wants to stay, he's bullied his team into conformity, but there are many backbenchers who are far from happy with what's happened. They could still prove to be his stumbling block.

Reform UK have opened up an eight point gap and we are now officially on a General Election war-footing, knowing that the collapse will come at some point.

There's worse to come for Starmer - his possible mention in the Epstein files (maybe) in addition to Labour losing their traditional safe seat of Gorton & Denton. Starmer is fast turning into Red Boris.
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The Royals too? I'd be surprised if this takes them down, then again Andrew and Ali are all over the files too.
I'm pretty sure I was seeing plenty of 10+ point gaps and even Labour slipping into 4th looming on 5th.

I should get around to emailing my MP, stir the pot a little.
 
Hunt on for teen after two school boys stabbed

An urgent search is taking place for a teenager suspected of stabbing two boys who were injured at a school in north-west London, the Met Police has said.
Officers were called to Kingsbury High School at about 12:40 GMT following reports a 13-year-old boy had been stabbed.
Police said they were later made aware that a second victim, a 12-year-old boy, had also been stabbed at the scene.
Both boys were taken to hospital by the London Ambulance Service, with one taken to a major trauma centre as a priority.
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Odds on the 'teen' wearing a coat with a hood up?
 
Shady business by the Ministry of Justice to limit the public's access to court proceedings (Times archive):
MoJ orders deletion of UK’s largest court reporting archive

The Ministry of Justice is ordering the deletion of a large archive of court records, raising open justice concerns.

Courtsdesk, a data analysis company that supports media and campaigners in monitoring court records, has been ordered by the government to delete its archive, which provides a crucial tool for journalists covering the justice system. The project was approved by the lord chancellor in 2021 to explore how a “national digital news feed of listings and registers can improve coverage of the courts by the news media” by opening up magistrate court records.

According to Courtsdesk, the platform has since been used by more than 1,500 journalists from 39 media organisations and the data provided has highlighted serious failures in the courts system. It said journalists were given no advance notice of 1.6 million criminal hearings, the number of court cases listed was accurate on just 4.2 per cent of sitting days and half a million weekend cases were heard with no notification to the press. Two-thirds of all courts routinely heard cases that the media was not told about in advance. Seventeen courts that sent outcome records had not once published an advance listing in the entire period, the company’s research found.

In November, HM Courts and Tribunal Service (HMCTS) issued the company a cessation notice, citing what it called “unauthorised sharing” of court data, on the basis of a test feature, claiming this was a “data protection issue.” When the company wrote to the department asking for the matter to be referred to the Information Commissioner’s Office, which regulates data protection, it says no referral was made.

Chris Philp, the former justice minister who approved the pilot and now shadow home secretary, wrote to Sarah Sackman, the courts minister, demanding the decision be reversed.
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