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What are you opinions on GamerGate and Brianna Wu / John Flynt?

  • I am of no opinion towards either.

    Votes: 104 8.6%

  • I am neutral on GamerGate, but think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votes: 631 52.1%

  • I am neutral on GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votes: 9 0.7%

  • I am ANTI-GamerGate, but still think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votes: 112 9.2%

  • I am ANTI-GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votes: 37 3.1%

  • I am PRO-GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votes: 309 25.5%

  • I am PRO-GamerGate, but still think that and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votes: 9 0.7%
  • Total voters
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Cynical said:
Holy fuck, Wu outright admits to being a cultural hegemonist:

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https://archive.is/rGeSP
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So you're not a software developer, you're an ineffective cultural overseer.

I want someone to ask Wu why she's the only one qualified to hold this made-up position, but we all know what she's going to say.
 
Latest comment on the Tournament of Rapists page:

http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/155549/Tournament-of-Rapists

Geth N Aug 30, 2015 5:57 pm CST

In the interests of not censoring expression that is not illegal and not allowing self appointed moral guardians to bully companies into making decisions based on the uninformed outrage of a vocal minority, I strongly urge DriveThruGames not to bow down to this nonsense.

Here's a link to what I mean:

https://archive.is/rGeSP
 

Made by John "Full-Time Internet Troll" Flynt
Games: 1*
Internet comments: 100,000+

* "made" in Johnspeak is someone else doing it but taking credit for it himself

>"As a woman..."
 
A small highlight reel of Geth telling off Wu's outrage army:


So the next game we gonna see here is F.A.T.A.L., cause, "it's a game" excuse.
Disgusting.
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Geth N Aug 30, 2015 6:25 pm CST

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If so, so be it. It's disgusting, but it doesn't violate the law, and just because something is "disgusting" doesn't make it a crime. Vomit is disgusting, but trying to ban that is beyond foolish.
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André W Aug 30, 2015 6:16 pm CST



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In most of Europe such a product is illegal, you better remove such a product quickly before someone really chooses the legal way to get it removed.
Rape is a crime in nearly all nations and there is no way defending a game it with the right of free speech.
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Geth N Aug 30, 2015 6:23 pm CST

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Then if you're from Europe, adhere to the laws of your country and don't purchase a product your country does not allow within it's borders.





I heard all the controversy and decided to check it out for myself. I've never heard of this site but if you keep standing up for free speech in art you have a new customer for life!
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Jared R Aug 30, 2015 6:17 pm CST

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I'm very happy that you felt free enough to give these guys $4, and One Book Shelf will get their cut of $4.

On the other hand, they will be missing out of everything I buy from Monte Cook games, Green Ronin, Fantasy Flight, Wizards of the Coast, Evil Hat, Catalyst, Goodman Games, and probably a whole bunch of others that aren't popping into mind.

This is not, at all, about free speech. No one is calling for government regulation of the product. Nobody is saying this guy can't find some other venue to sell from. I am, myself, saying that I cannot in good conscience buy from this site while this product is still up.

If it eases your mind, there is plenty of other material I disagree with and likely wouldn't enjoy in the site that I just don't buy. But this is one of those things that isn't just "against my sensibilities" but that also has no redeeming qualities and makes gaming, in general, look bad.

There is nothing that abridges free speech in...See more
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Geth N Aug 30, 2015 6:29 pm CST

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Well, this particular product is not of interest to me, but I've seen others that are interesting, so where they might lose your patronage, they will pick up others, but if you want to vote with your pocketbook based on your principles, I admire that.




Oliver L Aug 30, 2015 3:01 pm CST

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Title is unacceptable, no matter the contents.
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Geth N Aug 30, 2015 6:32 pm CST

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That's like being offended over Vladimir Nabokov's "Lolita".
 
Cynical said:
A small highlight reel of Geth telling off Wu's outrage army:


So the next game we gonna see here is F.A.T.A.L., cause, "it's a game" excuse.
Disgusting.
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Geth N Aug 30, 2015 6:25 pm CST

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If so, so be it. It's disgusting, but it doesn't violate the law, and just because something is "disgusting" doesn't make it a crime. Vomit is disgusting, but trying to ban that is beyond foolish.
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André W Aug 30, 2015 6:16 pm CST



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In most of Europe such a product is illegal, you better remove such a product quickly before someone really chooses the legal way to get it removed.
Rape is a crime in nearly all nations and there is no way defending a game it with the right of free speech.
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Geth N Aug 30, 2015 6:23 pm CST

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Then if you're from Europe, adhere to the laws of your country and don't purchase a product your country does not allow within it's borders.





I heard all the controversy and decided to check it out for myself. I've never heard of this site but if you keep standing up for free speech in art you have a new customer for life!
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Jared R Aug 30, 2015 6:17 pm CST

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I'm very happy that you felt free enough to give these guys $4, and One Book Shelf will get their cut of $4.

On the other hand, they will be missing out of everything I buy from Monte Cook games, Green Ronin, Fantasy Flight, Wizards of the Coast, Evil Hat, Catalyst, Goodman Games, and probably a whole bunch of others that aren't popping into mind.

This is not, at all, about free speech. No one is calling for government regulation of the product. Nobody is saying this guy can't find some other venue to sell from. I am, myself, saying that I cannot in good conscience buy from this site while this product is still up.

If it eases your mind, there is plenty of other material I disagree with and likely wouldn't enjoy in the site that I just don't buy. But this is one of those things that isn't just "against my sensibilities" but that also has no redeeming qualities and makes gaming, in general, look bad.

There is nothing that abridges free speech in...See more
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Geth N Aug 30, 2015 6:29 pm CST

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Well, this particular product is not of interest to me, but I've seen others that are interesting, so where they might lose your patronage, they will pick up others, but if you want to vote with your pocketbook based on your principles, I admire that.




Oliver L Aug 30, 2015 3:01 pm CST

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Title is unacceptable, no matter the contents.
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Geth N Aug 30, 2015 6:32 pm CST

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That's like being offended over Vladimir Nabokov's "Lolita".
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Shouldn't this be in the Fields Thread as well?
 
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