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What are you opinions on GamerGate and Brianna Wu / John Flynt?

  • I am of no opinion towards either.

    Votes: 104 8.6%
  • I am neutral on GamerGate, but think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votes: 631 52.1%
  • I am neutral on GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votes: 9 0.7%
  • I am ANTI-GamerGate, but still think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votes: 112 9.2%
  • I am ANTI-GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votes: 37 3.1%
  • I am PRO-GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votes: 309 25.5%
  • I am PRO-GamerGate, but still think that and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votes: 9 0.7%

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Small update before I go: Turns out the decision to yank the Tournament of Rapists game was voluntary on the part of the creator, not because of SJW bullshit, a blog post will be released tomorrow with a further explanation.

Also:


https://archive.is/butJn
 
I was bored, so here is a MSpaint Wu.
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Small update before I go: Turns out the decision to yank the Tournament of Rapists game was voluntary on the part of the creator, not because of SJW bullshit, a blog post will be released tomorrow with a further explanation.

Also:

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https://archive.is/butJn
"They make internet comments, I make my imaginary friends heckle my husband. Who really has the power?"
 
"I am a software engineer."

That joke never gets old.

My outstanding bounty still stands. I want to find out what legitimate engineering credentials she has, if any.

Except the guys behind FATAL are massive lolcows with a hilarious inflated ego. Nobody's suggesting it be banned, just that it be mocked relentlessly. We've had other threads about crazy perverts, I don't see why this guy should get a break just because Wu doesn't like his stuff.

As a fa/tg/uy, I will vouch for the veracity of Rin's statement. FATAL is probably the second-worst RPG ever made with only RaHoWa being unequivocally worse. Definitely thread material in its own right there. Its makers are gigantic morons who rival the level of spergation we have in the loveshy threads. But the thing is: FATAL is so bad you can at least laugh at it. We got the Anal Circumference meme out of this one, so if nothing else, there's some humor to be had from that particular bit of silliness.

Also, we found ways to integrate Maid RPG into Dark Heresy. This is because we get shit done.

Wu made a fucking stupid move here, though. Traditional gamers hate Social Justice, and with good reason. Wu just gave them considerable ammo for future operations.

I was bored, so here is a MSpaint Wu.
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Fucking. Beautiful.
 
Wait, who is Wu siding with on whatever the VMA thing is? Because Dobson has posted stuff about it, and if it's the opposite of what Wu thinks, hilarious backtracking is in the future.
 
Miley Cyrus is still relevant?

The VMAs are still relevant?

Next thing you'll tell me is a person who made one freeware game that still tanked is relevant.
 
I knew it, faggot couldn't help preening:


https://archive.is/22DKe

If the asshole bothered to fucking CONTACT the actual company, the CREATOR yanked it, it wasn't taken down.

Also, DriveThruGames will posting a blog post about the facts of the situation, basically saying the same thing later today. According to the email I got when I contacted them, they suggested a few changes to the title (but this is not a demand) should the creator republish it.

In short, Wu and the SJWs won jack fucking squat.
 
If the asshole bothered to fucking CONTACT the actual company, the CREATOR yanked it, it wasn't taken down.

Are you kidding? She is totally going to claim credit. Since the "I get catcalled" line wore out super-quick, she is going to start adding this game to her presentations.
 
Are you kidding? She is totally going to claim credit. Since the "I get catcalled" line wore out super-quick, she is going to start adding this game to her presentations.

Also, if Wu REALLY wanted something to brag about, idiot should've have tried to get the entire adult lineup purged from their site. Then I'd laugh long and hard at the blowback from the failure.
 
Are you kidding? She is totally going to claim credit. Since the "I get catcalled" line wore out super-quick, she is going to start adding this game to her presentations.
It also fails as soon as you dig into the details, as it isn't a fucking video game
 
Hey, I was looking through the comments of Alison McBain's article about Frank's spiteful facebook post, and I saw this (emphasis mine)

I will not make judgement on you or Frank one way or the other, but I feel the need to offer you a word of warning.

Frank's new wife, Brianna, is a very manipulative, mean, spiteful, and egotistical woman. She will ruin someone just for the sake of ruining them. For this reason, I urge you to be very careful.

Brianna refused to help a dying woman because she cared more about her money than a woman who was supposed to be her friend. So if she will do something like that to a person who she considered a friend, what might she try to do to you?

But if Brianna and Frank do decide to attack you (which will prove Frank is the ass hole and you are the one telling the truth), rest assured you will have help. I won't say by whom because I don't want to cause you any problems, but let's just say I know 40,000 people who will have your back.

Take care, Allison.

Has anyone else talked about something like this?
 
Here's his stupid essay about Tournament of Rapists, in which he semantically states that the removal of the game is not about censorship but about professionalism - failing to understand, of course, that the standard of what is deemed "professional" within one company may differ vastly from what it means in a different company. Naturally, though, John's professionalism is the gold standard that we should all attain - specifically, we should use our work emails and corporate Twitter accounts to post about stuffing our faces with Oreos or marathoning vidya throughout a work day.

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It's Not About Censorship, It's About Professional Standards



Last week, I attended PAX Dev and gave a well-received talk on flat organizational structure. It was a blast. But one of the best moments happened outside the conference, a dinner with other women that work in gamedev, where we shared some of our most recent horror stories of working in this male dominated field.

If there was any consistent theme, it was this - men that work in gamedev are dreamily oblivious to what the women here experience. And that manifests in ways that kill women’s careers, including:

- Management’s inability to understand its hiring biases

- HR’s unwillingness to protect women who speak out

- Organizational unwillingness to respond to blatant sexual harassment

- Women being assigned to roles based on unconscious gender stereotyping

- Failure to intervene with gendered team conflict that could have ended in violence

Yesterday, my friend Jessica Price wrote this blog about trying to communicate with DriveThru RPGabout their choice to sell a game called “Tournament of Rapists,” where the players rape and murder whoever is weaker.

The most disturbing part was their response, which basically amounted to a shrug, some false equivalencies to censoring the f-word and invocation of a slippery slope that all games could end up censored.

These two events might not seem related, but they are. They’re both part of the core problem with the game industry - which is a disturbing exclusion of perspectives that are not straight, white and male. The industry has been built to work for a very specific kind of person. It’s very comfortable for them, but frequently harrowing for the rest of us.

From the beginning, I have had a single goal as a public figure in the game industry. It’s something that I think many people don’t understand when I read articles about how I want to censor all games, or ban all white men from being developers, or usher in a feminist totalitarian state. None of that is true. They have to misrepresent my position, because what I actually want is so eminently reasonable. So, here it is - my actual mission in bold:

My mission objective is to raise professional standards about diversity in the game industry.
I thought about making that text blink, but decided it would be over the top.

In any case, that’s it. I want the game industry to be a safer, fairer place for the rest of us to work, and I want our industry output to be less actively hostile to women, people of color, and LGBT people. Because I have to say, the culture in this field is poisonous in ways a lot of gamers don't seem to realize.

To DriveThru RPG, this is a fun, hypothetical problem about theoretical censorship. What they don't understand is that the rest of us are dealing with an industry that does actual harm to women and other minorities. To be clear, my problem isn’t that there is a game about rape - it’s that DriveThru RPG doesn't hold themselves to reasonable professional standards in the content that they sell.

In an age of digital distribution, censorship is impossible. Anyone can release and sell a game. The question is, what kind of work do the adults that work here choose to support? What are the standards we hold ourselves to?

A videogame version of "Tournament of Rapists" would NEVER get sold on PSN, XBLA or the Nintendo eShop. I don’t know about you, but I haven’t worried about my games being censored for violent or sexual content for about two decades. There are professional institutions that say, “There is the adults table and the children’s table. If you want to sit with the adults, there are some rules of decorum you have to follow.”

I tweeted about DriveThru RPG yesterday and their disturbing response. And I’m happy to say, last night they did talk to the author and get Tournament of Rapists removed. But, in reading the response from the company, I’m unconvinced they understand what’s really going on, or the issue at play. It does no good to get someone to change their policy if they don’t understand the underlying reasoning behind it.

As the CEO of GSX, my values are reflected every single day with the choices I make. It’s reflected in who I hire, in what my policies are, the press that I agree to do and the people I work with. What the public doesn’t see is all the things I say no to behind the scenes. For example:

- I regularly veto stories on Isometric and Rocket because they don’t meet my professional standards.

- I regularly choose not to do media appearances with some people because they don’t meet my professional standards.

- I regularly have delayed ship dates of our games because they haven’t yet met our professional standards.

- I regularly have fired people because they don’t meet our professional standards.

- I regularly say no to advice to be silent about industry institutions that hurt women, because they need to be held to professional standards.

Your company does reflect who you are as a person and the standards you hold yourself to. Until last night, DriveThru RPGs standards were so low that they didn’t think twice about selling a game glorifying rape. In fact, their initial response was to defend it. I hope that’s something they'll think seriously about.
 
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