Brianna Wu / John Flynt - Original Thread

[Linako 2.0]

How many gamedevs have pictures of their restraining orders posted on the company's official twitter? I just can't believe that some people think this is professional conduct.

not only that, but they take a photo of it rather than using a scanner.

 

[Jaimas]

So some interesting things to note on the Wu-tang Fail. Whilst Wu getting reamed over the fact that Steam actually gives a shit about quality is glorious, as is Jace's Batman Incident, I think you guys are missing the best part of this delicious fail-sundae - and that is thus:

They failed. They all failed.

Look around at the so-called "Game Devs" with Anti-GG, and those affiliated with games development:

Zoe Quinn.
Brianna Wu.
Alex Lifschitz.
Phil Fish.
David Gallant.

All of them failed. They're all synonymous now with being zero-talent hacks who solely got through to a market due to rampant cronyism and fail.

Quinn herself made a poorly-optimized game about depression in Twine, took advantage of nothing the media offered, and wondered why people hated it after it was essentially paid for by her friends. Alex Lifschitz, her joy-boy, is a former AAA tester and dev assistant who essentially hyped the game up as the second coming of Godjesus Bearchrist, and destroyed a copy of GTAV symbolically whilst coming across as a nutjob. They are currently outcasts. No company worth the hole in a chicken's ass wants anything to do with Lifschitz - he literally cannot find work in the industry, as evidenced by extensive complaints from him and Quinn. Quinn herself will never successfully put out any game that means anything because she's a zero-talent hack, hence locking onto shit that people laughed out of existence decades ago like FMV games.

Phil Fish, the self-proclaimed saint of indie development, who had a movie declaring him to be some tortured genius who is everything good in games development after essentially ripping off other, better games, turns out to be a giant thief after very wisely deciding to fuck off early on in the conversation - not that this saved him. His misdeeds are now well known and spreading. Fez 2 will never happen because he will never be able to parasitically take credit for someone else's work again. No amount of spin will ever repair his reputation - the blade has dropped, and his head is already in the basket.

David "I Masturbate to Gamergate" Gallant has been repeatedly exposed as a culture-riding shithole solely in it because he things it'll help him score, some sort of analogue to Dobson's final form. His game is utter shit and has passed review from no conventional critic, once more biting at the heels of something more successful as if his story has any weight or significance.

And Wu. Dear, sweet Wu. She that has brought nigh-infinite lulz. Wu is finally learning what we have known all along: Nobody wants what she's selling. There's plenty of room for games that tell a story and do nothing else. There's room for games like Mountain, even if to most they're shit. But Wu failed to heed the most basic of lessons that a developer could learn: If you want to make something that's marketable, it has to appease those it's being marketed to on some level, or you will fail outright.

None of these people, barring their own incestuous company, will ever be able to work in gaming again.

They've lost.

 

[Cosmos]

How many gamedevs have pictures of their restraining orders posted on the company's official twitter? I just can't believe that some people think this is professional conduct.

All Brianna's doing is advertising herself as the World's Biggest Professional Victim. She is not doing her company any favors at all.

 

[Peace and Harmony]

They've lost.

There are not enough Winners in the world for this. This post should be permanently enshrined as a testament to the failure of the entire "movement". Thank you based @Jaimas.

 

[Linako 2.0]

All we need now is Wu wanting to divorce his hubbie and claim she will go on to greater things.

 

[Wulfgar Von Heltzer]

I love this, Brianna latched on to Gamergate, manufacturing false threats and accusing Gamergate of being responsible, then used her connections in the media to get her lots of and lots of news stories centred around her being harassed, threatened and doxxed on the internet (something that happens to anyone, ALL THE TIME, regardless of race, gender, or whatever else), yet this ONE incident was being made into a fucking news story.

And in those news reports, she promoted her game. It was obvious that her core motivation for getting involved in Gamergate was to advertise her terrible excuse for a video game, slandering loads of innocent people to do so. She also severely downplayed the existence other women in Game Development, going as far as to claim she knows every (or almost every) women in the video game industry. Not only that, but grossly exxaggerated how much work she actually put into her game, I believe we've found out that she barely contributed at all, yet, along with lying that it was an all-girl team (when she's later admitted that her husband was involved), she made it out as if she had a huge hand in the development, when she didn't.

She developed a literal cult-following, loads of people worshiping her like Zoe and Anita as a true champion for women in tech. She seemed to have grown drunk with the power she wielded over this mass of imbeciles, seemingly none of them, as far as I have seen, would criticize her precious game. She even managed to create a disgustingly over-funded patreon (for literally doing nothing but bitch on twitter about harassment), which she used some of the money from to buy a fucking expensive motorcycle (I believe she actually admitted this on twitter).

And now, having finished the PC port and pushed it onto greenlight, it all falls apart for Wu. The audience she expected to buy her game rejects it, because it's fucking shit for a multitude of reasons. Effectively nobody wants to buy her steaming pile of garbage, and she can't stand it, and is having a meltdown. She accuses everyone who dislikes her game of being a mysognist Gamergater, unable to accept that people don't like it because of the severe flaws, and, apparently, even SJW's hate it for being sexist because they think any sexualization of women is sexism.

Her game will be a financial failure. Her motivation for getting involved in Gamergate backfired hilariously.

The only success she will have had from all this was with her patreon, but how much longer will that last, I wonder?

 

[Null]

All of them failed. They're all synonymous now with being zero-talent hacks who solely got through to a market due to rampant cronyism and fail.

I don't see how they've failed.

Brianna Wu comes from a wealthy family and married into money and now makes $156,000 a year off donations alone. Her game, albeit isn't fun, but has made $500,000 as of like half a year ago.

Zoe Quinn demonstrates it's who you know and not what you know and is still getting employment in various video games as an art consult or whatever. She makes $4,000 a month (more than me, doing actual programming) off Patreon despite not even having a product.

Anita Sarkeesian swindled thousands out of her Kickstarter and has yet to put up half her product. She is revered by an entire fellowship with an almost god-like status and receives awards and cash prizes from universities for her work. You can say they're of dubious quality or worth of recognition, but money talks.

Although I don't know much about Leigh Alexander, she's kept her job so her life can't be any worse than it was in 2013.

I don't know about the other three but they're all men and the men of the opposition tend to be really worthless and pathetic by the own right.


More importantly, these people now own Wikipedia and Universities. They may be fringe or whatever in your mind now, but they duplicate. Since they control education and information in the two most important facets of our society right now, things will progressively get worse. You'll see a new Zoe Quinn every year for the rest of your life.

 

[HG 400]

That 14k patreon thing, wasn't that just because of a one-time 10k donation?

 

[Null]

That 14k patreon thing, wasn't that just because of a one-time 10k donation?

It hasn't changed for as long as I've seen it up.

 

[Rogowski]

Is anyone else seeing the meltdown taking place on Brianna's twitter about Steam?

 

[Smutley]

That 14k patreon thing, wasn't that just because of a one-time 10k donation?

It hasn't changed for as long as I've seen it up.

*head explodes* I hate you both so much lol

 

[dickwad]

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Well well well. Didn't wo once claim he was registered transgender/changed his information by legal means and it's criminal to call she a he? Can't provide a tweet but still it's sort of hilarious (tickles a deep part of my brain that should not tickle), if the pic is true.

 

[Sweet and Savoury]

I've always been curious about how folks like this can scoop up such large amounts of money and then when they fail to actually make anything with the donate funds no one cries foul.

Anita is a prime example of this. Hundreds of thousands of dollars are been donated to her to produce videos, she make 2 crappy ones then stops but her legion of fans say nothing?

I will never understand this mentality. V

 

[Jaimas]

I don't see how they've failed.

Brianna Wu comes from a wealthy family and married into money and now makes $156,000 a year off donations alone. Her game, albeit isn't fun, but has made $500,000 as of like half a year ago.

Zoe Quinn demonstrates it's who you know and not what you know and is still getting employment in various video games as an art consult or whatever. She makes $4,000 a month (more than me, doing actual programming) off Patreon despite not even having a product.

Anita Sarkeesian swindled thousands out of her Kickstarter and has yet to put up half her product. She is revered by an entire fellowship with an almost god-like status and receives awards and cash prizes from universities for her work. You can say they're of dubious quality or worth of recognition, but money talks.

Although I don't know much about Leigh Alexander, she's kept her job so her life can't be any worse than it was in 2013.

I don't know about the other three but they're all men and the men of the opposition tend to be really worthless and pathetic by the own right.


More importantly, these people now own Wikipedia and Universities. They may be fringe or whatever in your mind now, but they duplicate. Since they control education and information in the two most important facets of our society right now, things will progressively get worse. You'll see a new Zoe Quinn every year for the rest of your life.

Let's ignore for a moment that, due to connections alone, the majority of these people are wealthy on a level that the entire list of people who've posted in this thread are unlikely to even be able to fathom. It's an inaccurate barometer because the overpowering majority of them have fucking nothing to their name to justify it beyond being professional victims and assholes. No amount of damage done to Wu, for example, will ever eclipse the fact that she comes from a retardedly wealthy background and will essentially live a comfortable life regardless of how successful everything else is or isn't.

You and I both know that isn't the point of this.

What I meant is that they've failed in the immediate term. The same bullshit "we are the sole custodians of culture" bullshit that's been wafting off of these assholes for generations? As far as gaming's concerned, that just got dragged into an alleyway and shot. They tried to push that shit into gaming, and it went about as well as airing abortion footage in the middle of a Disney cartoon. It's an ego-punch that'll definitely hamstring their attempts to make further headway in this endeavor. This sure as shit won't be the last time we see it, but the market obliges. Shit is shit, and as we've seen from these people repeatedly, no amount of spin is enough to circumvent that unimpeachable fact.

This said, I'll agree with you that this is part of a much bigger issue that we have to deal with - but I'm not so myopic as to view the situation as hopeless. If they can be fought off here, they can be fought off elsewhere. Economically, their shit's unsustainable. They're already killing the sites the co-opt, and their mindset is becoming increasingly easy to microtarget and fight. None of them ever make any reasonable effort to hide themselves, and the ones that do still manage to be revealed in short order. I feel that this shows they can be beaten. Make of that what you will.

But in the short-term, yeah, shit's gonna suck. For quite a bit.

 

[MiloWuCollusion]

I've always been curious about how folks like this can scoop up such large amounts of money and then when they fail to actually make anything with the donate funds no one cries foul.

Anita is a prime example of this. Hundreds of thousands of dollars are been donated to her to produce videos, she make 2 crappy ones then stops but her legion of fans say nothing?

I will never understand this mentality. V

Because then people would need to admit that they donated money to her because they feel sorry for than she actually being a good critic.

It helps that most criticism gets labeled to "harassment" even when are legit questions as "why does she stole footage from others YT?, why not give them credit?"

In any case, I'm not to worried about crazy power hungry SJW and more about malicious and intelligent power hungry guys that would end more "internet" savvy after the whole debacle. Hell was build of good intentions, so what happens when the demons come to play?

 

[Sweet and Savoury]

But what about the legal (if any) obligations?

They collected the money to do a task but now those funds are being used for a different purpose. I thought that was called fraud?

 

[NegaCWC]

Didn't wo once claim he was registered transgender/changed his information by legal means and it's criminal to call she a he?

I don't think that Wu ever admitted to being trans. I recall seeing a Ghazi post somewhere in which Wu said that she won't deny nor confirm the claims that she is trans, because this would be playing into the hands of transphobes.

Can't provide a tweet but still it's sort of hilarious (tickles a deep part of my brain that should not tickle), if the pic is true.

I believe that this is a real picture of a restraining order, it's hard for me to think that Wu would forge a restraining order in which she outs herself. Here's an archived version of the tweet in case Wu decides to delete the evidence.

 

[PsychicFish]

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Well well well. Didn't wo once claim he was registered transgender/changed his information by legal means and it's criminal to call she a he? Can't provide a tweet but still it's sort of hilarious (tickles a deep part of my brain that should not tickle), if the pic is true.

As I pointed out in the Jace thread, that's the defendant's info, ie Jace's.

 

[Batman VS Tony Danza]

Sex:
[x] male [ ] female
Well well well. Didn't wo once claim he was registered transgender/changed his information by legal means and it's criminal to call she a he? Can't provide a tweet but still it's sort of hilarious (tickles a deep part of my brain that should not tickle), if the pic is true.

That's the gender of the person she's filing against. S'okay, lots of people made that mistake.

 

[NegaCWC]

As I pointed out in the Jace thread, that's the defendant's info, ie Jace's.

You're right, we didn't look at it good enough. Why couldn't you let me continue to live in blissful ignorance?!? All I wanted was to listen and believe...