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What are you opinions on GamerGate and Brianna Wu / John Flynt?

  • I am of no opinion towards either.

    Votes: 104 8.6%
  • I am neutral on GamerGate, but think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votes: 631 52.1%
  • I am neutral on GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votes: 9 0.7%
  • I am ANTI-GamerGate, but still think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votes: 112 9.2%
  • I am ANTI-GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votes: 37 3.1%
  • I am PRO-GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votes: 309 25.5%
  • I am PRO-GamerGate, but still think that and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votes: 9 0.7%

  • Total voters
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Pretty sure the film doesn't describe an upper-class family.
 
Wu explains what 'white feminism is:


http://tweetsave.com/spacekatgal/status/649463643000688640


http://tweetsave.com/spacekatgal/status/649463794960363520


http://tweetsave.com/spacekatgal/status/649465085090504704


http://tweetsave.com/spacekatgal/status/649465478809825280


http://tweetsave.com/spacekatgal/status/649466343679508480


@Jaimas, I ask again: Are you SURE Frank shoved his hand up John's ass and put this shit in John's mouth?

If so, Frank either secretly hates what he married, hence all the self degradation John is spewing like an idiot, or John has a mind of his own and the blithering idiocy really is his own invention.
 
But... There are black Barbies? (ex. Christie) There is even a long line of complaints of there not being enough black dolls on the market, and even disputes over the pricing of black dolls vs white.

It has nothing to do with Ferguson and seems very insensitive to compare the two. :\
 
But... There are black Barbies? (ex. Christie) There is even a long line of complaints of there not being enough black dolls on the market, and even disputes over the pricing of black dolls vs white.

It has nothing to do with Ferguson and seems very insensitive to compare the two. :\
The concept that Ferguson is entirely to do with race is a gross oversimplification that borders on offensive. If anything, it's a stratification issue, dealing with race, income, education, socialization, and about a dozen other issues. People of any ethnicity who grow up in Ferguson as opposed to counties like Ladue and Town & Country are going to face a significant disadvantage in the long term, and it's an issue that has gone unaddressed for far too long.
Honestly, I'd appreciate it if Wu would at least know what she's trying to defend before she opens her mouth.

Edit: If Wu cares so fucking much, she should feel free to drop on by St. Clair and try to help out. Beyond that, her use of a serious issue to promote a personal goal is rather.... problematic. :c
 
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Wu explains what 'white feminism is:

[MEDIA=twitter]649463643000688640[/MEDIA]
http://tweetsave.com/spacekatgal/status/649463643000688640

[MEDIA=twitter]649463794960363520[/MEDIA]
http://tweetsave.com/spacekatgal/status/649463794960363520

[MEDIA=twitter]649465085090504704[/MEDIA]
http://tweetsave.com/spacekatgal/status/649465085090504704

[MEDIA=twitter]649465478809825280[/MEDIA]
http://tweetsave.com/spacekatgal/status/649465478809825280

[MEDIA=twitter]649466343679508480[/MEDIA]
http://tweetsave.com/spacekatgal/status/649466343679508480


@Jaimas, I ask again: Are you SURE Frank shoved his hand up John's ass and put this shit in John's mouth?

If so, Frank either secretly hates what he married, hence all the self degradation John is spewing like an idiot, or John has a mind of his own and the blithering idiocy really is his own invention.
haha yes! Femsplain to that mayo faced bitch, put her in her place.

Looks like Wu has gone "full Tumblr" and adopted the use of "white" as a derogatory term and all the "oh it doesn't mean white people it means white people" bullshit that comes with it.

Looked into the app she's whinging about and it was actually made by two women in tech. :lol::lol::lol:

What does Ferguson got to do with feminism again
It was a popular hashtag on Twitter and anything popular on Twitter is a MAJOR feminist issue
 
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Wu explains what 'white feminism is:

[MEDIA=twitter]649463643000688640[/MEDIA]
http://tweetsave.com/spacekatgal/status/649463643000688640

[MEDIA=twitter]649463794960363520[/MEDIA]
http://tweetsave.com/spacekatgal/status/649463794960363520

[MEDIA=twitter]649465085090504704[/MEDIA]
http://tweetsave.com/spacekatgal/status/649465085090504704

[MEDIA=twitter]649465478809825280[/MEDIA]
http://tweetsave.com/spacekatgal/status/649465478809825280

[MEDIA=twitter]649466343679508480[/MEDIA]
http://tweetsave.com/spacekatgal/status/649466343679508480


@Jaimas, I ask again: Are you SURE Frank shoved his hand up John's ass and put this shit in John's mouth?

If so, Frank either secretly hates what he married, hence all the self degradation John is spewing like an idiot, or John has a mind of his own and the blithering idiocy really is his own invention.
I'm pretty sure all that is the literal definition of "mansplaining".
 
Edit: If Wu cares so fucking much, she should feel free to drop on by St. Clair and try to help out. Beyond that, her use of a serious issue to promote a personal goal is rather.... problematic. :c

You're joking, right? By far the most effective means of helping the marginalised in society is by tweeting condescendingly about them 24/7. John is too busy revolutionising video games to actually go and help people you SHITLORD.
 
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What does Ferguson got to do with feminism again
"Intersectional" feminists claim that if a feminist does not also complain about Ferguson, or issues of "Persons of Color" on the regular in addition to whining about mansplaining, they are a "white" feminist.

From what I hear, non-white feminists have been complaining for a while that feminists who are white and not intersectional have been ignoring "their issues" forever.
 
regarding "White Feminism"

Feminists and SJWs have a well-established history of ignoring facts and instead deciding who is correct in a situation based on oppression points. So while it is okay for a cis white straight feminist woman to bitch at cis straight white male scum, it is less okay for cis white straight feminist women to bitch at other cis white straight feminist women.

Considering that cis white straight women are by far the majority population in feminism (and especially in e - feminism), most of their hissfits at each other end in a stalemate. A good way to break that stalemate would be to claim or pretend that your opinion covers other groups with more oppression points as well. An easy way to do that is to bring in race which is how we end up with whiter than chalk feminists complaining about white feminism at other people (including, in some hilarious cases, minorities).

A really funny example was when Lena Dunham was outed by her own book as perving on her 8 year-old sister. Many feminists supported Dunham while some condemned her. The "condemning" side of the argument decided that Dunham received support because she was white and used that as a weapon, like in the following article

http://feminspire.com/white-feminists-fucking-ignoring-lena-dunhams-abuse/2/

In that article there is nothing to support the "white" part of the "white feminists". It's just put there to claim higher moral ground (oppression points) and silence the opposition in this inter-feminist catfight in the same way feminists try to devalue men's opinions (unless they are men who agree with them) by pointing out that they are men and supposedly have less oppression points.

Do I doubt that most of Lena Dunham's feminist supporters were white? No, of course not, that's because the vast majority of (e-) feminists are from the U.S. and Europe and they tend to be privileged in aspects that actually matter (e.g. wealth and social class) so they are more likely to be white. But I haven't seen a single reason to label them as "white feminists" other than the usual feminist oppression game.

In Brianna's case, she hasn't activated the Tranny card yet so she is considered just a white straight cis feminist which is a dime a dozen in feminist circles and doesn't give many oppression points. So she has to look elsewhere.
 
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If true, this is utterly baffling. Frank had to have known that Brianna had no skills - that was pretty much the entire basis of their courtship, for crying out loud. How could he have thought this was a good idea?

She claims to be an engineer. Has for ages. Perhaps Frank didn't actually know about her lack of skill in the first place?

Perhaps he listen and believed.

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@Jaimas, I ask again: Are you SURE Frank shoved his hand up John's ass and put this shit in John's mouth?

If so, Frank either secretly hates what he married, hence all the self degradation John is spewing like an idiot, or John has a mind of his own and the blithering idiocy really is his own invention.

John being an idiot is his own invention.

I think what happened is that there came a point (I'd say around 2 months before our beloved Commander Styker got involved :stickup:) where Brianna started to go off-script due to her own ego. If you look earlier in the Wu saga, she was more competent and with more straightforward responses. She didn't hit the full tweet-burning, can-barely-go-three-hours-without-fucking-up Brianna Wu we know and love to mock until around November. At this point, anything sane that Frank was trying to do became about as effective as grease on fire, and he moved into full-fledged damage control.

Frank started this as a puppet master, and quickly wound up dragged around by his puppet's strings as she burned bridges and generally turned herself into haram in the eyes of her fellow Antis.
 
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She claims to be an engineer. Has for ages. Perhaps Frank didn't actually know about her lack of skill in the first place?

Perhaps he listen and believed.
Just some free-thinking on the subject so bear with me.

I think they conned each other. Frank probably claimed that he was an extremely influential multi-time Hugo award winning artist. He left out that the awards were for fan art and that his influence is rather niche compared to other people involved in the GG shitfest. But whatever, Brianna bought it because she was looking for someone with enough capital (and influence) to make SocUnc/Election Eve a thing again. Frank may have even been the thing that got her to change it to sci-fi since it's the only genre he has experience with.

As for Brianna, I'm guessing the "software engineer" crap wasn't what sold Frank to her because she only really started hammering on that about two or three months after they inserted themselves into GamerGate and Brianna decided that "video game developer" didn't sound special enough for her. What I bet she told Frank was that she was a wildly successful businesswoman who started her own animation studio and that she had an amazing project idea that was guaranteed to be a hit. As I said above, Brianna was looking for anyone who would help her get her Sonichu going and, considering how the mobile market was at the time, they both figured a video game would be the best/easiest approach. Brianna would be the head manager of the video game studio because of her "experience" and Frank would use his connections in the science fiction community to make sure the game got a strong press push.

Then both of them got exposed. Frank saw Brianna's terrible management drive away their actual development team, drag the project out too long, and sink more money into it than they could ever hope to recuperate. Brianna saw that Frank's influence was extremely niche and wasn't going to produce the strong press her "masterpiece" needed. Also, mobile games were beginning to get a negative reputation as scams. They both needed an out and then GamerGate happened. Brianna saw the attention the other LWs got and thought it could overcome the limitations of Frank's connections. Frank probably saw the money both women were getting from Patreon and believed if Brianna could transition into being a figurehead like Sarkeesian then he could regain some of his lost money over time. I doubt that either had any intention of doing more with Revolution60 once they hopped on the GG train.
 

...says the white, male, conservative, racist, homophobic, misogynistic, fat-shaming "women in tech" "feminist" who recently went on an extended complaint about Scooby Doo Legos.
 
"White feminism doesn't mean white people like me just white people who aren't me"

Also the "Google test devices arrive soon" tweet was classic Wu. It implies that Google sent her something specifically so she can develop for their stuff. What it really means is she went on an ambien fueled Amazon spree and bought an android tablet.
 
Then both of them got exposed. Frank saw Brianna's terrible management drive away their actual development team, drag the project out too long, and sink more money into it than they could ever hope to recuperate. Brianna saw that Frank's influence was extremely niche and wasn't going to produce the strong press her "masterpiece" needed. Also, mobile games were beginning to get a negative reputation as scams. They both needed an out and then GamerGate happened. Brianna saw the attention the other LWs got and thought it could overcome the limitations of Frank's connections. Frank probably saw the money both women were getting from Patreon and believed if Brianna could transition into being a figurehead like Sarkeesian then he could regain some of his lost money over time. I doubt that either had any intention of doing more with Revolution60 once they hopped on the GG train.

Of course I personally have no real way of saying whether this is reality or not, but the thought of two greaseball scammers getting together and mutually fucking each other over with their lies and deceit is such a delightful moral fable that I'm going to go ahead and LISTEN AND BELIEVE this one.
 
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