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What are you opinions on GamerGate and Brianna Wu / John Flynt?

  • I am of no opinion towards either.

    Votes: 104 8.6%
  • I am neutral on GamerGate, but think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votes: 631 52.1%
  • I am neutral on GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votes: 9 0.7%
  • I am ANTI-GamerGate, but still think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votes: 112 9.2%
  • I am ANTI-GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votes: 37 3.1%
  • I am PRO-GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votes: 309 25.5%
  • I am PRO-GamerGate, but still think that and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votes: 9 0.7%

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It's hilarious that both Wu and Quinn seem to put themselves into the role of the Anita-expy.

Seriously. It really seems like they just made Anita a developer in the story to make it easier to explain. I don't think the character herself was based on Wu or Zoe so much. The character even has on giant hoop earrings as we see her walk in front of an audience with a projected image in the background. I think the relationship with a guy who has money/connections/influence was based on Zoe. It's not accurate but I wouldn't be shocked if she was the inspiration for that aspect of the story.. As for Wu I honestly can't see any obvious influence she had on the character or story other than creating some media buzz the writers may have seen. If Wu had never thrown herself into the drama I can't see the episode being any different.
 
It's hilarious that both Wu and Quinn seem to put themselves into the role of the Anita-expy.

I like how they think the gamers attacking the female dev is so offensive and fucked up, but not gamers themselves literally turned into terrorists.

I guess they don't care about anyone other than themselves and their clique, what a suprise!
 
Have you seen some of the changes some peeps went through? Some of 'em are downright amzing, as in "can hardly tell they're the same person" good.

Oh yeah: Brianna attempts to argue about sexualization... while going flat against Anita's arguments. This better be leading to something good.
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I don't think she remembered that half the time sexualizing a character while make "gamebros" like them infinitely more. And what players?

>gamebros
again with that word.
it sounds more like a compliment than an insult
 
Wu wasn't even known when the episode was written or filmed. She's just trying to insert herself into it because she wants to matter.
 
Wu wasn't even known when the episode was written or filmed. She's just trying to insert herself into it because she wants to matter.

To be charitable, the Gamergate victim stand-in in the episode has elements of Sarkeesian in terms of character drama (a lot of the threats and violence she got in the episode were clearly based off those received, real or alleged, by Anita), Quinn (the controversy the stand-in got so much heat for is basically a serial numbers filed off version of what triggered Gamergate), and Wu (who, of the three, designed an actual game meant for profit, terrible though it might be, and ironically the one portrayed in the episode looked much better than R60 on its best day), so it may not be entirely attention whoring for any of three to see elements of themselves in the character, intentional or not.

Still, I do agree it's peak lolcow to assume the episode is a direct representation of ones own drama when it apparently drew inspiration from multiple sources.
 
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Chris 2.0 said:

I'm sorry, were you saying something about your characters not being sex objects..?

Because you kind of forfeited the right to use that around the time the Geishabot subplot became a thing.
 
To be charitable, the Gamergate victim stand-in in the episode has elements of Sarkeesian in terms of character drama (a lot of the threats and violence she got in the episode were clearly based off those received, real or alleged, by Anita), Quinn (the controversy the stand-in got so much heat for is basically a serial numbers filed off version of what triggered Gamergate), and Wu (who, of the three, designed an actual game meant for profit, terrible though it might be, and ironically the one portrayed in the episode looked much better than R60 on its best day), so it may not be entirely attention whoring for any of three to see elements of themselves in the character, intentional or not.

Still, I do agree it's peak lolcow to assume the episode is a direct representation of ones own drama when it apparently drew inspiration from multiple sources.
Having finally watched it, holy shit. It was everything I expected and more. It's Reefer Madness brought into the modern age, made to be about video games, and even leveled up in ridiculousness. But yeah, she's an amalgamation/idealized form of 3 LWs. That's what they were trying for anyways. In actuality, she's closer to TFYC than anything else.

I can only imagine what someone who had no previous exposure to this would think. Like "no social justice in video games!" completely out of the blue. No explanation of what social justice is up until then, and it never comes up again. I like to imagine that thousands of old people around the country went "wut" all at once when this thing aired.
 
Ya but it's her WHITE PRIVILEGE that makes her insensitive to issues of oppre....

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Spot-on review. Even if that person is black AND a woman, I'm pretty sure Brianna and crew will come up with some convoluted way to try and dismiss her opinion.

"This game was made for ... uh... different women other than you!"
They might try to discredit her as an "Uncle Tom with internalized mysogony".
 
Holiday is a member of Chessboard, a special operations team led by a probability-computing AI.

I also just noticed what a stupid name "Chessboard" or anything chess-related is for something that computes probabilities. Chess has nothing whatsoever to do with probabilities.
 
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