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Kachiggerisanickher said:
I wanna see someone start a modern left wing white nationalist movement and see how these things would react. Nationalism was originally a left wing movement.
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Just play videos of 2004 John Kerry whining about "Benedict Arnold Companies" moving their factories overseas, and declare him a nationalist. There's plenty of clips of Hillary talking about the need for a border wall, Obama bragging about deportations and drone strikes on browns, and Biden whining about black kids in schools turning public schools into a jungle. It shouldn't be hard to just claim the Democrat Nationalist Party has always existed and you're an uneducated alt-right troll for saying otherwise.
 
WhiskeyJack said:
It shouldn't be hard to just claim the Democrat Nationalist Party has always existed and you're an uneducated alt-right troll for saying otherwise.
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The modern Democrat party is represented by AOC and Zohran Mamdani and throughout the last 15 years (especially since 2020), the entire party has moved to the left of the Overton window. John Kerry, Obama, Hillary and Biden are not going to hold the same opinions that they did in 2008. And most of them are octogenarians (with Obama being the youngest and he's in his 60s) and on their way out of mainstream politics.
 
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DueTretective said:
The modern Democrat party is represented by AOC and Zohran Mamdani and throughout the last 15 years (especially since 2020), the entire party has moved to the left of the Overton window. John Kerry, Obama, Hillary and Biden are not going to hold the same opinions that they did in 2008. And most of them are octogenarians (with Obama being the youngest and he's in his 60s) and on their way out of mainstream politics.
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Nationalism and Patriotism more generally belongs to the Right, the Left has spent so long rejecting it that any time they try to put in on it feels fake and forced(because it is)
I've said this to people IRL, we've gone from "the democrats are the REAL racists" to "The Left are the REAL patriots" that's not nothing.
 
Edgeymcedgename said:
the Left has spent so long rejecting it that any time they try to put in on it feels fake and forced(because it is)
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Leftists have always hated America so there's no reasoning with them. But there was a time (after 9/11) when you saw a lot of liberals and Democrats openly talked about Patriotism and Nationalism positively. But that was short-lived. In the early 2010s, a huge wave of identity politics shit started like Third wave feminism, MeToo, BLM. It started first in academic circles, then spread to political debates and the media, then to entertainment industry and corporate environment and finally American society as a whole.

The Democrat establishment used to be centrist and even a bit conservative sometimes, but as the Overton window moved, the party also got dragged further and further to the left by a bunch of fringe radicals. So what you get in 2026 is a Dem party that is very left-wing in their domestic policies and very reactionary in their foreign policies. A horrible combination.
 
DueTretective said:
Leftists have always hated America so there's no reasoning with them. But there was a time (after 9/11) when you saw a lot of liberals and Democrats openly talked about Patriotism and Nationalism positively. But that was short-lived. In the early 2010s, a huge wave of identity politics shit started like Third wave feminism, MeToo, BLM. It started first in academic circles, then spread to political debates and the media, then to entertainment industry and corporate environment and finally American society as a whole.
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Edgeymcedgename said:
I've said this to people IRL, we've gone from "the democrats are the REAL racists" to "The Left are the REAL patriots" that's not nothing.
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I believe that the idea of leftist ideology being patriotic and helping America just trying to tear it down is the Democrats backtracking after all the globalist anti-US rhetoric of the 2020's alienated many from their most valuable voting bloc, Gen-X and Boomers, who still believe the United States and its institutions are good and should be reformed rather than destroyed.

Reminder that only 15% of all voters in 2024 were aged 18-30. This is partially because population is an inverted pyramid, but also because older people have greater rates of political participation for natural reasons.

Even on the leftist side of the population aged 30+, the vast majority of them don't hate the USA down to its foundations. The most extreme popular opinion is that the US ought to become like the American liberal's idealized conception of what a democratic Western European state is. A country that participates in Globohomo institutions, funds pride parades, and lets in brown people to give them free stuff for a greater secular good while still flying the flag and celebrating social-democrat freedom. Of course, such a dramatic shift would result in a Ship of Theseus situation for the US, but never assume these voters are rational.

The America haters like those in the DSA, despite their noise, have only solid ideological support from a small slice of leftist Millennials and Zoomers. AOC and Omar, for instance, come from shoe-in Democrat seats primarily propped up by browns looking for free shit and they're still the only names people recognize from this camp. Anti-patriotism is generally bad optics-wise.

Also, getting elected so that you may destroy the institutions that gave you the power and legitimacy to do such a thing in the first place is very, very retarded.
 
Edgeymcedgename said:
Yes
You've listed to a leftist before right?
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Yes,

They all believe this to some extent and that's why they're all retarded. The most extreme ones think they can tear up the fabric of society to put themselves at the top while the more reasonable ones want a slow, gradual change into their desired end-state that doesn't require total economic collapse and the deaths of millions. Both are delusional, but the more extreme ones always win out because human beings are impatient. That's what happened to the Mensheviks and that's what's going to happen to the boomer class in the DNC still clinging onto their out-of-date liberal ideas.
 
Mr. Delicious said:
Basic Logic Video: 6 minutes
Response to Basic Logic Video: 61 minutes
And that's only part one!

Edit: Decided to go back and watch the whole thing because there's nothing to do at work. Although I don't think he's anywhere near as retarded, this guy reminds me a lot of Jammies. They have almost the same format. Both watch in real time the entirety of a video, pausing every few seconds to go on a tirade. Both have plainly not seen the video before, but decided that it was wrong ahead of time. Both have this same self-soothing tic of asserting that what they're watching is dumb before they continue watching it. The only real difference is that this guy doesn't autistically handwrite his notes in MS Paint. I wonder if maybe this is the dawn of a Breadtube 2.0? A new style of leftie slop content composed entirely of reactions to popular dissident videos?
Also, at the end, he makes the argument that Basic Logic is himself transgender and repressing it.
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So basically every Breadtube video will just be a Hasan stream
 
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Saw this video being hyped. Basically Capatalism makes you lose "empathy", social Democrats are conservative and the left are too chud apparently as they defend Nazis and support racism.
 
Kachiggerisanickher said:
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Saw this video being hyped. Basically Capatalism makes you lose "empathy", social Democrats are conservative and the left are too chud apparently as they defend Nazis and support racism.
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The irony of making a video about how "le capitalism makes you lose yuh heckin empathy" and then getting a fucktillion dollars for making it is definitely lost on the creator.

Also wtf is with leftists and talking about empathy like it's a god damn superpower? Are they so self-absorbed that thinking of others before themselves becomes a mythical, purely hypothetical concept to them?
 
Edgeymcedgename said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Vsu6Q-EbGqwI'm not watching this, but I did find it.
Don't tell me "Fascism is when military+Racism" am I right?
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The video is about how Herge (creator of tintin) created tintin as government propaganda by the Belgian government and would use it to justify Belgian (and european) influence in Africa. Herge also criticized Soviet Union Communism and American Capitalism seeing them both as extremes. The rest of the video is about how every story that ever existed is political, the video is typical lefty gayness but educational about the history of tintin.
 
WiggerNationalist said:
Also wtf is with leftists and talking about empathy like it's a god damn superpower? Are they so self-absorbed that thinking of others before themselves becomes a mythical, purely hypothetical concept to them?
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It’s because what they call empathy is not our inherent ability to empathize, but their learned ability to rationalize far left ideas. To you or me, empathy is a thing that we mostly figured out in elementary school and hopefully mastered around the time we left our teens behind. To them it is genuinely a skill that gives them power in their social circles
 
Reminmyster said:
The video is about how Herge (creator of tintin) created tintin as government propaganda by the Belgian government and would use it to justify Belgian (and european) influence in Africa. Herge also criticized Soviet Union Communism and American Capitalism seeing them both as extremes. The rest of the video is about how every story that ever existed is political, the video is typical lefty gayness but educational about the history of tintin.
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So I was right!
 
WiggerNationalist said:
Also wtf is with leftists and talking about empathy like it's a god damn superpower? Are they so self-absorbed that thinking of others before themselves becomes a mythical, purely hypothetical concept to them?
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Surfin Terf said:
It’s because what they call empathy is not our inherent ability to empathize, but their learned ability to rationalize far left ideas. To you or me, empathy is a thing that we mostly figured out in elementary school and hopefully mastered around the time we left our teens behind. To them it is genuinely a skill that gives them power in their social circles
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It's because they conceptualize all rightwing thought as derived from base irrationality. They believe that if any rightwinger put themselves in a 'marginalized' person's shoes (poor, brown, fag, woman), then they'd instantly become an ardent leftist if they had any sort of conscience.

Why? For them, anyone applying empathy should naturally then advocate for radical wealth redistribution, prison abolition, open borders, and other leftist policies to reduce the unjust suffering they'll obviously conceptualize the poors, browns, faggots, and women as experiencing. Further, leftists believe that anyone holding rightwing views is too stupid or prideful to participate in this thought experiment. However, if the hypothetical chud can conceptualize the suffering, yet continues to be rightwing, then he is therefore immoral, manipulated, sociopathic, or too self-interested to see the light.

Even ignoring the numerous second and third-order problems that come from feel-good policies, one of the main issues with their empathy is ironically the lack of theory of mind. The leftist, being a 95-105 IQ white person, projects feelings of guilt and shame onto the 80 IQ convicted black man, applying emotional and mental processes that simply don't exist in the other person's head. Or they may see a homeless person shivering on the street and think of themselves shivering there. They bring him home and then are murdered because the leftist didn't have the knowledge to know he was willing to murder.

Even so, 'empathy' isn't good itself, it's just another cognitive tool that's been given paramount importance in media and academia because it's the easiest way to trick people into believing in all their retarded policies. If empathy is your only principle, then there's no reason not to let in every brown person into your white countries.
 
It's because the Democrat party has better marketing (it markets itself as the party of compassion/empathy and everyone who isn't a psychopath likes compassion) and so it attracts people who are more susceptible to marketing (women, druggies, and people with low self-esteem), and therefore there is a correlation between caring a lot about leftism and being very susceptible to marketing. It's the same reason why the toxic positivity crowd is mostly left-leaning: you are literally preventing them from enjoying things by marketing to them that thing bad.
 
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