Boxing (sport) - Because who doesn't want to punch bassomatic in the face

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VIVIsectVI said:
holy shit, what a fight... one of the best I've ever seen. both kicked serious ass. I honestly thought it could go either way.
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Only in the 4th, Fury was effectively dominant throughout otherwise. Minus the opening round and the 4th, I would say Tyson won every round and then some.
 
surprisemfka said:
Anyone know much about the Lions Den Boxing Community aka the LDBC? They seem like the We Wuz Kingz n sheit of boxing

Here's a clip of so called LDBC youtubers coping about Wilder's KO loss to Fury, getting a lot Tariq Nasheed vibes.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=6BIfkRjHYIM
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Seems other boxing forums treat them as BLM/Antifa with shitty takes and a political agenda.
 
Any predictions on Canelo v Plant?

I believe Plant may manage to hold out decently until the 3rd, then its going to be Canelo's bout. 8th round knockout easily.
 
Shakur Stevenson is a fast and furious man. Keep an eye out for him.







 
ANobody said:
Any predictions on Canelo v Plant?

I believe Plant may manage to hold out decently until the 3rd, then its going to be Canelo's bout. 8th round knockout easily.
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I honestly think that Canelo vs Plant is going to be like Canelo vs Saunders, except Plant is going to be slightly easier to take out. Plant is too stiff with his punches, so he's going to gas out in the 6th round or so. He also ducks too low very often just like Saunders, which will allow Canelo to land uppercuts.

I think Canelo will win via knockout in the 8th or 9th, but I think it's going to be an actual knockout, not a TKO or RTD.
 
immovable object said:
I honestly think that Canelo vs Plant is going to be like Canelo vs Saunders, except Plant is going to be slightly easier to take out. Plant is too stiff with his punches, so he's going to gas out in the 6th round or so. He also ducks too low very often just like Saunders, which will allow Canelo to land uppercuts.

I think Canelo will win via knockout in the 8th or 9th, but I think it's going to be an actual knockout, not a TKO or RTD.
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accurate, except Caleb showed more heart, and won my respect. Hated to see him get booed in Vegas.
 
WutangLee said:
accurate, except Caleb showed more heart, and won my respect. Hated to see him get booed in Vegas.
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After watching the fight, I honestly thought that Canelo could've knocked Plant out at any moment. He just chose to lay back and "play with his food". Sweethands did what I expected him to by playing defense and throwing light shots that Canelo would have an easy time defending. If you look closely, the only weapon that Canelo really used to beat Plant was the left hook, given how low Plant's right hand usually is.

I was somewhat surprised that Canelo chose to draw out the fight a little bit given his conflict with Plant at the stare-down. I even expected Plant to be a bit more effective with his punches, but he turned out to be worse.

The fight overall was kind of sad; it felt sort of like Canelo's fight with Julio Cesar Chavez Jr, where the opponent really couldn't do much to hurt the other guy. There was even a moment that was exactly same as the one in the Chavez bout where Canelo went to the ropes and tried goading Plant into punching him.

I do give props to Plant for defending whatever Canelo offered, but defense just isn't enough in pro boxing.



 
immovable object said:
After watching the fight, I honestly thought that Canelo could've knocked Plant out at any moment. He just chose to lay back and "play with his food". Sweethands did what I expected him to by playing defense and throwing light shots that Canelo would have an easy time defending. If you look closely, the only weapon that Canelo really used to beat Plant was the left hook, given how low Plant's right hand usually is.

I was somewhat surprised that Canelo chose to draw out the fight a little bit given his conflict with Plant at the stare-down. I even expected Plant to be a bit more effective with his punches, but he turned out to be worse.

The fight overall was kind of sad; it felt sort of like Canelo's fight with Julio Cesar Chavez Jr, where the opponent really couldn't do much to hurt the other guy. There was even a moment that was exactly same as the one in the Chavez bout where Canelo went to the ropes and tried goading Plant into punching him.

I do give props to Plant for defending whatever Canelo offered, but defense just isn't enough in pro boxing.
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I wouldn't discredit Caleb that much. His Jab is solid, and although I agree he was never in control it gave him breathing room to attempt a right hook. The 5,6,7 he purposely got more aggressive because Canelo had nullified it. Which was a transition that Saunder's or Smith couldn't do, once they got figured out they were done.

I do agree that Caleb had nothing to finish the fight it, but I was expecting less myself. I think Golovkin should've been the last guy for the unification. Otherwise it looked incredibly one sided for a fight of this magnitude and importance.

Instead his path was GGG>Smith>Saunders>Plant.
Should've been Smith>Plant>Saunders>GGG
 
I have to admit, his KO against Woodley was brety gud. Would like to see him in there against a live body one of these days.
 
Complete Reprobate said:
I have to admit, his KO against Woodley was brety gud. Would like to see him in there against a live body one of these days.
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Woodely or Paul?

Woodely's been heemed like that before but that was back in strikeforce against Nate Marquardt in a flash knockout. He went to sleep in this one, and ragdolled. That's not a good thing for someone that wants to start their boxing career at the end of their MMA career. I'm Triller or any other trash souless promotion will pick him up just so they can beat him again. Either way, he should just take his money and walk off.

Jake preformed an excellent shovel hook, and it appeared that Woodely was content with taking a punch to body so he didn't even defend the shovel hook (fyi a shovel hook is a punch where you feint and telegraph a straight to the body, but rotate your hips and back upward so you launch a hook to the face). In any case, that was a very advanced finish, but most of the fight was fairly questionable. Jake not using his jab, and Woodely not pressuring Jake against the ropes (AS THEY CLAIMED THEY WOULD NEED TO BEA T THE OTHER GUY)

Jake's already made his intentions clear. He's made it no secret that he wants the most famous, and least dangerous guy for the most amount of money. So he's laid out his intentions for Nate Diaz, Jorge Masvidal, and possibly Dillon Dannis as a tune up fight. I think Tommy Fury fell through, so that would have to be resurrected.
 
WutangLee said:
So he's laid out his intentions for Nate Diaz, Jorge Masvidal, and possibly Dillon Dannis as a tune up fight. I think Tommy Fury fell through, so that would have to be resurrected.
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Dillon Danis? That guy has no fucking stand up at all lmao. Jesus christ, it'd just be nice to see him fight someone just within the realm of his own weight instead of a bunch of a ballooned up welterweights.

I'd be more interested in seeing him box a shopworn Nick Diaz over Nate.
 
Goyaanisqatsi said:
Dillon Danis? That guy has no fucking stand up at all lmao. Jesus christ, it'd just be nice to see him fight someone just within the realm of his own weight instead of a bunch of a ballooned up welterweights.

I'd be more interested in seeing him box a shopworn Nick Diaz over Nate.
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That's why everyone was saying it was just a tune up fight for Jake not to different from Askren, as opposed to Woodley who was a threat but at a disadvantage. A quick KO to pad Jake's record with someone no one likes. As Michael Bisping has said "the genital wart of MMA news" because no one likes him, but he keeps staying relevant.


I do think Tommy was supposed to be a real prospect to gauge Jake's standing, but Jake doesn't want guys his size or weight who can kill.
 
Goyaanisqatsi said:
Dillon Danis? That guy has no fucking stand up at all lmao. Jesus christ, it'd just be nice to see him fight someone just within the realm of his own weight instead of a bunch of a ballooned up welterweights.

I'd be more interested in seeing him box a shopworn Nick Diaz over Nate.
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Dannis got smoked by a mall cop. Diaz looked shot as fuck against Lawler and would either quit again or get knocked out.
WutangLee said:
That's why everyone was saying it was just a tune up fight for Jake not to different from Askren, as opposed to Woodley who was a threat but at a disadvantage. A quick KO to pad Jake's record with someone no one likes. As Michael Bisping has said "the genital wart of MMA news" because no one likes him, but he keeps staying relevant.


I do think Tommy was supposed to be a real prospect to gauge Jake's standing, but Jake doesn't want guys his size or weight who can kill.
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Tommy is a can crusher. Jake Paul would equally be his biggest test. His whole thing was going on one of these shitty love island sort of tv shows and being Tyson Fury's baby half brother.
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Slimy Time said:
Dannis got smoked by a mall cop. Diaz looked shot as fuck against Lawler and would either quit again or get knocked out.

Tommy is a can crusher. Jake Paul would equally be his biggest test. His whole thing was going on one of these shitty love island sort of tv shows and being Tyson Fury's baby half brother.
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Jake may not be tried and tested as we'd like to believe. But he is the gravy train, and sloppy performance aside. His head coach is still BJ Flores, so we've got something resembling a world class camp so he can find his niche

And holy shit. 10-102? 0-26? 0-11? that's not even can crushing. Those are jabronis.

But overall, I've grown to love these freakshow fights headlining with cards stacked with legit fights. Reminds of Pride in a way.
 
WutangLee said:
Jake may not be tried and tested as we'd like to believe. But he is the gravy train, and sloppy performance aside. His head coach is still BJ Flores, so we've got something resembling a world class camp so he can find his niche

And holy shit. 10-102? 0-26? 0-11? that's not even can crushing. Those are jabronis.

But overall, I've grown to love these freakshow fights headlining with cards stacked with legit fights. Reminds of Pride in a way.
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Jake has that BJ Penn thing going on, where he is wealthy enough already going into the fight game that he can go to this world class gym, train there as required, and doesn't have many/any commitments or financial worries to think about while doing his pet vanity project.

He is also athletic enough to pick up on the basics of boxing enough that he is good enough to win these fights. He's like Pudzianowski in KSW. He's not very good by the standards of boxing/MMA, but he's enough of a name outside fighting and athletic enough that they can sell hype matches against other names and he's expected to knock them out, sloppy as he may look doing it. He knows how to land that right hand and set it up, and it's got enough power to dust people who don't see it coming.
 
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