BDSM

[We Are The Witches]

Why do you open asking about men taking advantage of the "poor women", oh yeah, because you're a men-hate thread poster.

For your information, a fuckload of women are into it, inflicting and receiving it, every time I hear about someone talking about BDSM it's a woman, >95%, and it's because they're a complete degenerate.

They're into it because it plays into their sexual fantasies, it's not rocket science. The "cults" you're talking about are probably like the retards that do polyamory, again, they're just degenerates that mix with each other, fellow degenerates for their sick activities.

None of these people are victims of anything.

 

[Staticness]

I dated a woman into (fairly) light bondage and it was mostly a trust thing. “He has all the power over me and uses it to treat me right.”

Fuck shopping for bondage accessories though (looking at you, fuck you, The Vault, overpriced-ass).

 

[pollution jim]

diddy blud thread

 

[AnsemSoD1]

Why the fuck would you talk about anything sexual on kiwifarms?

You sweet summer child.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Who doesn't love Beautiful Days and Sunny Mornings?

Bottlenose Dolphin Safety Matters?

 

[Otterly]

Not something I’m into. I’m a petite woman and I don’t really need any more reinforcement that most other people could do more damage to me than I could to them.

 

[Unmarkedgrave]

BDSM is overrated. I think pain releases endorphins? So it gets some people off that way with the rush. I kinda get this aspect of it on a physical level.

However, to me BDSM is just an excuse to beat the shit out of someone while aroused. Also the influence of porn has made BDSM more trendy. People don’t have any original thoughts or ideas anymore with anything.

 

[Ibanez RG 350EX]

I dated a woman into (fairly) light bondage and it was mostly a trust thing. “He has all the power over me and uses it to treat me right.”

All that pageantry to confirm something so obvious. If I'm a foot taller and outweigh a woman by a hundred pounds, no shit I have all the power over her. I could beat her to death with one arm tied behind my back and it wouldn't even be hard.

And then the proof that I won't hurt her a lot is my willingness to hurt her a little bit. Women are completely fucking insane.

 

[KifflomKween]

outweigh a woman by a hundred pounds

fat

 

[Ibanez RG 350EX]

fat

A normal woman, not a Kiwi Farms-using woman. I don't weigh 400 pounds.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

Idk if this entire thing is like a bugman concept among more metropolitan breeds, but in saner, more moderate society the only ones I've even heard in passing who were supposedly into BDSM were young women who became convinced in a post-50 shades world that being into bondage was hip, stylish, and subversive.
If a man claimed to be into BDSM I'd naturally assume he was a weasel and sexual deviant, quite possibly a rapist.

Also the other users are correct, nature already included BDSM dynamics by making males larger and stronger.

Is this the type of shit real people engage in? They just sit around telling each other about the types of unnatural sex they enjoy? When they meet for the first time, do they hand out business cards telling each other their pronouns and whether they're a top or bottom? The only reason I can even confirm some of my friends have sex at all is because they produced children.

This stuff isn't natural or normal, you're hanging out with morons who buy into the garbage they read online.

 

[MrJokerRager]

 

[Max Caulfield]

1. Is it just an excuse for sadistic men to get laid while beating the shit out of a mentally ill woman?

It is for me.

 

[AMHOLIO]

The amount of cults that devolve into sex shit is high. I think we need scientists to analyze that. It makes sense that some sex shit devolves into cult stuff.

I'm guessing part of it is language and explaining a culture to people. Like, if you're having relationship problems with your partner, you can tell that to others in simple terms. In a medium to heavy BDSM relationship, you have to go over like fifty fucking rules and define terms and shit. Then you get defensive and insecure because someone questions your boner. It's accidentally isolating. When people isolate, they get weird cultural quirks that can turn into weird cultural problems fast. It's the toaster fucker problem.

Control is another problem. Cult leaders are about control, and cult inductees are usually people looking for a fix to a problem they can't shake or a hole in their identity. They're willing to be manipulated because they want to be or are open to it because they don't know how to fix their life. "I want someone to dom and control me" and "I want to control and dom someone" end up becoming the thought pattern.

I agree people into light stuff likely aren't always trying to insert subtle hints about their fetish/sex lifr everywhere. Sex pests, exhibitionists, hedonists, etc are more likely to yell from the treetops about it.

 

[Staticness]

All that pageantry to confirm something so obvious. If I'm a foot taller and outweigh a woman by a hundred pounds, no shit I have all the power over her. I could beat her to death with one arm tied behind my back and it wouldn't even be hard.

And then the proof that I won't hurt her a lot is my willingness to hurt her a little bit. Women are completely fucking insane.

The difference is that you could rough up any woman on the street effortlessly. This is a woman who trusts you enough to have arranged privacy and everything. Yeah you could body someone. That's not the point. The point is that it's someone consensually placing themselves under your power in a very personal situation.

 

[KifflomKween]

1NUDNzRrFqikFSfP.mp4

 

[Troon_Patrol]

Oh boy, a chance to earn my degeneracy likes for the month!

IMHO...

People who aren't coomers, actually doing things with other people IRL.

BDSM is a wide umbrella term. The submissive women are typically mild sexual abuse survivors. You'll notice a lot of signs of past physiological trauma and self harm like cutting scars or abandonment/daddy issues. The film "Secretary" in 2002 really nails this as close as a movie can. My .02 they are trying relive this subconsciously. They can be incredibly codependent and not neccisary below average IQ but completely incapable of handling confrontation in the slightest and need a guide on call 24/7. The rest seem to be sexually ignored for many different reasons and went down the rabbit hole of adult marketed anime or just porn till they hit the taboo, the kind of girl who doesn't lose her virginity till shes 22-23 kind of deal. 50 shades of Grey is a terrible film, with a terrible script, whit a terrible plot and terrible actors. A woman said something hilarious to me, "If the male figure in that movie wasn't rich and handsome it would just be a horror film or a movie about sexual assault".

I can't speak for all women I've known. I can say all feminism after the second wave is 100% bullshit/mistake and more than half of them get hot over the idea some attractive guy scooping them up carrying them to the bedroom tossing them on the bed ripping their clothes off. Now in the year 2025 this sounds a lot like the definition of "rape" according to the woke types as no legal documents were signed and notarized prior to this. Again, why do half of all women gush at the idea? It's bordering on sadomasochism if not just outright sadomasochism.

The dominant women are usually the BPD type and just see a formula treat men bad=money/resources. There's also some sexual trauma reverse victim complexes sometimes, if you yell at them they way their father did or the father they never knew they break down crying, it's all a defense mechanism to retake what they lost or never had. Some are just mean cunts I don't have an explanation for.


imho roughly 50/50 Sexually dominant men tend to either be ambitious aggressive types, bosses of small to large companies ball breakers like attorneys/cops and they view relationships the same way they are in charge in their careers, they want the same out of their relationships. (google cops and domestic violence stats, especially female cops and domestic violence stats sometime) They want a bang-maid, some women totally happy to be the bang maid for a guy making 100-150K yearly. The other half are just fucking losers who thing think it's a cheat code because they lack charisma or physical attraction to get laid or hold a real relationship. Going to the Gym or learning how to dress properly or just start a conversation is beyond them or just their willpower.


Submissive men mainly fall into two categories: The high stress day-trader, now crypto-trader types, high pressure sales, people who work 16 hour days and make critical decisions. Who instead of shooting up the office, they go pay some girl to work them over and turn off all critical thinking for an hour or whatever. Category two are Simps on steroids who should just be euthanized. Like literally fucking SSDI recipients giving it all away to some hoe in a pleather outfit they never even fuck.


I make no judgement as long as people meet my criteria:

#1 you sending my tax dollars to some whore in a cheap outfit? Fuck you, kill yourself.
#2 Just keep in the bedroom or appropriate club or private degeneracy themed house party.
#3 Consenting adults. You are walking a fine line already here. If shes under 18, it's you're moral obligation to let whosoever in charge of dating app, bouncer at the club, person running the houseparty she has no place being there. Again consent, nobody wants to see your sexual fetishes played out on public so unless it's 2005 and your some goth hoe leave the dog collar at home, ok? Nobody asked to see that at the grocery store. Drunk and or high? Goodbye!



Prime example of batshit crazy, possibly BPD, sociopath something...IDK. Emma "mattress hoe" Sulkawitz, famous for requesting rough sex, crying rape afterwards and trying to destroy some guys life. She's followed this by doing soft core BDSM porn she called " performance art"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Sulkowicz

"Dominatrix" confronted by conservative traditional Christian professional debater / agitator, Andrew Wilson. This is mostly SFW but, fairly cringe as she mentally collapses into tears when challenged on her morals of what she does for a living or something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uumu3aIZcTw&t=360s

Now I believe I am owed some degeneracy stickers....?

 

[Ewan McGregor]

1. Is it just an excuse for sadistic men to get laid while beating the shit out of a mentally ill woman?

Yes, this is well documented.

Self-reported pedophilic arousal and behaviors (specific to fantasizing about or acting on sexual behaviors with infants or children) were examined in those who indicated interests in age play (specific to fantasizing about acting on sexual behaviors with consenting adults that choose to engage in roleplay). The purpose was to test stereotypes suggesting that people interested in age play are often more interested in pedophilia, but choose to act on age play instead due to legal constraints.

Women with BPD practiced BDSM more often (last year: 34% vs. 15%; lifetime: 51% vs. 23%) which was associated with more autonomous, self-determined forms of sexual motivation but at the same time associated with higher BPD symptoms and risky sexuality.

Dominants scored significantly higher than submissives on desire for control, extraversion, self-esteem, and life satisfaction. Submissives scored significantly higher than dominants on emotionality. Dominants and submissives did not differ on empathy, honesty-humility, conscientiousness, openness to experience, altruism, or agreeableness. These findings demonstrate that there are unique features that characterize BDSM practitioners who prefer the dominant and submissive orientations.

In fact, on measures of clinical psychopathology and severe personality pathology, this sample appeared to be comparable to both published test norms and to DSM-IV-TR estimates for the general population. There were, however, some exceptions to this general pattern, most notably the higher-than-average levels of narcissism and nonspecific dissociative symptoms found in the sample. This study also raises significant concern about the appropriateness of the diagnosis of sexual masochism and sadism in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychiatric Association or, minimally, the diagnostic criteria of these disorders.

I find it extremely interesting that research conducted on the matter before 2014-ish lights a more negative light on BDSM practitioners, highlighting high levels of Cluster B personality disorders, whereas research conducted after 2014ish pretty much seems to conclude that kink is perfectly normal and that its practitioners are, on average, better people. I found one extremely interesting that emphasized the lack of difference in Narcissism between dominants and submissives, but skipped over the comparison with the general population.

2. Why do troons and gays like it so much? Though gays are notorious for being gross they don't inflict even a fraction of the violence and degradation on each other that women in the scene are inflicted.

Women and LGBT are disproportionately high on Cluster B personality disorders and Autism. Especially, the T overlaps a lot with autism.

3. Why is the kink scene so culty? There's even cults that revolve around this stuff.

For the same reason all those minorities have become cultish. They see it as an existential threat being a minority.

4. Why do kink people always seem to think they have some profound insight into everyone else and that everyone around them is secretly into kink and just isn't enlightened like they are?

"You hate spiders? You must secretly want to fuck spiders"

5. Can it actually help someone mentally or is it like giving coccaine and a platform to an addict?

Generally, they're trainwrecks, and there's plenty of evidence in this very forum.

6. Why do women think it's empowering to have some beat the shit out of them?

Not a lot of women think that, only a certain kind of feminist is into femdom. Most women are into being submissive, which they do not necessarily like.

7. Why are kinky people so loud and insufferable?

See answer 3.

8. When they say thag this stuff is only in the bedroom and can't possibly bleed are they lying to get away with being cunts or do they genuinely believe this is true?

They are full of bullshit, but they need some semblance of ethics for themselves.

warning: Reading about him or merely about what he wrote may be NSFL.

Actually a very interesting read.

Why the fuck would you talk about anything sexual on kiwifarms?

When are we not talking about sexual stuff? It's either that or politics.

For your information, a fuckload of women are into it, inflicting and receiving it, every time I hear about someone talking about BDSM it's a woman, >95%, and it's because they're a complete degenerate.

It's a very specific kind of woman.

Not something I’m into

Thanks for the info.

 

[Waffle Iron]

Whenever I read about SM it seems everyone involved has abuse trauma. With bondage everyone involved seems to have problems with setting boundaries. That said I can see the appeal of the lighter aspects. Like a blindfold or fuzzy cuffs. Fear is a negative emotion, but people still like horror movies. Loss of control is a negative state, but in a safe environment is can give a kick.

Not something I’m into. I’m a petite woman and I don’t really need any more reinforcement that most other people could do more damage to me than I could to them.

Well, you could tie your husband up so he is the one in a physically disadvantaged position.

 

[Perfectly Innocent]

Spoiler: TL;DR

TL;DR: Sociology. Everyone else has already said what needs to be said from an individual or psychological perspective.

1. The term means different things to different people, and what people do changes with age and experience. The only common factor is that it's roleplay with physical, psychological, sexual and emotional elements. It's worth noting that plenty of people don't assume a fixed role and instead swap between them ("switching").
2. Studies suggest gay people are just into different things compared to straight men. Nothing suggests they necessarily enjoy BDSM any more or any less, just differently.
3. Welcome to the wonderful world of subcultures! The key difference is that there's no supreme leader (at most, a few notable people who maybe get idolised)
4. [See #3] subcultures have (or believe they have) specific insights which normies (aka. the out-group) lack, if they didn't, there wouldn't be a subculture to critique
5. In the same way shrooms, cannabis, alcohol (and many other substances) when used appropriately, can also be beneficial to mental health (to borrow the analogy)
6. Freedom of expression forms the basis for free speech. Having the freedom to consent, and act (or be acted upon) by said consent, is an important part of free expression. Regarding women in BDSM, feminists still debate the idea, but many argue having women having full bodily autonomy is empowering (and generally, it is, there's no denying that).
7. [See #3] this is called resistance. This can take the form of everything from pushing specific aesthetics (in-group signalling, often as a show of support) to promulgating narratives designed to shock the (out-group) mainstream into being less resistant to the values/beliefs of the subculture itself (desensitisation being used as a tool of gradual normalisation).
8. [See #3] Subcultures create and share their own norms/values and often what's told to in-group often differs from what's told to out-group. Behind closed doors there will be plenty in-group who do consent to things which carry the risk of physical injuries. Knowing that even vanilla, missionary sex can cause bleeding, anyone telling you BDSM doesn't potentially include acts which may cause bleeding is either a liar, an idiot, or both (refer to SSC and RISK within the context of BDSM, both are in-group terms).

I'd say do some more research and have fun with it. Don't fall into the trap of adopting a fixed or closed mindset in relation to any subculture, no matter how unusual it may seem at first, because most of what we see in mainstream culture today originated from integrating, adapting (and in some cases straight up adopting) the norms and values of a great many past (and present) subcultures.