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Ben Franklin was raised a Puritan, and considered a career in the clergy. As he matured, I'd call him more of a Freethinker.
He did, however, work a lot with Quakers in Philadelphia.
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Ben Franklin was raised a Puritan, and considered a career in the clergy. As he matured, I'd call him more of a Freethinker.
He did, however, work a lot with Quakers in Philadelphia.
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"Stock" as in he has the prefab figures a la Timbo.
Those guys had assistants. Even if it's just someone to set the type and apply flat colors, it speeds things up.
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Yeah, I edited my post to reflect that. Looking back, it did seem out of character for a religion known for pacifism to beat someone.
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Most of the modern 3-panel comics have teams and are not one-man operations. The move to 3-panel gags and a quarterpage on sunday was newspapers cutting costs and had nothing to do with creators burning out. Also both Cocaine and Narcotics were available over the counter during Little Nemo's run, and I'll let you draw your own conclusions about that and artistic output.
also even the OG full-page valiant sundays used a lot of Ol' Timey photoshop tricks.
And if you'd have just lifted up your hand a little bit, you'd have caught it...
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Hey, I remember this! I didn't think it was too bad at first either, but man did it ever get stupid. I still see true & honest fanart for it floating around sometimes; people tend to drop their standards as long as something has yaoi in it.
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I think one mistake was making Linneus and Atros an endgame relationship given how dysfunctional it is (I liked Linneus more with Gilder anyway). Then again, a lot of the relationships are a mess. It's too bad since the art is really nice.
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Speaking of Last Res0rt, it didn't survive the BWCW transition. But it does, for some really inexplicable reason, have a TVTropes entry. The art has not gotten much better since the above example from 2012, aside from more snazzy shoop effects I guess?
I tried to like it when it first got started, but pretty much everything about it just bothers me. The weird sludgy facial structures, the random 0 in the title, the clunky plotlines. The artist tries, at least. She even made an appearance on the old BWCW forum to offer help to new readers trying to break into the comic, which is more than can be said for most badcomic creators.
Then a few years ago she moved to the PNW and has gone highly political and become a fairly middle of the road genderblob. I have no idea how she interacts with her fans these days, but to her credit, the comic is still plugging along, at least as of December 2020.
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"My body doesn't need a reminder about what its supposed to be doing" FFS. Your body is doing what its supposed to be doing. You are fucking up you body trying to cosplay as a woman you performative circus freak.
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Y'know, in retrospect, the fact that he draws his characters with relatively detailed hairdos and clothing but with exceptionally simple and inexpressive faces - the exact opposite of the way a normal human being splits their attention - should have been a really big clue that Greg was autistic. His "transition," of course, leaves no doubts.
Y'know, in retrospect, the fact that he draws his characters with relatively detailed hairdos and clothing but with exceptionally simple and inexpressive faces - the exact opposite of the way a normal human being splits their attention - should have been a really big clue that Greg was autistic. His "transition," of course, leaves no doubts.
BScCollateral
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Nah, a lot of cartoon art uses hair to distinguish characters. There's usually the blond one, the brunette one, the one with long hair...
Heck, South Park had a joke about it.
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It's not that. It's just that the hair and backgrounds are something he only really needed to draw once. (Well, a few more times during his transition, but we'll get to that.) Each character has but one hair sprite, which he doesn't even change to match the lighting conditions. Notice how the long strand that comes past his ear often hangs a few degrees from the vertical when he tilts his head.
Faces would require a lot more work however. You can of course make the argument that comic readers prefer a more simply drawn face because of the uncanny valley and you think reading Scott McCloud makes you an expert in comics. That may be true some of the time, but Greg's faces are so simple, even by comic book standards. The real reason here is much more obvious: pure laziness.
In order to do the bare minimum to convince people his characters aren't lifeless cardboard cutouts, he realised he at least had to move the faces from one panel to the next. Conveying the subtleties of a facial expression every time he did this makes it even more difficult. But since Greg Dean can't draw (something he realised back in '99 when he started "drawing" people in this exact style, sans the colours and shading), this meant it would be too difficult to do 8 different faces for a single-page conversation between two people.
So he made six small shapes in Adobe Illustrator (ah, who am I kidding? He probably used Inkscape), and has been using the same 3/4 profile face ever since.
(Notice how the mouth moves subtly between all of these)
Only three of which need to be moved in order to change a facial expression, and sometimes just one. Notice how the eyebrows aren't even there except for in panels where he needs to look puzzled, surprised, or frustrated.
Tim B^Uckley has got nothing on this.
Meanwhile, the hair.
It looks like Greg's been trying to make the change happen gradually, and this was his best attempt.
"Relatively detailed" is pushing it just a bit.
There are six hair sprites total that he's drawn for the character. And when the time was right, one of them would be swapped out for another.
Usually this would line up with a scene change, which at least implied the passage of time. But for the last one, it looks like he gave up on continuity and made it happen in the middle of a scene where he's trying on dresses with Liz: January 15th's comic, and the next comic after it.
Also, the iPhone prop on his desk hadn't been updated since the iPhone 4. Still there in 2020, but it seems to have been gotten rid of in the most recent desk shots.
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The virgin :^V face vs. The Chad B^U face
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Not really a shock. The guy still has has a share to digg link on every page of the site. Not to mention this still being part of the site design, which is uhh also pretty out of date:
This is what got me about the Comic Sans thing. If Comic Sans is a spiritual match for anything at all, it's these low-effort clip art collages. The gall of this dope thinking he can make an appeal to professionalism with his steak chef analogy. Let's consider another analogy: What if a professional comic strip artist saw what this guy thinks passes for a comic?
It's hard to judge anybody just for making low effort content, even if it's for decades and even if they make it their career somehow. The judging comes when the guy making low effort content himself gets judgemental about other things being low effort or unprofessional, even in abstract.
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True & Honest Fan
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Haven't been in here for a while, not sure if this guy has been shared.
Meet Bart de Graaf and his strip "BartsComics."
Saw this being shared around the other day:
Well okay, groomer...
And so I went to his page and found this:
You didn't get bullied, dude. You're a pedophile.
Then he posts this as a response:
Again, you didn't "offend" people. You're a pedophile.
Looking into the guy, he's a 50 year old gay Dutch guy with hundreds of creepy comics like this. It was called "Bart & Mark" for a while when he was married. He's divorced now. There are kids in the comic who hang out with him, but they're not his or his husband's. They're just kids for the sake of having little kids hanging out with his self-insert. Okay...
He's not American, but will NOT shut up about Trump. Still.
He's also literally a fucking Soyjak:
Pure soy.
The "love is love" phone cover is a nice touch, since a lot of his stuff is outright hateful.
Also posts shit like this:
Here's one of his most recent:
Yes he did get zucc'd for posting a pic of his ass on Facebook.
Like Sophie Labelle, he's also trying his hand at drawing x-rated comics in his horrible style. This one is him fucking one of his Facebook fans:
There's tons more where this came from. This guy is definitely a bit of a cow, especially now that he's starting to attract some attention.
Meet Bart de Graaf and his strip "BartsComics."
Saw this being shared around the other day:
Well okay, groomer...
And so I went to his page and found this:
You didn't get bullied, dude. You're a pedophile.
Then he posts this as a response:
Again, you didn't "offend" people. You're a pedophile.
Looking into the guy, he's a 50 year old gay Dutch guy with hundreds of creepy comics like this. It was called "Bart & Mark" for a while when he was married. He's divorced now. There are kids in the comic who hang out with him, but they're not his or his husband's. They're just kids for the sake of having little kids hanging out with his self-insert. Okay...
He's not American, but will NOT shut up about Trump. Still.
He's also literally a fucking Soyjak:
Pure soy.
The "love is love" phone cover is a nice touch, since a lot of his stuff is outright hateful.
Also posts shit like this:
Here's one of his most recent:
Yes he did get zucc'd for posting a pic of his ass on Facebook.
Like Sophie Labelle, he's also trying his hand at drawing x-rated comics in his horrible style. This one is him fucking one of his Facebook fans:
There's tons more where this came from. This guy is definitely a bit of a cow, especially now that he's starting to attract some attention.
About me - Barts Comics
Hello! My name is Bart de Graaf, and I was born on December 15, 1970 in Amersfoort, a beautiful ancient town in the middle of the Netherlands. I’ve been living there ever since. I’m not a professional artist, I’m a bus driver. I’ve been drawing comics for as long as I can remember. On a […]
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Haven't been in here for a while, not sure if this guy has been shared.
Meet Bart de Graaf and his strip "BartsComics."
Saw this being shared around the other day:
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Well okay, groomer...
And so I went to his page and found this:
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You didn't get bullied, dude. You're a pedophile.
Then he posts this as a response:
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Again, you didn't "offend" people. You're a pedophile.
Looking into the guy, he's a 50 year old gay Dutch guy with hundreds of creepy comics like this. It was called "Bart & Mark" for a while when he was married. He's divorced now. There are kids in the comic who hang out with him, but they're not his or his husband's. They're just kids for the sake of having little kids hanging out with his self-insert. Okay...
He's not American, but will NOT shut up about Trump. Still.
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He's also literally a fucking Soyjak:
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Pure soy.
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The "love is love" phone cover is a nice touch, since a lot of his stuff is outright hateful.
Also posts shit like this:
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Here's one of his most recent:
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Yes he did get zucc'd for posting a pic of his ass on Facebook.
Like Sophie Labelle, he's also trying his hand at drawing x-rated comics in his horrible style. This one is him fucking one of his Facebook fans:
There's tons more where this came from. This guy is definitely a bit of a cow, especially now that he's starting to attract some attention.
About me - Barts Comics
Hello! My name is Bart de Graaf, and I was born on December 15, 1970 in Amersfoort, a beautiful ancient town in the middle of the Netherlands. I’ve been living there ever since. I’m not a professional artist, I’m a bus driver. I’ve been drawing comics for as long as I can remember. On a […]bartscomics.com
This is a great post that shows a terrible on every level comic and creator.
But I also hate you now.
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Back in 2007, some friends of mine and I discovered a yaoi horror webcomic called Torment that somehow got posted to the old comicgenesis site for a suprisingly long time before the creators decided to continue it on a now dead webpage, and it quickly became our own personal shock cringe page, particularly the image with the demon guy riding a spiked dildo a'la 1guy1jar. The art wasn't great, the story and content were horrific and the art style and characters were clearly heavily inspired by the Hellsing manga, jumping between grotesque attempts at edgy pseudo-realism and lol so randumbXD 2000s chibi shit.
Warnings for incest, necrophillia, guro, and mid 2000s yaoi.
Also, there was another comic they worked with alongside this one called Sentium that was about a teenage mental case being sexually groomed by his doctor. It's still viewable through Torment's page. Ye been warned.
Warnings for incest, necrophillia, guro, and mid 2000s yaoi.
Also, there was another comic they worked with alongside this one called Sentium that was about a teenage mental case being sexually groomed by his doctor. It's still viewable through Torment's page. Ye been warned.
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I'm good, but thank you for your service.