Culture Austria no longer has a Catholic majority

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By Balázs Bárány
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In traditionally Catholic Austria, the Roman Catholic Church has lost its majority of the population. This was expected to happen in the fall of 2024, but recent figures for 2023 suggest that it already occurred in the summer. With a high number of departures, the Church lost nearly two percent of its former members in a single year and slightly more than one percent of the entire Austrian population.

Yesterday, the Roman Catholic Church in Austria published its statistics for the previous year. The number of departures in 2023 was 85,163, the third-highest value on record, slightly below the record of the previous year (90,975). The total loss is made up of departures, the deficit between baptisms and deaths, as well as migration movements.

By the end of 2023, there were thus 94,243 fewer Roman Catholics in Austria than at the end of 2022, which corresponds to 1.99 percent of the previous figure.

On its statistics page, the Church presents the decline as 1.9 percent, which is either the result of incorrect rounding or an error that would be penalized in any math test: the rounded numbers given there do indeed result in this percentage decrease when they are used instead of the correct numbers.

In its publication, the Church avoids comparing its figures with the overall Austrian population. According to the official population figures from Statistics Austria, at the end of 2022, 52 percent of Austria's population was Roman Catholic, and this share dropped to 50.6 percent within a year. It is not difficult to conclude that this share will fall below 50 percent during 2024.

The previous forecasts, based on the figures up to 2022, used a weighted average of the losses from the past three years to make a cautious projection for the period afterward. This turned out to be somewhat too cautious, as the losses in 2023 were about one-tenth higher than predicted by this simple model.

With the release of the 2023 figures, the forecast of when the Catholic population would fall below half was improved. If the outflow has not significantly changed during the first part of 2024, then it happened in July 2024: the Roman Catholic share of the population in Austria fell below 50 percent.

Slightly more or fewer departures could shift this date by a few weeks forward or backward, but by mid to late September 2024, we can confidently say that Austria is no longer majority Catholic.


Membership recruitment is not working

The decline in membership also affects other key indicators of church life.

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The diagram shows the three stages of children's and youths' connection to the church over time. Baptisms of young children, who are not yet able to make the decision for themselves, fell below 40,000 for the first time, aside from the COVID year of 2020.

The church's narrative attributes this "primarily" to demographic trends, but the fact remains that the proportion of baptized newborns decreases year by year.

This decline is also noticeable, with some delay, in First Communions (at age 8) and Confirmations (at age 14), with their numbers, and thus the connection to the institution, consistently falling, except for the unique pandemic year of 2020.

This is not surprising, as the secularization of parents increasingly shields children from contact with the church. Children who are not baptized and teenagers who consciously opt out of Confirmation generally do not become church taxpayers.


Money from Members and Non-Members

The church's income rose slightly in 2023, from 500 million euros (2022) to 511 million euros. This is an increase of 2.2 percent, which is well below the inflation rate, meaning the nominal growth corresponds to a real value loss. Despite budget cuts, the majority of dioceses still managed to report a slight surplus.

Also helpful were the so-called "reparations" from the state, which increased from 55.7 to 61.5 million euros, along with rental and lease revenues, which rose from 27.5 to 30.9 million euros.

How much longer the Republic of Austria will continue to make these payments, which were introduced when the Catholic population share was well over 90 percent, will likely become a topic of discussion in the new Austria, where Catholics are now a minority.

Due to the difficult economic situation, expenditures had to be more focused on the organization’s internal purposes. Thus, it is not surprising that spending on "Social and Charitable Tasks" and "Global Church and Development Aid" decreased both in absolute terms and as a percentage of total expenditures.

These are the categories the church often presents as its contribution to the public good, but together they account for only 4 percent of its total expenses (2.5 percent for social tasks and 1.5 percent for development aid in 2023). Combined, they don't even make up half of the state payments – the Republic of Austria could put this amount to better use.

Starting in 2025, the upper limit for the tax deductibility of church contributions will be raised from 400 to 600 euros. This only affects higher earners, meaning the state will lose out on a few more million euros in taxes. Unfortunately, there has been no consideration yet of a secularization fund, which could wisely allocate the tax funds freed up by those who leave the church.


Professional Catholics

Once again, the number of priests declined more sharply than that of members, from 3,403 (2022) to 3,320. This represents a decrease of 2.4 percent. The number of "permanent deacons"—unordained assistants for parish duties—also fell. This marks a change from recent years, which had been characterized by steady growth.


New Developments in Church Departures

In the summer of 2024, Upper Austria, the last remaining federal state, was convinced to allow online church departures. Whether this will lead to an increase in the number of departures remains to be seen.
 
It has happened, but it's an overblown issue that isn't happening as much as rightoids claim. Gender theory has freed people from traditional gender norms and expectations which has been a good thing for people who never fit them to begin with.
you'd be surprised how vastly miniscule this population of people is
 
People on your "country" can go to jail because they refused to utter a troons prefered pronouns
Basic respect of other people isn't too much to ask for. You wouldn't call them a different name than the one they told you either.
they can have their child taken away from them because they said that their little girl is actually a girl
In theory, but not in practice. If your child claims to be trans/gay/whatever and you try to do conversion therapy on them you deserve to have them taken away before you traumatize them for life.
Trooning out before 18 won't either, but the results are "better"
Jazz Jennings largely disproves this. Medical transition should be a last resort for adults and most transpeople only ever socially transition.
 
Basic respect of other people isn't too much to ask for. You wouldn't call them a different name than the one they told you either.
I will call them like I fucking please. If call a guy named Barry "William" if it is a problem between he and me if he takes issue with that. The goverment stepping in and jailing me because I have to respect Barry's feelings because he felt offended is pure lunacy.

In theory, but not in practice. If your child claims to be trans/gay/whatever and you try to do conversion therapy on them you deserve to have them taken away before you traumatize them for life.
Tooning them out is the conversion therapy, no such thing as trans children exist.

Jazz Jennings largely disproves this. Medical transition should be a last resort for adults and most transpeople only ever socially transition.
So the guy who has to literally dilate his rotpocket until he dies and looks like a bloated meatball is an example of success? Get fucked
 
So the guy who has to literally dilate his rotpocket until he dies and looks like a bloated meatball is an example of success? Get fucked
This is exactly the opposite of what I claimed. This was a reading comprehension failure on your part.
The goverment stepping in and jailing me because I have to respect Barry's feelings because he felt offended is pure lunacy.
You shouldn't be allowed to harass Barry endlessly once he corrects you and you know his proper name.
Tooning them out is the conversion therapy, no such thing as trans children exist.
It isn't "trooning out" a child if they come to the conclusion themselves. I already hear you saying "but teaching them trans people exist is converting them" and I must stop you there because that's a retarded argument. Teaching that gay and trans people exist doesn't turn children into those things.
 
This is exactly the opposite of what I claimed. This was a reading comprehension failure on your part.
I said that trooning them out before 18 works "better" as in, not at all. How is you affirming that it indeed doesn't work disprove what I said?

You shouldn't be allowed to harass Barry endlessly once he corrects you and you know his proper name.
That's a problem between me and Barry. Being unkind to someone is not a crime, and if it is, it shouldn't only apply to troons.

It isn't "trooning out" a child if they come to the conclusion themselves. I already hear you saying "but teaching them trans people exist is converting them" and I must stop you there because that's a retarded argument. Teaching that gay and trans people exist doesn't turn children into those things.
They never come to that conclusion by themselves. It is aggressively pushed by social media, the news, the schools, and sometimes even their own parents. Nothing more
 
Being unkind to someone is not a crime
If you consistently call Barry by a name he doesn't want to be called that becomes harassment.
They never come to that conclusion by themselves. It is aggressively pushed by social media, the news, the schools, and sometimes even their own parents. Nothing more
Some children do indeed identify differently as a phase, but most don't. Telling them that gay and trans people exist isn't "pushing it" but I understand that anything short of stringing minority people up is too far left for rightoids.
 
If you consistently call Barry by a name he doesn't want to be called that becomes harassment.
Then why does a law exist specifically to protect troons? Wouldn't the normal laws aganist harassment already cover that? That's right, they don't, and thus a new law has to be made to protect troons.

Some children do indeed identify differently as a phase, but most don't. Telling them that gay and trans people exist isn't "pushing it" but I understand that anything short of stringing minority people up is too far left for rightoids.
Fags exist, but troons don't, and you know that they don't simply "tell them that they exist". Impressive that your kind get so worked up by residential schools but allows groomers to openly be around kids
 
Then why does a law exist specifically to protect troons?
Because transsexuals are a minority group are we generally afford minority groups extra protections given historical issues they've faced with the legal system denying them justice.
Fags exist, but troons don't, and you know that they don't simply "tell them that they exist".
Transsexuals do exist and I personally know some. Rightoids consider even acknowledging their existence to be "going to far" so I'm not inclined to debate you on this point any further. You hate that transpeople exist and you would be quite happy to hide the fact transpeople exist from children...all the while teaching them to believe in a fake deity that is quite happy to literally torture them in the so called "afterlife".
 
Because transsexuals are a minority group are we generally afford minority groups extra protections given historical issues they've faced with the legal system denying them justice.
What about people like injuns, then?

Transsexuals do exist and I personally know some. Rightoids consider even acknowledging their existence to be "going to far" so I'm not inclined to debate you on this point any further.
They exist insofar as they are a people with a mental illness that makes them believe they are of the opposite sex. They are neither a sexual identity or state of a person.

You hate that transpeople exist and you would be quite happy to hide the fact transpeople exist from children...all the while teaching the to believe in a fake deity.
The True & Honest tranime pfp. You "love" to see it. Also, isn't the Lain fandom filled with troons? Are you one of them?
 
What about people like injuns, then?
I am not taking any stance on the natives in this topic. If you were Canadian and knew anything about our laws you would know that in modern times what I said applies to them as well.
They exist insofar as they are a people with a mental illness that makes them believe they are of the opposite sex. They are neither a sexual identity or state of a person
Transgenderism isn't a sexual identity it's a gender identity. If you want me to take you seriously at least pretend to understand what you're speaking about.
The True & Honest tranime pfp. You "love" to see it. Also, isn't the Lain fandom filled with troons? Are you one of them?
You're calling me out for having an anime pfp? You have one as well.
 
I am not taking any stance on the natives in this topic. If you were Canadian and knew anything about our laws you would know that in modern times what I said applies to them as well.
Why would they need a specific law for them, then? Shouldn't a law that encompasses all minority groups be enough already?

Transgenderism isn't a sexual identity it's a gender identity. If you want me to take you seriously at least pretend to understand what you're speaking about.
"Gender" is a meaningless word whose modern conception was created by a pedophile with the sole purpouse of not using the word "sex" because it sounded too crass at the time. Gender identities by extension don't exist either
 
You are nitpicking what I'm saying, ignoring other parts, and trying to reframe the discussion. I won't engage with you further if you keep using bad faith tactics.
And you are ignoring the biological reality that men can't be women and women can't be men.

You're calling me out for having an anime pfp? You have one as well.
I know, but I don't like troons, nor is NGE known for having troon fans (too many fags, sadly)
 
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Biological sex can't be changed, but birth gender can be.
Just because you write a different thing on a paper doesn't make it happen. If I change my DOB from 1990 to 1991 I don't become a year younger.

They're different things, educate yourself.
This has to be trolling. A man that acts like an (and I feel sick from using this word) SWJ from 2016 can't have an account here that over a year old
 
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