Culture Austria no longer has a Catholic majority

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By Balázs Bárány
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In traditionally Catholic Austria, the Roman Catholic Church has lost its majority of the population. This was expected to happen in the fall of 2024, but recent figures for 2023 suggest that it already occurred in the summer. With a high number of departures, the Church lost nearly two percent of its former members in a single year and slightly more than one percent of the entire Austrian population.

Yesterday, the Roman Catholic Church in Austria published its statistics for the previous year. The number of departures in 2023 was 85,163, the third-highest value on record, slightly below the record of the previous year (90,975). The total loss is made up of departures, the deficit between baptisms and deaths, as well as migration movements.

By the end of 2023, there were thus 94,243 fewer Roman Catholics in Austria than at the end of 2022, which corresponds to 1.99 percent of the previous figure.

On its statistics page, the Church presents the decline as 1.9 percent, which is either the result of incorrect rounding or an error that would be penalized in any math test: the rounded numbers given there do indeed result in this percentage decrease when they are used instead of the correct numbers.

In its publication, the Church avoids comparing its figures with the overall Austrian population. According to the official population figures from Statistics Austria, at the end of 2022, 52 percent of Austria's population was Roman Catholic, and this share dropped to 50.6 percent within a year. It is not difficult to conclude that this share will fall below 50 percent during 2024.

The previous forecasts, based on the figures up to 2022, used a weighted average of the losses from the past three years to make a cautious projection for the period afterward. This turned out to be somewhat too cautious, as the losses in 2023 were about one-tenth higher than predicted by this simple model.

With the release of the 2023 figures, the forecast of when the Catholic population would fall below half was improved. If the outflow has not significantly changed during the first part of 2024, then it happened in July 2024: the Roman Catholic share of the population in Austria fell below 50 percent.

Slightly more or fewer departures could shift this date by a few weeks forward or backward, but by mid to late September 2024, we can confidently say that Austria is no longer majority Catholic.


Membership recruitment is not working

The decline in membership also affects other key indicators of church life.

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The diagram shows the three stages of children's and youths' connection to the church over time. Baptisms of young children, who are not yet able to make the decision for themselves, fell below 40,000 for the first time, aside from the COVID year of 2020.

The church's narrative attributes this "primarily" to demographic trends, but the fact remains that the proportion of baptized newborns decreases year by year.

This decline is also noticeable, with some delay, in First Communions (at age 8) and Confirmations (at age 14), with their numbers, and thus the connection to the institution, consistently falling, except for the unique pandemic year of 2020.

This is not surprising, as the secularization of parents increasingly shields children from contact with the church. Children who are not baptized and teenagers who consciously opt out of Confirmation generally do not become church taxpayers.


Money from Members and Non-Members

The church's income rose slightly in 2023, from 500 million euros (2022) to 511 million euros. This is an increase of 2.2 percent, which is well below the inflation rate, meaning the nominal growth corresponds to a real value loss. Despite budget cuts, the majority of dioceses still managed to report a slight surplus.

Also helpful were the so-called "reparations" from the state, which increased from 55.7 to 61.5 million euros, along with rental and lease revenues, which rose from 27.5 to 30.9 million euros.

How much longer the Republic of Austria will continue to make these payments, which were introduced when the Catholic population share was well over 90 percent, will likely become a topic of discussion in the new Austria, where Catholics are now a minority.

Due to the difficult economic situation, expenditures had to be more focused on the organization’s internal purposes. Thus, it is not surprising that spending on "Social and Charitable Tasks" and "Global Church and Development Aid" decreased both in absolute terms and as a percentage of total expenditures.

These are the categories the church often presents as its contribution to the public good, but together they account for only 4 percent of its total expenses (2.5 percent for social tasks and 1.5 percent for development aid in 2023). Combined, they don't even make up half of the state payments – the Republic of Austria could put this amount to better use.

Starting in 2025, the upper limit for the tax deductibility of church contributions will be raised from 400 to 600 euros. This only affects higher earners, meaning the state will lose out on a few more million euros in taxes. Unfortunately, there has been no consideration yet of a secularization fund, which could wisely allocate the tax funds freed up by those who leave the church.


Professional Catholics

Once again, the number of priests declined more sharply than that of members, from 3,403 (2022) to 3,320. This represents a decrease of 2.4 percent. The number of "permanent deacons"—unordained assistants for parish duties—also fell. This marks a change from recent years, which had been characterized by steady growth.


New Developments in Church Departures

In the summer of 2024, Upper Austria, the last remaining federal state, was convinced to allow online church departures. Whether this will lead to an increase in the number of departures remains to be seen.
 
Catholics down, Muslims up. Things are only going to get worse for Europe.
 
No surprise, seems to be a trend not just in Austria, but throughout Europe, the UK, Canada and the USA. People are leaving mainline religions for alternatives or nothing at all. See this trend only increasing. But by the same token, suggest over time many Muslim immigrants' descendants will also fall away from traditional Islam, for alternatives or nothing.
 
No surprise, seems to be a trend not just in Austria, but throughout Europe, the UK, Canada and the USA. People are leaving mainline religions for alternatives or nothing at all. See this trend only increasing. But by the same token, suggest over time many Muslim immigrants' descendants will also fall away from traditional Islam, for alternatives or nothing.
From a US perspective, I see no reason to stick to the church. They're waving the flag of surrender to welcome the LGBTQ+++ and foreign invaders. Religion has to provide something of value to keep people engaged. Community doesn't mean much when the typical church in America is a mausoleum of the dying. Locally, the youth friendly churches are being invaded by pajeets and unwanted third worlders hoping to score a white/yellow bride. Even the need for structure and morality has failed now that the churches will happily burn away any part of the scriptures they dislike. 20 years ago the church stood against gay marriage. Now, it accepts transsexuality. The catholic church does all of this crap and turns the dial to 11 with the new pope being better described as an anti-christ set out to destroy the church and damn its congregation.
 
Due to the difficult economic situation, expenditures had to be more focused on the organization’s internal purposes. Thus, it is not surprising that spending on "Social and Charitable Tasks" and "Global Church and Development Aid" decreased both in absolute terms and as a percentage of total expenditures.
Lmao, so the government is funding the church so the church can fund their "Catholic charities" which dump a shitload of "refugees" in small towns. Too bad Austrians will still be funding their own replacement. And also a real shame that all the people who stopped worshipping the "virgin" Mary are now worshipping some other Jewish cause.
This is patently false and based on jewish media lies.
Pope Francis celebrates gay "unions" and celebrates troon hookers (pic related). He also believes there's multiple ways to heaven.
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Dunno why you don't like the Jewish media when the Bible is the bestselling piece of Jewish media out there.
 
Pope Francis celebrates gay "unions" and celebrates troon hookers (pic related).
Christ dined with sinners, but he didn't celebrate them. That is the lie in question. Recontextualizing an essentially Christ-like action as an endorsement. Its disingenuous and intellectually dishonest.
 
Christ dined with sinners, but he didn't celebrate them. That is the lie in question. Recontextualizing an essentially Christ-like action as an endorsement. Its disingenuous and intellectually dishonest.

The Pope celebrates this freak and tells him to "be herself." Imagine thinking this guy is anything special. At least those megachurch pastors pretend to be Christians, the Pope is a filthy communist who actively preaches against his own church and takes your tithes to pump your country full of browns and blacks. Enjoy diversity, child!
 

The Pope celebrates this freak and tells him to "be herself." Imagine thinking this guy is anything special. At least those megachurch pastors pretend to be Christians, the Pope is a filthy communist who actively preaches against his own church and takes your tithes to pump your country full of browns and blacks. Enjoy diversity, child!
Yes just make things up while linking to the homepage of a website.

Retard.
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From an outside view, it looks like the church tries too hard to update its views according to modern sensibilities to the point of alienating its core followers, while doing nothing to attract new followers.
 
No surprise, seems to be a trend not just in Austria, but throughout Europe, the UK, Canada and the USA. People are leaving mainline religions for alternatives or nothing at all. See this trend only increasing. But by the same token, suggest over time many Muslim immigrants' descendants will also fall away from traditional Islam, for alternatives or nothing.
The generations after the first tend to be more extreme Muslims I thought? Most of the Madrid, London, Paris attackers were all second gen afaik
 
From an outside view, it looks like the church tries too hard to update its views according to modern sensibilities to the point of alienating its core followers, while doing nothing to attract new followers.
What your saying is true but it goes a little farther than that. The reputation of Christianity has been ruined by things like pedo priests, televangelist charlatans and so on. At the same time Christianity for the most part stopped producing art, architecture, philosophy, etc. they really aren't a cultural force like they once were. The church isn't trusted since they all seem like a bunch of hypocrites (as an example, probably half or more Catholic priests are gay and are even engaging in gay sex, but are officially against homosexuality) or morons. They don't offer anything that people can't get through some other institution so why bother with it? You can save ten percent of your income by not engaging with it.

They want refugees and random third worlders because none of those people are going to ask hard questions or call them out on their hypocrisy. They can just hand them boxes of non perishable food items and some donated clothing and call it a day.
 
Can anyone provide more information about this? AI engines are telling me this doesn't exist when I ask about it.
Many European states record your religion and based on your religion, take a percentage of your taxes and send it to that religion. So if you’re on the rolls as a Roman Catholic, even if you never go to mass or never do anything, some portion of your taxes is going to pay for the buildings, etc.

My understanding is that if you de-religionize, you don’t pay less taxes it just all goes to the state. I may be wrong or it may be different in different countries.
 
"My Sultan I reached an epiphany!"
"Go on Vizier"
"Austria is constantly stopping our spread into central and western Europe right?"
"Yes."
"Well Allah has shown me the way! We simply do nothing."
"Nothing? what madness is this!"
"Allah has shown me that if we simply do nothing eventually they'll just let us in with open arms"
"Madness! Execute this man and prepare the army."

*Days before the failed siege of Vienna...the famous one.*
 
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