Attack on Titan Griefing Thread - >tfw even your VA thinks that you're a loser

[Doctor of Autism]

No, it was worse. Whatever you are thinking, it was worse.

Yeah it's so bad that both the West and Japanese hate it.

Though if there are other endings we can discuss worse than AOT, I'd like to throw Platinum End into the ring.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

Though if there are other endings we can discuss worse than AOT, I'd like to throw Platinum End into the ring.

Domestic Girlfriend definitely deserves to be mentioned as well.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Domestic Girlfriend definitely deserves to be mentioned as well.

Decided to take a look.



This could have been Eren and Mikasa. Probably.

And that Usagi drop…






Eren as an incel doesn’t sound that bad now, does it?

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Honestly, Eren doesn’t hold a candle to this shit.

And it's not even close. While they both ended up literally crying, Light at least didn't unnecessarily kill his own family (I think he was willing to if absolutely necessary, but did love them). Out of all the problems with AoT, the more I think about it the more that bothers me.

What the fuck was he even fighting for this whole time? Light had a laser focused goal and a pretty consistent character which you can explain in one or two sentences, which is a good thing.

Read the manga ending, much better.

I actually read that first, I think. I do like it more, mostly because it goes on a bit longer, whereas the anime pretty much ends right when Light dies.

It wasn't any particularly crucial content anyway, and leaving off on the altered Light death is more impactful than lingering so it was probably the right call, but I like the extra scenes, especially the mournful Kira cult. It showed it wasn't just people living in fear under Kira, there were people who were thankful.

Yeah it's so bad that both the West and Japanese hate it.

Though if there are other endings we can discuss worse than AOT, I'd like to throw Platinum End into the ring.

It was unsatisfying but at least interesting, and nobody's character was ever ruined in service of its bad ending. It also wasn't as convoluted either.

 

[Random Internet Person]

I actually read that first, I think. I do like it more, mostly because it goes on a bit longer, whereas the anime pretty much ends right when Light dies.

It wasn't any particularly crucial content anyway, and leaving off on the altered Light death is more impactful than lingering so it was probably the right call, but I like the extra scenes, especially the mournful Kira cult. It showed it wasn't just people living in fear under Kira, there were people who were thankful.

That shit hit so hard when I first read it. AOT could only dream.

 

[Uranus Pink]

Domestic Girlfriend definitely deserves to be mentioned as well.

Marmalade Boy called to get its plot line back.

 

[Tetra]

At least Desth Note and AoT post time skip didn't go where nobody wanted it to go like with the manga Usagi Drop.

I for one learned a lot about grooming from usagi drop and am heading straight for the orphanage as we speak

 

[Random Internet Person]

Marmalade Boy called to get its plot line back.

Let’s see…

 

[SwanSwanson]

Here I thought it was just Eren giving up, but nope, he got defeated in combat and his blubbering happened after he was beat. Exactly what was wrong with the ending? Was it not perfect or was it just bad or..?

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Here I thought it was just Eren giving up, but nope, he got defeated in combat and his blubbering happened after he was beat. Exactly what was wrong with the ending? Was it not perfect or was it just bad or..?

But he was only defeated in combat because he allowed it.

"What's wrong with the ending" is a lot. And people hate it for many reasons. I hate it because in undermines everything in the early story, particularly regarding Eren, but even his friends. The ending makes it all pointless.

Eren fought the Titans swearing vengeance when his family was killed. The retarded twist that he killed his own mom and ruined his own damn life just to help Ymir cope with her weird love for King Fritz, sacrificing everything for that and betraying Paradis in the process was just never going to go over well for a lot of people.

And it didn't just ruin Eren, but his friends, especially Mikasa. She didn't even want to live when she thought Eren died, and on another occasion didn't even seem to mind dying if it was with him, but now suddenly she's willing to kill him to save enemy nations and put her country in peril? She was obsessed with him, arguably to the detriment of her character. Isayama tried balancing it by making it an extremely difficult decision for her, and making her obsess over him even afterwards. but it's still not believable.

Others seems to hate it because it supposedly glorifies nationalism, or just simply because it's a convoluted mess. There's plenty of reasons not to like it. The nicest thing I can say is it was entertaining, in a train wreck sort of way.

 

[SwanSwanson]

The retarded twist that he killed his own mom and ruined his own damn life

I interpreted this as Erens mind being fucked so badly from all of the memories of the past and present that he somehow thinks he sent a titan to kill his own mother.

 

[Random Internet Person]

I interpreted this as Erens mind being fucked so badly from all of the memories of the past and present that he somehow thinks he sent a titan to kill his own mother.

I guess that could make sense. If he’s just searching for the sweet release of death.

 

[SwanSwanson]

I guess that could make sense. If he’s just searching for the sweet release of death.

I doubt it's suicide but Eren wasn't exactly normal after touching Historias hand. Still, Isayama should have really thought over the implications of that plot point.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

I doubt it's suicide but Eren wasn't exactly normal after touching Historias hand. Still, Isayama should have really thought over the implications of that plot point.

There are a lot of plot points he seemingly didn't think over the implications of.

 

[Chilson]

There are a lot of plot points he seemingly didn't think over the implications of.

Its almost like the author is a huge hack and the writing is fucking terrible.

 

[Oilspill Battery]

That's hilarious, maybe that'll be my April Fool's avatar.


The Death Note ending was way better though at least. Light was uncharacteristically overconfident, they basically had to nerf him to make him lose and it just doesn't feel believable, but it's still a fun watch.

Death note and AoT have similar problems. In both cases the writer made the protagonist way too competent to actually lose in any realistic way and in death note also killed the 1 person that was equally compent and stood a chance against light.

I think both endings are dogshit but AoT is significantly worse because it ruins eren's character while nerfing his compence, while death note comes up with contrived bullshit to make light lose but at least it keeps his character relatively true to the end.

I.e. There's absolutely no fucking way light loses, but if he did that is how he would react. It still feels cheap and forced, but at least its not insulting.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

There's absolutely no fucking way light loses, but if he did that is how he would react. It still feels cheap and forced, but at least its not insulting.

Yeah, that's pretty much how I see it too. The only excuse I can give is Light may not have expected Near to use the Death Note (like Matsuda theorized in the manga), something L wouldn't have done, since he expected Near as the successor of L to also play "fairly". But even so, Light wouldn't have barked out "I win", he didn't trust Mikaki THAT much, that's a stupid mistake...

So actually I'm back at square 1, yeah, there's no way Light would've lost lol.

 

[Akumaten]

Did they show that Eran is responsible for his mother's death?

 

[Oilspill Battery]

Yeah, that's pretty much how I see it too. The only excuse I can give is Light may not have expected Near to use the Death Note (like Matsuda theorized in the manga), something L wouldn't have done, since he expected Near as the successor of L to also play "fairly". But even so, Light wouldn't have barked out "I win", he didn't trust Mikaki THAT much, that's a stupid mistake...

So actually I'm back at square 1, yeah, there's no way Light would've lost lol.

There's also the issue of of near discovering the notebook, looting it from the vault, making a perfectly indistinguishable 1:1 copy, and planting it back in the vault, all in the span of less than a single night.

The fight between light and L felt intresting because its shit any normal person could reasonably come up with and when you DO see it, you feel cleverer and its something you could reasonable apply in everyday life in similar sitiuations.

Like when L worked out light was a student based on the scedule of killings lining up with a japanese student's schedule that was insanely clever.

It makes sense, its not a far fetch, and it doesn't require unreal intellect or money to work out, its just clever deduction.

But "I made a carbon copy of a book with thousands (if not tens of thousands) of names, overnight after looting it and planting it from a bank offscreen while you weren't watching" is pure bullshit because at that point you basically have fucking superpowers.

Did they show that Eran is responsible for his mother's death?

Yes. He tells armin onscreen both in the manga and anime that "berthold had to live" so when nina's titan was heading toward him eren decided to redirect the titan to kill his mother instead.

Why did he sent the titan to his mother instead of the other 359 directions? Only ymir knows.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Death note and AoT have similar problems. In both cases the writer made the protagonist way too competent to actually lose in any realistic way and in death note also killed the 1 person that was equally compent and stood a chance against light.

I think both endings are dogshit but AoT is significantly worse because it ruins eren's character while nerfing his compence, while death note comes up with contrived bullshit to make light lose but at least it keeps his character relatively true to the end.

I.e. There's absolutely no fucking way light loses, but if he did that is how he would react. It still feels cheap and forced, but at least its not insulting.

Yeah, that's pretty much how I see it too. The only excuse I can give is Light may not have expected Near to use the Death Note (like Matsuda theorized in the manga), something L wouldn't have done, since he expected Near as the successor of L to also play "fairly". But even so, Light wouldn't have barked out "I win", he didn't trust Mikaki THAT much, that's a stupid mistake...

So actually I'm back at square 1, yeah, there's no way Light would've lost lol.

I’ll always say it’s worth it just for Light’s full on villain speech.

There's also the issue of of near discovering the notebook, looting it from the vault, making a perfectly indistinguishable 1:1 copy, and planting it back in the vault, all in the span of less than a single night.

The fight between light and L felt intresting because its shit any normal person could reasonably come up with and when you DO see it, you feel cleverer and its something you could reasonable apply in everyday life in similar sitiuations.

Like when L worked out light was a student based on the scedule of killings lining up with a japanese student's schedule that was insanely clever.

It makes sense, its not a far fetch, and it doesn't require unreal intellect or money to work out, its just clever deduction.

But "I made a carbon copy of a book with thousands (if not tens of thousands) of names, overnight after looting it and planting it from a bank offscreen while you weren't watching" is pure bullshit because at that point you basically have fucking superpowers.

The power of the killer notebook, bitch! And dedicating your life to this shit.