Attack on Titan Griefing Thread - >tfw even your VA thinks that you're a loser

[Doctor of Autism]

I mean, I think the aftermath of Gabi killing Sasha could be something if it was done right. Hell, that fic I posted earlier was just an attempt in showing actions have consequences, but it COULD be a way to develop Gabi, with Falco as moral compass/chain for her.

Oh yeah Gabi could’ve been a much better character. But she’s just decent at best. Isayama never gives proper consequences beyond her just seeing through propaganda and having her and Falco get abused a lot.

 

[Gar For Archer]

The fact that nobody in the series pulled the "What would your mother think of what you're doing and what you've become?" is just another example of how this manga went off the rails. They couldn't even do the "Eren, you have become the very thing you swore to destroy" thing.

A better manga would’ve used this to its advantage. I keep circling back to this point, but a guy whose main motivation is freedom turning himself into a slave of fate is absolutely delicious irony, and a better writer could’ve turned that into a very compelling character.

 

[stuffandthings]

Oh yeah Gabi could’ve been a much better character. But she’s just decent at best. Isayama never gives proper consequences beyond her just seeing through propaganda and having her and Falco get abused a lot.

Meh. I think Gabi not having more serious 'consequences' is part of the point. Niccolo basically throws the brat at her dad, hands him a knife, and tells him to show her the consequences. and his response is 'fuck consequences.' Trying to exact consequences for crimes of the past is shown as toxic in the show, and PREVENTS people from changing since they're on the defensive. That's why I think the moment where the Braus family is walking by the window is Gabi's real wake-up moment. Because Braus has forgiven her and Kaya hasn't. On the one hand she sees the quality of the people she has hurt, and on the other hand she sees how she's perpetuated the cycle of hatred and violence.

The theme is bungled in other places, but I think in Gabi's case it is done well.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

I would really like to see Eren try to pull the same shit with her and see how far he gets.

"Boy, I brought you into this world...I CAN FUCKING TAKE YOU OUT OF IT I don't give a flying fuck If you got Time God Powers, I am your mother and I will beat your ass so hard the next Coordinate will feel it."

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Meh. I think Gabi not having more serious 'consequences' is part of the point. Niccolo basically throws the brat at her dad, hands him a knife, and tells him to show her the consequences. and his response is 'fuck consequences.' Trying to exact consequences for crimes of the past is shown as toxic in the show, and PREVENTS people from changing since they're on the defensive. That's why I think the moment where the Braus family is walking by the window is Gabi's real wake-up moment. Because Braus has forgiven her and Kaya hasn't. On the one hand she sees the quality of the people she has hurt, and on the other hand she sees how she's perpetuated the cycle of hatred and violence.

The theme is bungled in other places, but I think in Gabi's case it is done well.

I get that but I feel the speech of Sasha's father could've been handled better (I do think the anime handled it better due to the voice actors actually selling it, but in manga form it feels way more preachy). Like him not wanting to murder gabi is fine, but the way Isayama handles this shit by having these preachy morals feels less like a natural character moment and more for Isayama to get on his soapbox. This is a very prevalent thing he does in the timeskip by having characters give these obnoxious preachy speeches (i.e. like the speech about hate during the rumbling is another example of this). These points could've been handled better if he wrote these moments as something an actual human being would say rather than Isayama jerking off how smart he feels.

 

[stuffandthings]

I get that but I feel the speech of Sasha's father could've been handled better (I do think the anime handled it better due to the voice actors actually selling it, but in manga form it feels way more preachy). Like him not wanting to murder gabi is fine, but the way Isayama handles this shit by having these preachy morals feels less like a natural character moment and more for Isayama to get on his soapbox. This is a very prevalent thing he does in the timeskip by having characters give these obnoxious preachy speeches (i.e. like the speech about hate during the rumbling is another example of this). These points could've been handled better if he wrote these moments as something an actual human being would say rather than Isayama jerking off how smart he feels.

True. The hate speech during the rumbling was probably the worst of the cringey speeches. Though soapboxy speeches are also a staple of the genre. Compared to something like Demon Slayer, AOT is pretty restrained. And Sasha's dad was a rustic preachy mouthpiece before the time skip too.

Of course, some of the RumbleTard readers cheering for 100% completion probably needed to be preached at that explicitly.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Though soapboxy speeches are also a staple of the genre.

One Piece manages to have the greatest soapbox speech in any Manga.

"Hero?! No way! We're Pirates! I love heroes, but I don't wanna be one! Do you even know what a hero is? Let's say there's a bunch of meat!. Pirates have feasts and eat meat, but heroes give the meat to other people! I want to eat the meat!"

 

[Doctor of Autism]

True. The hate speech during the rumbling was probably the worst of the cringey speeches. Though soapboxy speeches are also a staple of the genre. Compared to something like Demon Slayer, AOT is pretty restrained. And Sasha's dad was a rustic preachy mouthpiece before the time skip too.

Of course, some of the RumbleTard readers cheering for 100% completion probably needed to be preached at that explicitly.

The issue with that is Attack on Titan tries to present itself as more than the average shounen story as Isayama is clearly trying to be ambitious with the shit load of nuanced themes he keeps adding without understanding how they work (i.e. geopolitics, war, and racism being primary examples). Even then so many other series handle their soapbox speeches better, heck even Attack on Titan itself handled it decently before the timeskip (except the moments where they bring up taxpayers).

As for the Erenfags needing to be preached to, a speech was not needed to show that the rumbling is a horrifying and terrible thing to do given in that same chapter, there is a lot of effective imagery that show it and earlier when Eren crushes innocent children to death. A speech about "Hate bad" is unwarranted when we see how disgusting the rumbling is, hell that speech is bad for the simple fact that before the rumbling happened, everyone who didn't know a named Eldian character are portrayed as cartoonishly racist. So a speech that preachy and hamfisted only is a reminder that these idiots pretty much were provoking a murder-hungry pack of wolves so it makes the plight of the outside world feel less sympathetic.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

Yeah cause there were so many more interesting ways that the story could've gone. Hell the current structure is fine but the details are absolutely stupid from the many retarded decisions characters make and the way Isayama acts like a D&D DM who insists on people doing one path while making sure anyone who tries anything different instantly fail is telling.

But no one ever thinks about that, they just want to bitch about anime girls

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Erenfags: "Mikasa serves no purpose and is completely irrelevant!"

Also Erenfags: "Mikasa's love is so strong it started the entire series because it can create time-loops and alternate dimensions!"

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Erenfags: "Mikasa serves no purpose and is completely irrelevant!"

Also Erenfags: "Mikasa's love is so strong it started the entire series because it can create time-loops and alternate dimensions!"

Erenfags are reaching hard to explain why Eren should love Historia rather than Mikasa (the real answer no one will accept is that neither deserve him)

 

[bigoogabaloogas]

Isayama should have shut the fuck up and said nothing about Muv-Luv, holy shit. The amount of tweets and posts I've seen comparing the two is giving me damage in the soul

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Isayama should have shut the fuck up and said nothing about Muv-Luv, holy shit. The amount of tweets and posts I've seen comparing the two is giving me damage in the soul

Like it's literally just autistic Erenfags coping that the anime would be a new timeline and shit so they can get Historia to make out with Eren. But some of their hopes were ruined when they showed the scarf scene in the latest episode

 

[Random Internet Person]

Like it's literally just autistic Erenfags coping that the anime would be a new timeline and shit so they can get Historia to make out with Eren. But some of their hopes were ruined when they showed the scarf scene in the latest episode

Historia should just say she’s a lesbian. And she hasn’t gotten over losing her girlfriend so she’s not ready for a relationship. Will Eren get the hint then?

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Historia should just say she’s a lesbian. And she hasn’t gotten over losing her girlfriend so she’s not ready for a relationship. Will Eren get the hint then?

No because Historia was meant to be his love interest because "MUH FORESHADOWIN'"

 

[Bunny Tracks]

No because Historia was meant to be his love interest because "MUH FORESHADOWIN'"

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If they're gonna talk about similar shapes equaling foreshadowing, I'd like to direct them to all the theories about there being an even bigger power at play when people realized Eren's hellbeast form resembled a puppet.

Not only did that one have more weight to it because the form actually does resemble that, a good chunk of the fandom people thought it was gonna happen when young!Eren randomly appeared besides Ymir, and they thought he (or Ymir) was the one somehow controlling everything.

 

[MirrorNoir]

Could someone explain why Eren didn't just hatefuck some whores after being rejected by Mikasa?

When you are that deeply into someone, hatefucking hookers or whores won't do. Your brain is so one track mind that you won't even consider fucking someone else for sexual release, let alone a prostitute. It is your oneitis or nothing at all for people like Eren.

 

[Rezza]

No because Historia was meant to be his love interest because "MUH FORESHADOWIN'"

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One thing that makes manga different than comics or novels is that, mangaka rarely ever actually foreshadow things, because they never knew whether they even have the opportunity to do so. Instead, they added or built thinga from things that often have nothing to do with it. However, even in that regard, Isayama is bad at doing so

 

[DicksOutForBurgers]

I wish Itachi got this much hate in Naruto.
I consider both Eren and Itachi both one and the same for being shit eating weasels who made everything worse in the long run

At least Itachi owns up to it and realizes he fucked up.

 

[Protistology]

One thing that makes manga different than comics or novels is that, mangaka rarely ever actually foreshadow things, because they never knew whether they even have the opportunity to do so. Instead, they added or built thinga from things that often have nothing to do with it. However, even in that regard, Isayama is bad at doing so

There's a chapter in Bakuman that reveals that. When mangaka run out of ideas, they read the collected volumes and find something that can retroactively be foreshadowing of a new plot.

 

[Rezza]

There's a chapter in Bakuman that reveals that. When mangaka run out of ideas, they read the collected volumes and find something that can retroactively be foreshadowing of a new plot.

Where do you think I get the idea, lol. Bakuman is a timeless classic indeed, everything in it will always be relevant