Attack on Titan Griefing Thread - >tfw even your VA thinks that you're a loser

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This might be unrelated, but I have a feeling we're probably going to see this kind of retarded theatrics once Chainsaw Man's anime is released. Both are the same, premise that is boosted by the right kind of moment, arguably ugly art, and authors that love to see the reaction of their audience (and troll them). The only difference is that Fujimoto is way smarter and more experienced than Isayama, but you know how fame could turn people for the worse
 
Rezza said:
This might be unrelated, but I have a feeling we're probably going to see this kind of retarded theatrics once Chainsaw Man's anime is released. Both are the same, premise that is boosted by the right kind of moment, arguably ugly art, and authors that love to see the reaction of their audience (and troll them). The only difference is that Fujimoto is way smarter and more experienced than Isayama, but you know how fame could turn people for the worse
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I mean, when a fucktarded manga reader goes "ITS JUST TOO LITERAL GUYZ", its like 'no, the manga was just fucking bad'.

MAPPA is CLEARLY phoning in AoT Part 2. Its always been really clear. It is not phoning in Chainsaw Man, which was fucking awesome.
 
Secret Asshole said:
I mean, when a fucktarded manga reader goes "ITS JUST TOO LITERAL GUYZ", its like 'no, the manga was just fucking bad'.

MAPPA is CLEARLY phoning in AoT Part 2. Its always been really clear. It is not phoning in Chainsaw Man, which was fucking awesome.
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The Chainsaw Man trailer was pre-made right? As in, it's probably going to be different from the final result. I knew MAPPA will do whatever it takes to not drop the ball with Chainsaw Man, it's the hottest thing after KnY. But you can't deny their slave-driving way is most likely going to bite them in the ass very soon
 
Speaking of Yelena, they ruined her other most famous scene.
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Rezza said:
This might be unrelated, but I have a feeling we're probably going to see this kind of retarded theatrics once Chainsaw Man's anime is released. Both are the same, premise that is boosted by the right kind of moment, arguably ugly art, and authors that love to see the reaction of their audience (and troll them). The only difference is that Fujimoto is way smarter and more experienced than Isayama, but you know how fame could turn people for the worse
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The difference is Chainsaw Man has already told a complete story. Even if “Part 2” is total garbage, you can just ignore it and everything that happens afterwards because “Part 1” is more or less fully self-contained.

It’s obviously not the same with Attack on Titan, there is no point in the middle where you can stop and be left with a satisfying, complete product.
 
Slightly off-topic, but a few things have suddenly just occurred to me in regard to an anime original ending. Specifically, the one that AnR fans seem to be clamoring for.

The ending they want is still terrible.

Let's just completely disregard Eren for right now. He genocides the entire world, including his friends, and gets to live out the rest of his life with Historia and their kid, but it's okay because he's depressed and suffers from PTSD and guilt, and shit. We all know that part. Let's ignore it for now.

What about Historia? How does she feel about this?

How does Historia, the girl who after being deprived a family, and her own history decided to devote her life to helping others not go through the same thing she did, feel about having millions of people and millions of people die by the very hands of the same person who killed her family?

Not only that, how does she feel about that person also killing all her friends?

How about that person also being the father of her child and also sticking around to raise them?

Is she just okay with it? How? Does she just not care?

Don't get me wrong here. I know that in canon, Historia didn't seem to give a fuck about the genociding considering she didn't tell a damn person about it, or at least was stupid enough to think it was the only way, but I can't wrap my head around the idea that if she and Eren were romantically involved that she would want a damn thing to do with him afterwards.

Even if she dropped the ball on the genocide thing, Historia isn't some cold-hearted bitch who wanted to see people get hurt. She cares about her friends. She cares about people in general. She built the first orphanage. She helps the poor. She helps her people. She has standards.

If canon!Historia was in AnR, she would murder Eren herself the moment he came back, or at the very least, never let him anywhere near her, or their kid. She'd be wracked with guilt the rest of her life. It would destroy her worse than it would Eren.

My point is that in AnR either Historia is just as big of a psychopath as Eren or is nothing more than a brainless trophy with no purpose other than to serve him.

You know.

Just like Mikasa.

Okay, but let's say Historia is also really bummed out about this shit, and stuff, too. She wanted to stop it, but just couldn't. Okay then. What about their kid?

Eren and Historia's child gets to live with their genocidal, psychopathic, depressed father, and their either also psychopathic, or just plain ineffectual mother on a farm in the middle of nowhere with no outside interaction from anyone because everyone is dead, and the outside world is a barren wasteland full nothing but ash, smoke, and corpses.

What if the kid has that same natural drive for exploration like Eren has?

Well shit, kiddo, daddy destroyed everything so there's nothing to see. There's no new people to meet. No new things to discover. Nothing.

You're stuck in a gilded cage with your monstrous, miserable parents for the rest of your life.

So much for fucking living.

This isn't even to mention if the kid ever asks about what the fuck actually happened. Are they gonna explain it to them? How is that gonna go over? I mentioned Historia feeling horrible but imagine how the kid would feel.

Imagine your dad destroying the entire world because he's a psychopathic dumbass and that your mom kept him around because she's also a psychopathic dumbass. Imagine them robbing you of your life because of their stupidity, and how your mother should be able to relate to that, but just doesn't for some reason.

Now imagine people trying paint your parents' actions as a good thing, and a romantic thing, and how they're the perfect couple who are more than morally justified to raise despite all evidence to the contrary.

What I'm trying to say is that even in their ideal world, this is still not a happy ending, and I have to ask, is that the point?

Because if so, why does everyone, including the writers of AnR, treat it like it is?

Is their idea of a happy ending Eren genociding everyone, completely destroying all other cultures, and any record of their histories, absolutely annihilating the ecosystem, and most animal species, allegedly being completely torn up with guilt and depression for the rest of his life, and living with his equally depressed, or just fucking uncaring wife, and their kid on an empty farm by themselves? With nothing else to do, or see, or anyone to meet?

Or does all that not matter because Eren "won" in the end and got the "correct" waifu?

I really wanna know because the more I think about this ending, and AnR in general, the more obvious it is that its writers and fans have not thought about more than anything outside of "Chadren wins and gets to make babies with Aryan waifu" when it comes to this story.

All of which just makes the fact that they claimed that AnR is actually canon and is going to change the industry even fucking more hysterical.
 
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You basically answers your own question. They don't care about the story, they just want "Chaderen wins and gets to make babies with Aryan Waifu". They like Eren because they projected themselves into him, a genocidal racist. That's why they don't want to admit the Eren they thought as their "idol" is actually an incel, because they don't want to admit that they are one
 
Bunny Tracks said:
Slightly off-topic, but a few things have suddenly just occurred to me in regard to an anime original ending. Specifically, the one that AnR fans seem to be clamoring for.

The ending they want is still terrible.

Let's just completely disregard Eren for right now. He genocides the entire world, including his friends, and gets to live out the rest of his life with Historia and their kid, but it's okay because he's depressed and suffers from PTSD and guilt, and shit. We all know that part. Let's ignore it for now.

What about Historia? How does she feel about this?

How does Historia, the girl who after being deprived a family, and her own history decided to devote her life to helping others not go through the same thing she did, feel about having millions of people and millions of people die by the very hands of the same person who killed her family?

Not only that, how does she feel about that person also killing all her friends?

How about that person also being the father of her child and also sticking around to raise them?

Is she just okay with it? How? Does she just not care?

Don't get me wrong here. I know that in canon, Historia didn't seem to give a fuck about the genociding considering she didn't tell a damn person about it, or at least was stupid enough to think it was the only way, but I can't wrap my head around the idea that if she and Eren were romantically involved that she would want a damn thing to do with him afterwards.

Even if she dropped the ball on the genocide thing, Historia isn't some cold-hearted bitch who wanted to see people get hurt. She cares about her friends. She cares about people in general. She built the first orphanage. She helps the poor. She helps her people. She has standards.

If canon!Historia was in AnR, she would murder Eren herself the moment he came back, or at the very least, never let him anywhere near her, or their kid. She'd be wracked with guilt the rest of her life. It would destroy her worse than it would Eren.

My point is that in AnR either Historia is just as big of a psychopath as Eren or is nothing more than a brainless trophy with no purpose other than to serve him.

You know.

Just like Mikasa.

Okay, but let's say Historia is also really bummed out about this shit, and stuff, too. She wanted to stop it, but just couldn't. Okay then. What about their kid?

Eren and Historia's child gets to live with their genocidal, psychopathic, depressed father, and their either also psychopathic, or just plain ineffectual mother on a farm in the middle of nowhere with no outside interaction from anyone because everyone is dead, and the outside world is a barren wasteland full nothing but ash, smoke, and corpses.

What if the kid has that same natural drive for exploration like Eren has?

Well shit, kiddo, daddy destroyed everything so there's nothing to see. There's no knew people to meet. No knew things to discover. Nothing.

You're stuck in a gilded cage with your monstrous, miserable parents for the rest of your life.

So much for fucking living.

This isn't even to mention if the kid ever asks about what the fuck actually happened. Are they gonna explain it to them? How is that gonna go over? I mentioned Historia feeling horrible but imagine how the kid would feel.

Imagine your dad destroying the entire world because he's a psychopathic dumbass and that your mom kept him around because she's also a psychopathic dumbass. Imagine them robbing you of your life because of their stupidity, and how your mother should be able to relate to that, but just doesn't for some reason.

Now imagine people trying paint your parents' actions as a good thing, and a romantic thing, and how they're the perfect couple who are more than morally justified to raise despite all evidence to the contrary.

What I'm trying to say is that even in their ideal world, this is still not a happy ending, and I have to ask, is that the point?

Because if so, why does everyone, including the writers of AnR, treat it like it is?

Is their idea of a happy ending Eren genociding everyone, completely destroying all other cultures, and any record of their histories, absolutely annihilating the ecosystem, and most animal species, allegedly being completely torn up with guilt and depression for the rest of his life, and living with his equally depressed, or just fucking uncaring wife, and their kid on an empty farm by themselves? With nothing else to do, or see, or anyone to meet?

Or does all that not matter because Eren "won" in the end and got the "correct" waifu?

I really wanna know because the more I think about this ending, and AnR in general, the more obvious it is that its writers and fans have not thought more than anything outside of "Chadren wins and gets to make babies with Aryan waifu" when it comes to this story.

All of which just makes the fact that they claimed that AnR is actually canon and is going to change the industry even fucking more hysterical.
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Let's be real if Erenfags got the ending they wanted, the child would just be reincarnated Ymir and she'd basically just be Gabi but even worse if she grew up spouting shit about how her parents are super based or whatever and never grow out of it. But with what the Erenfags want is some fairy tale ending just with some angst where Eren and Historia feel vaguely bad about their actions while Floch is Eren's best man (yes that same Floch who is totally not an unhinged psycho) unlike Armong and Mankasa.

Hell it's kinda funny how in both the canon ending and AnR, Eren pretty much just pisses off any of his remaining friends who are alive by basically making them deal with a mess that he created whether it be justifiably pissed off people on the outside or Paradisians + Marleyans that were stranded on the island. Adding on to the fact both Eren's claim they are helping someone who realistically would not think starting a war through a dumbass politician that leads to planetary genocide is a good idea whatsoever.
 
Bunny Tracks said:
Slightly off-topic, but a few things have suddenly just occurred to me in regard to an anime original ending. Specifically, the one that AnR fans seem to be clamoring for.

The ending they want is still terrible.

Let's just completely disregard Eren for right now. He genocides the entire world, including his friends, and gets to live out the rest of his life with Historia and their kid, but it's okay because he's depressed and suffers from PTSD and guilt, and shit. We all know that part. Let's ignore it for now.

What about Historia? How does she feel about this?

How does Historia, the girl who after being deprived a family, and her own history decided to devote her life to helping others not go through the same thing she did, feel about having millions of people and millions of people die by the very hands of the same person who killed her family?

Not only that, how does she feel about that person also killing all her friends?

How about that person also being the father of her child and also sticking around to raise them?

Is she just okay with it? How? Does she just not care?

Don't get me wrong here. I know that in canon, Historia didn't seem to give a fuck about the genociding considering she didn't tell a damn person about it, or at least was stupid enough to think it was the only way, but I can't wrap my head around the idea that if she and Eren were romantically involved that she would want a damn thing to do with him afterwards.

Even if she dropped the ball on the genocide thing, Historia isn't some cold-hearted bitch who wanted to see people get hurt. She cares about her friends. She cares about people in general. She built the first orphanage. She helps the poor. She helps her people. She has standards.

If canon!Historia was in AnR, she would murder Eren herself the moment he came back, or at the very least, never let him anywhere near her, or their kid. She'd be wracked with guilt the rest of her life. It would destroy her worse than it would Eren.

My point is that in AnR either Historia is just as big of a psychopath as Eren or is nothing more than a brainless trophy with no purpose other than to serve him.

You know.

Just like Mikasa.

Okay, but let's say Historia is also really bummed out about this shit, and stuff, too. She wanted to stop it, but just couldn't. Okay then. What about their kid?

Eren and Historia's child gets to live with their genocidal, psychopathic, depressed father, and their either also psychopathic, or just plain ineffectual mother on a farm in the middle of nowhere with no outside interaction from anyone because everyone is dead, and the outside world is a barren wasteland full nothing but ash, smoke, and corpses.

What if the kid has that same natural drive for exploration like Eren has?

Well shit, kiddo, daddy destroyed everything so there's nothing to see. There's no knew people to meet. No knew things to discover. Nothing.

You're stuck in a gilded cage with your monstrous, miserable parents for the rest of your life.

So much for fucking living.

This isn't even to mention if the kid ever asks about what the fuck actually happened. Are they gonna explain it to them? How is that gonna go over? I mentioned Historia feeling horrible but imagine how the kid would feel.

Imagine your dad destroying the entire world because he's a psychopathic dumbass and that your mom kept him around because she's also a psychopathic dumbass. Imagine them robbing you of your life because of their stupidity, and how your mother should be able to relate to that, but just doesn't for some reason.

Now imagine people trying paint your parents' actions as a good thing, and a romantic thing, and how they're the perfect couple who are more than morally justified to raise despite all evidence to the contrary.

What I'm trying to say is that even in their ideal world, this is still not a happy ending, and I have to ask, is that the point?

Because if so, why does everyone, including the writers of AnR, treat it like it is?

Is their idea of a happy ending Eren genociding everyone, completely destroying all other cultures, and any record of their histories, absolutely annihilating the ecosystem, and most animal species, allegedly being completely torn up with guilt and depression for the rest of his life, and living with his equally depressed, or just fucking uncaring wife, and their kid on an empty farm by themselves? With nothing else to do, or see, or anyone to meet?

Or does all that not matter because Eren "won" in the end and got the "correct" waifu?

I really wanna know because the more I think about this ending, and AnR in general, the more obvious it is that its writers and fans have not thought about more than anything outside of "Chadren wins and gets to make babies with Aryan waifu" when it comes to this story.

All of which just makes the fact that they claimed that AnR is actually canon and is going to change the industry even fucking more hysterical.
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Basically, it comes down to these idiots wanting cardboard cutout variants of Eren and Historia to Hitler everything because "It's TOTALLY based bro". Shit, I think Secret Asshole a while back gave a better plan than what Eren came up with: Hit the government, idustrial and military sections of Marley, and basically castrate them for ages to come. No need to genocide the entire outside, no need to distance yourself from all of your friends and literal family, no need to go crazy from PATHS bullshit; it's simple, effective, lessens civilian casualties and more importantly, lessens the amount of dead Eldians. Shit, it prolly would have kept several of Erens allies and friends alive if he went with that instead!

Anybody who thinks the genocide plan was the best and most reasonable choice is a dumb fuck who needs to learn how to insurgency.
 
Doctor of Autism said:
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This guy is both right and wrong. Isayama was influenced by the West, namely media like Game of Thrones and other subversive media like The Mist, which he tried to emulate (albeit poorly). He is wrong in the fact that Isayama is in anyway a SJW. Isayama is not woke nor is he even that based. His work is entirely based on his inane Japanese nationalist views and weird insecurity of Japan having been (almost rightfully) curbstomped in WW2 and his autistic desire to "hurt" the viewer.

Fans don't get Isayama just as much as Isayama doesn't get his own work.
 
Random Internet Person said:
I don’t know what’s worse: fanboys trying to go on about “Based Nippon (and with Roof Koreans apparently)” or trying to go on about Eren x Historia and trying to paint it as about something other than tragedy as you pointed out.
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I mean they very much overlap with each other since they both idolize stuff that isn't meant to be idolized as the Erenfags think AOT is a super pro-nationalist story that is meant to promote that ideology.

The Great Chandler said:
This guy is both right and wrong. Isayama was influenced by the West, namely media like Game of Thrones and other subversive media like The Mist, which he tried to emulate (albeit poorly). He is wrong in the fact that Isayama is in anyway a SJW. Isayama is not woke nor is he even that based. His work is entirely based on his inane Japanese nationalist views and weird insecurity of Japan having been (almost rightfully) curbstomped in WW2 and his autistic desire to "hurt" the viewer.

Fans don't get Isayama just as much as Isayama doesn't get his own work.
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Yeah I can see this with Isayama not understanding his own work especially in the timeskip era where his game of thrones influences really kicked into overdrive.
 
Gar For Archer said:
The difference is Chainsaw Man has already told a complete story. Even if “Part 2” is total garbage, you can just ignore it and everything that happens afterwards because “Part 1” is more or less fully self-contained.

It’s obviously not the same with Attack on Titan, there is no point in the middle where you can stop and be left with a satisfying, complete product.
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Not to mention, Fujimoto has more of a resume already, and going off his previous work with Fire Punch he has an idea how to handle escalation of stakes in a work of fiction. Certainly, given how Chainsaw Man plays out compared to the former he clearly learned a great deal about keeping the tone of his stories balanced. Same thing could happen with Isayama if he doesn't let early success go to his head. Of course if he does get too big for his britches, he may just decide to cook up some grandiose vanity project that winds up being entertaining for all the wrong reasons.
 
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