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Is sex really that important to moids, or do Indians on the internet just make all moids look bad? I've seen a lot of men who act like sex and masturbation is as vital to their lives as oxygen. But communities like r/NoFap challenge that idea, though I doubt anyone in NoFap is brown. Gooners seem to defend their addiction by saying, "All men are like this" / "What man doesn't watch porn?", but I have come across men that aren't obsessed with gooner shit, and some of them are even anti-porn.
 
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Sandshrew said:
Is sex really that important to moids
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Most of us think of it as a need. Consider a fit man. A fit man needs food no less than a fat man. The problem in the fat man is the relationship to food. Donald Trump, in an interview I recall, said that he thought masturbating was a waste of time. But open porn celebrators are mentally ill, and any higher level of engagement with porn than "bad stuff that I do sometimes but people shouldn't" is suggestive of problems.

A sexless marriage is considered a horror to most men.
 
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analrapist said:
Most of us think of it as a need. Consider a fit man. A fit man needs food no less than a fat man. The problem in the fat man is the relationship to food. Donald Trump, in an interview I recall, said that he thought masturbating was a waste of time. But open porn celebrators are mentally ill, and any higher level of engagement with porn than "bad stuff that I do sometimes but people shouldn't" is suggestive of problems.

A sexless marriage is considered a horror to most men.
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So, how do single men survive? How do men survive when a woman is pregnant and can't have as much sex? How does anyone who's waiting until marriage or NoFap survive? I'm not even hating, I genuinely just don't understand why men seem to view it as such a vital need, compared to women. Maybe I'm the weird one. I don't really buy into the reddit meme of "Masturbation is healthy for you" (Maybe not unhealthy in moderation, but I definitely wouldn't place it on par with exercise).

Why do some men seem capable of having a completely platonic female friend, while others are completely incapable of it? And I'm talking about straight guys, they are not gay, nor am I talking about fat women.
 
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Sandshrew said:
So, how do single men survive?
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Hookups or 'baiting.

How do men survive when a woman is pregnant and can't have as much sex?
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Often, the increased time cost of maintaining a pregnant woman and/or newborn child tends to make things more difficult.

How does anyone who's waiting until marriage or NoFap survive? I'm not even hating, I genuinely just don't understand why men seem to view it as such a vital need, compared to women. Maybe I'm the weird one. I don't really buy into the reddit meme of "Masturbation is healthy for you" (Maybe not unhealthy in moderation, but I definitely wouldn't place it on par with exercise).
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It's not that "men can't go without", it's more like it's a problem that men want to have solved. If their solution is porn, there's one. Maybe their solution is Tinder, hookups. Maybe marriage. Whatever. It's just that the energy will go somewhere, and if the problem isn't solved, it'll go into solving the problem.

Sandshrew said:
Why do some men seem capable of having a completely platonic female friend, while others are completely incapable of it?
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I have one good platonic female friend and there are a dozen others who I could salvage my old friendships with if I really wanted. The problem is the value proposition. Women... are not like men. Especially Current Year Woman. Men put up with the stereotypical Current Year Woman because the sex keeps them sedated. I'm a weirdo who values unusual counsel, and my friend is quite unusual. Most men are more solutions-oriented. Women just don't help most of them resolve many of their pet problems, unless they find one who really does in some unique way, and these tend to get wifed up fast.
 
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analrapist said:
Most men are more solutions-oriented. Women just don't help most of them resolve many of their pet problems, unless they find one who really does in some unique way, and these tend to get wifed up fast.
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This is something I dislike about women as well, as a woman. I stopped giving anyone advice because it seemed like most people (especially women, but some soyboys too) just wanted validation and nice words instead of potential solutions to their problems. I tend to get along more with men, but it's hard to befriend them without them wanting something more from me. In terms of male friends, I primarily befriend gay dudes and very loyal taken dudes.
 
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Sandshrew said:
So, how do single men survive? How do men survive when a woman is pregnant and can't have as much sex? How does anyone who's waiting until marriage or NoFap survive? I'm not even hating, I genuinely just don't understand why men seem to view it as such a vital need, compared to women. Maybe I'm the weird one. I don't really buy into the reddit meme of "Masturbation is healthy for you" (Maybe not unhealthy in moderation, but I definitely wouldn't place it on par with exercise).
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We want to have more sex because testosterone gives us a higher libido. It's as simple as that. IMO most men actually become less horny when in stable committed relationships, probably because there's no longer any scarcity of sex.
As for masturbation, it's not really a need but rather the easiest and quickest release valve for sexual urges -but it really isn't the only one-. It's like how some people relieve stress by screaming and punching everything while others try to soothe themselves by doing something productive.
Most nofaps and "save-till-marriage" types deal with it by distracting themselves with work or hobbies. Usually coomers have nothing else going on so the only thing they can do to stave off boredom is fapping.
 
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Sandshrew said:
Is sex really that important to moids, or do Indians on the internet just make all moids look bad? I've seen a lot of men who act like sex and masturbation is as vital to their lives as oxygen. But communities like r/NoFap challenge that idea, though I doubt anyone in NoFap is brown. Gooners seem to defend their addiction by saying, "All men are like this" / "What man doesn't watch porn?", but I have come across men that aren't obsessed with gooner shit, and some of them are even anti-porn.
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From my experience few points, fyi they're not ranked or anything. FOMO due to peer pressure, addiction, biological clock telling you to mate.
 
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parsnip said:
do you want to be friends?
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Okay.
Sandshrew said:
Is sex really that important to moids, or do Indians on the internet just make all moids look bad? I've seen a lot of men who act like sex and masturbation is as vital to their lives as oxygen. But communities like r/NoFap challenge that idea, though I doubt anyone in NoFap is brown. Gooners seem to defend their addiction by saying, "All men are like this" / "What man doesn't watch porn?", but I have come across men that aren't obsessed with gooner shit, and some of them are even anti-porn.
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It's a bit of both. To reduce the entire field of human behavioral biology into a couple sentences, women are incentivized to be extremely selective about who they mate with because they can only do it once every ten months, but men are incentivized to be relatively indiscriminate about who we mate with because we can do it like every ten minutes; we have the ability to propagate our genes with multiple partners essentially simultaneously, so we're wired to do it, and to prioritize it over most things because it is the prime directive of all organisms and it costs us practically nothing. Obviously all of that reasoning is less true in modern civilization than it is in nature, but tell that to millions of years of evolution.

That said, there are multiple massive psyops designed to exploit that drive, either for profit or to control behavior, often both, and it influences both how we think about sex and how we are perceived to think about sex. It is entirely possible and in fact very easy to not be coombrained, but you essentially have to not engage with porn at all to make it happen, which means you essentially have to not engage with social media or traditional media or the internet in general since all of those things are an opportunity for advertisers and e-whores to funnel you to pornographic content and they are utilized as such, which is a tradeoff most people aren't willing to make. Personally I have no problem with it because I hate social media and traditional media and the internet anyway so I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything, but I recognize I'm an outlier in that regard.

I did not read the rest because the waitress brought my check, goodbye.
 
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Sandshrew said:
Is sex really that important to moids, or do Indians on the internet just make all moids look bad?
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Part of it is played up by both media, part by men to other men. Media portray successful men as being with lots of women, or with a few very beautiful women. Between men you might seem like a loser if you can't get the ladies. Being able to casually talk about sex and your sexual conquests makes you look cool/confident/successful (although the men who tend to talk the loudest are usually the most insecure).
I've seen a lot of men who act like sex and masturbation is as vital to their lives as oxygen.
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Part of it is played up, "I'm a redblooded man that needs to get some". But men do tend to have a stronger sex drive. It can feel like scratching an itch, you can ignore it until it goes away, but scratching it is more satisfying and easier.
But communities like r/NoFap challenge that idea, though I doubt anyone in NoFap is brown.
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Of course masturbation isn't a physical need like food or air. Nofap are people that started masturbating so much it started to affect them, scratching until they bleed.
Gooners seem to defend their addiction by saying, "All men are like this" / "What man doesn't watch porn?",
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And addicts say that a ton of people drink. It's easier to deflect than to admit you have a problem.
but I have come across men that aren't obsessed with gooner shit
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The internet is not reflective of reality. A lot of people on the internet are people that cant cut it in real life interacting with real people. Probably with a dose of 'tism. You masturbate because it feels good, you masturbate because you can't get a woman, you masturbate because what else are you gonna do on a saturday night, you start autistically cataloguing porn because you're an autist that has to turn everything into a spreadsheet.

I also think a lot of people without a girlfriend conflate their desire for physical intimacy (hugging, cuddling, touching) with a desire for sex. That makes them seem hornier than they really are. They say they need a lot of sex, but what they really desire is a bit of sex, and a bit of physical closeness.

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Is it true most of you daydream about rescuing a princess from a tower?
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Only when I don't think about the Roman empire.
 
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