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Articles & Happenings is the third attempt at a news board on the Kiwi Farms. It is a cursed place. Every moderator who has been assigned here has resigned within a year. During 2016, the political crossfire was so bad it spread to different boards and culminated in me banning American news discussion entirely for several months. It has been deleted in its entirety twice. There is no actual discussion here, it's people posting garbage. It leans much further right than the rest of the site and doesn't particularly conduct discussion because dissenting opinions are dogpiled by a thousand memelords posting shit they read on /pol/ without any critical analysis.

The only rules that can be enforced are empirical ones with boolean violation answers. New threads must cite a real source directly and must use the headline of the article as a thread title without any editorializing. Articles must be archived in some way and must link to the original article. Replies that are one word or a reaction images are automatic one-month bans from the board.

I'm creating this now because it seems like this place is here to stay and is one of the largest areas of the entire site. I might as well throw in bare minimum effort to improve it. I don't even try to find mods for here because they will quit, without exception. I've added new prefixes ("Business" and "Crime") just now.

Discuss.


New threads should be made like this.
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Absolutego said:
People sick of the current circlejerk dominating A&H
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As opposed to the current circlejerk in nearly every On-Topic subforum and lolcow thread? See this post:

It's HK-47 said:
I'm incredibly Left-leaning and I've never had a problem in here. I'm mistaken for someone with a heavy Right-leaning bias all the time, but that's largely because I spend so much time railing on the DNC, because the current DNC isn't the one that I remember voting for and I absolutely hate what the party's turned into. A well-funded military, border enforcement, deportation of illegals and limited regulation/small government used to be Left-leaning opinions or in the very least bipartisan ones, and now all of those will get you labeled as a Mega Hitler. My politics never changed, the modern Left changed.

I'm still a tree-hugging Liberal who wants to see more things done to curb pollution and to see green energy technology grow by leaps and bounds, but I also understand that the technology just isn't there yet to make it a viable solution to the entire country's energy requirements. The issue that other Left-leaning people have when they come into A&H and have a bad experience is that they take things way too personally and they aren't good at presenting their arguments. From a lefty to a lefty: You are a bit of a bleeding heart.

That's not inherently a bad thing at all, but it does mean that there are a lot of appeals to emotion and arguments framed around emotion. A&H doesn't generally care for that and prefers sourced arguments or arguments that aren't laden with "I don't like X because it makes me feel bad." The culture of this board just doesn't trend in that direction, much the same way that the culture of other boards will change drastically from thread-to-thread. What "flies" in the Hamber board won't work in CWC's, which won't work in Phil's, which won't work in Hulkamania, etc. Every board has a different "culture" and A&H's is primarily unemotional text-walls and political shitposting.

The Christchurch thread was an absolute shit-show, but that was also a massive, internationally-recognized incident and an historical precedent that caused an enormous amount of strife and also drew KF into the spotlight when Null defied the New Zealand government. That pulled in a ton of edge-posters, but they barely did anything more than register for an account, post "muslims aren't human lol" and then leave. The people who shat up the Christchurch thread the most aren't people who stuck around.

Sure, there's loads of pointless replies and "haha niggers" posts in A&H and jokes that ran out their welcome 50 pages ago, but that's literally any thread on the entire Farms. Go look at Boogie's thread or Amber's subforum for example. You still see "Boogie is fat and I would not have sex with him." or "Hamber show us your LAYYRRGGS" on every single page. You just gotta' do the same thing here that you do in those boards: Just keep scrolling, they're not worth reading or getting upset about.
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The whole circlejerk/echo chamber/whatever argument is pretty retarded. Go onto the DSP board and try talking about how he's just some random guy who begs for money on Twitch and isn't particularly interesting, or the Tooter board and point out that harassing an elderly tranny who can barely function as it is seems a bit cruel, tell me how far you get with that.

Somehow, it's only a problem that requires massive amounts of bellyaching and bitching to the HNIC when it's the TDS thread in community watch, or A&H. Forgive me if I find that a bit suspicious given that what was bitched for was not only given, but then some, and yet still hasn't stopped. I'm going to point out here, that that's the same kind of behavior the loons on SA exhibited when they successfully got FYAD shut down not too long ago.

Also, to reiterate, the problem with Null's message wasn't that it was telling people not to post da joos shit outside of A&H, it's the collective blame as if though the regular posters of A&H are supposed to be responsible for every /pol/ sperg on the site, which is absolutely fucking retarded for reasons already pointed out multiple times across the past 10 pages.
 
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Unog said:
As opposed to the current circlejerk in nearly every On-Topic subforum and lolcow thread. See this post:
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Bringing up other, worse circlejerks because I called A&H one isn't helping your case. I don't visit those places because there's nothing interesting to read there outside of the same 4 memes over and over again drenched in middle-aged cattiness.
If you're content with A&H being the Amberlynn subforum for boomer Republicans, more power to you, I guess.
 
Absolutego said:
Bringing up other, worse circlejerks because I called A&H one isn't helping your case.
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I don't think A&H is a circlejerk, personally, but if people are going to call it one the least they can do is be intellectually honest about the fact that they don't find circlejerks a problem. Pointing out the discrepancy there is important if we're to believe that it's such a horrible thing that it must be stopped, yet nearly the rest of the site is full of them.

Absolutego said:
Bringing up other, worse circlejerks because I called A&H one isn't helping your case. I don't visit those places because there's nothing interesting to read there outside of the same 4 memes over and over again drenched in middle-aged cattiness.
If you're content with A&H being the Amberlynn subforum for boomer Republicans, more power to you, I guess.
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There's plenty of people in this section who are left leaning who aren't negrated or harangued or what have you. They're decent at providing arguments and evidence for their points, and are capable of interacting with conflicting opinions without getting so upset you can practically feel the spittle on their screen through their posts.

Somehow, that's always left out. Somehow, that's never relevant to this discussion. Weird, that.

Urist Steelthrone said:
Let's destroy all circlejerks.
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I agree, I nominate the circlejerk devoted to seething rage at a news subsection to be the first to get the axe.
 
Duke Nukem said:
Personally I take issue with people who claim that freedom of speech tends to attract racists, but while I can see where they're coming from, I think they're wrong and just looking for an excuse to censor people they don't like.
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Freedom of speech attracts whatever is currently unpopular enough that people want to censor it.

Duke Nukem said:
I wonder if they'll blame DA JOOZ if Null does decide to shutter the section?
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Yes because they do when it rains too.
 
AnOminous said:
Freedom of speech attracts whatever is currently unpopular enough that people want to censor it.



Yes because they do when it rains too.
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Perhaps that's the point, outlawing an opinion is silly at best. But if we start doing the same they can cry about "muh freezepeach discriminated gainst" and that's a can of worms we don't want to open. And LOL @ the thought of Hebrew rain dances ruining Nazi plans to go outside.
 
Absolutego said:
The main misinterpretation seems to be that Null telling edgelords to keep the politisperging in general, and jew sperging in particular, out of the rest of the site is a sign that a subforum banning is imminent.
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Let's face it, that is the general trajectory.
 
Duke Nukem said:
I don't understand why people are freaking out over the warning about political sperging in lolcow threads. As for me I like A&H because it's a more trustworthy source of news than CNN or MSLSD.
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If an internet forum with a variety of autists that are dedicated at laughing at retards on the internet is your empirical news source you are exceptional.
 
Superman93 said:
If an internet forum with a variety of autists that are dedicated at laughing at exceptional individuals on the internet is your empirical news source you are exceptional.
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The world is retarded. CNN is retarded.
 
Superman93 said:
If an internet forum with a variety of autists that are dedicated at laughing at exceptional individuals on the internet is your empirical news source you are exceptional.
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Better exceptional than relying on CNN. Fucking InfoWars is more trustworthy than them at this point.

AnOminous said:
The world is exceptional. CNN is exceptional.
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And at least here, you're allowed to laugh at the exceptionalism without getting banned for it.
 
Duke Nukem said:
Perhaps that's the point, outlawing an opinion is silly at best. But if we start doing the same they can cry about "muh freezepeach discriminated gainst" and that's a can of worms we don't want to open.
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You only Censor people who tell the truth...
I havent seen one good argument against a white ethnostate.
 
Stoneheart said:
You only Censor people who tell the truth...
I havent seen one good argument against a white ethnostate.
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I don't necessarily agree with you but hey, you do you. I just don't want that shit being the reason this section gets fried.

Personally I think we should consider a subsection for that kind of thing apart from A&H just as a containment zone.
 
Stoneheart said:
You only Censor people who tell the truth...
I havent seen one good argument against a white ethnostate.
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Argue when it's relevant, no censorship needed. If you want a spontaneous discussion, head over to Deep Thoughts and end up in the great company of things like "Which chimpunk has the biggest dick?" and "I just realized today is my birthday."

If you want to argue here, at least tie it back to an article or happening. A&H doesn't actually stand for "Autists & Hopelessness"
 
j666 said:
never said it's every A&H user. But the issue clearly stems from A&H
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It's funny. I can empathise with this sentiment. I know I'm not allowed to say this, but this is exactly how I feel about jews on a handful of political issues.
 
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