Let's Sperg APAMG: Dream Daddy - A dating sim with surprising moments, but save your $15

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We're one post in and this thread is already nearly as popular as my Final Fantasy 2 thread. Just goes to show, playing good games doesn't bring in the views, but bad games sure do.

I end up going with the badass tee, just because you can't be "badass" with a pink puff hairdo and horn rims.

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I've changed a few things around, so it's not exactly what I posted before. As I've already said, since trolling the game is the only relief I get, I'm naming him "Box Spooner".

After we finalize our name, Amanda asks if we fell asleep packing. One box is not sealed up, so we look inside instead of taping it shut and moving the fuck on. See, we're moving to a new neighborhood, and instead of going to the neighborhood and maybe having this scene when we're moving in, we're having it now because what is pacing.

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Also, Amanda is way to damn happy for someone who's about to get embarrassed by old photos.

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Then again, it seems like this scene is set up to allow us some background. Like here, we get to decide if we actually fucked a woman to make Amanda or if we adopted her. I decide to make my guy bisexual, since, after all, I know what's coming.

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I did not know that THAT was coming. Apparently Box Spooner was in a Ska band called the Skammunist Manifesto. The picture on the left was Halloween when Amanda was four, and going as "Princess Dragon", while the center one is her horse phase, as Box puts it.

More jokes and puns are thrown out. There is a choice we're given about what someone named Emma did, and I immediately choose "flaming tennis ball at the police station" only for the game to go "WRONG, That was you!" Don't give me choice just to instantly yank it away, game.

Eventually we get to the last picture, done in such a way where we can't see if it's a man or a woman, and decide if Amanda was born or adopted. Didn't we already do this? I choose born.

The fate of the mom is left vague. I choose to assume she died in a Tumblr related accident and that's why Box Spooner dresses like this.

After this, we finally get moving. There is nothing that happens this scene that couldn't have been done after moving to the new neighborhood, so here's why this scene doesn't work: Amanda was pushing us to wake up so we could get in the moving van, which seems to imply it's here and we're going to get to work moving so we can go. This scene takes that small momentum and slam dunks it away, and while it does set up the relationship between Box and Amanda, again, we could have done that after moving. Would have worked far better AFTER the move.

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STOP FUCKING REMINISCING! I just had a long ass talk about why you're fucking with the pacing!

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I would be lying if I said I didn't want to see this. So we're finally in the new house, after a conversation while driving, and a conversation outside.

This is why I hate dating sims. So much talking, no doing.

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Let's meet Daddy Number 1! And he comes with a plate of cookies, he is therefore already in the running for best character in the game. This is Joseph. Say hi, everyone.

We chat about kids, and Box says it would be crazy to try to raise more then two. Joseph off-handedly mentions he has four, and our internal monologue just goes "WHAT HAVE YOU DONE."

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Well I thought it was vague.

We decide to reset the conversation, by closing the door and Joseph reknocking. We're invited to a barbecue, and with that, we come to as good a stopping point as any.

NEXT TIME: Barbecue!
Ah, the super-in-the-closet Youth Minister. Wait until you meet the rest of his family.
 
If a guy who looked like Box Spooner moved in on my street I'd have a realtor on the phone by the end of the day. I have seen way too many horror movies to not know where things are headed when a creep like that moves into the neighborhood. I'm getting out of there before the demons show up.
 
If a guy who looked like Box Spooner moved in on my street I'd have a realtor on the phone by the end of the day. I have seen way too many horror movies to not know where things are headed when a creep like that moves into the neighborhood. I'm getting out of there before the demons show up.

Then I've done my job.

I really hope someone ends up using Box Spooner as their avatar before we're done. It would make me so very happy.
 
Whaaaaa, two updates in a day, Angelo you madman!

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Joseph, you must exist in a different reality then me if Box Spooner looks young to you.

We, by that I mean Box and Amanda, decide to take a break after Amanda eats all the cookies. Yes, all of them. I decide to get coffee, and the game helpfully informs me that the time and place for decaf coffee is "never" and "in the trash" during a loading screen. The game has helpful "dad tips" during the loading screens. Most are bad jokes, but some are actually useful advice or chuckle worthy.

We head to a coffee place, and Box launches into a diatribe about all the negatives of a coffee shop. Amanda asks if we're afraid to meet new people and Box replies with YES AMANDA. The Tumblr comparisons are astounding.

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I have no reason to suspect, since this guy gets a full art, that this is Dad number 2, Mat. Say hi, everyone.

I ask for it Black, and Mat explodes with hearts. Like, seriously, a cloud of hearts came out from behind him, like asking for the Godspeed You! Black Coffee causes him to fart 'em out.

Mat actually has a character so far, in that he tends to lose himself in tangents. It actually reminds me of how I would talk if I had someone who listened and never interrupted me, I would just go off on tangents of things I liked.

Amanda seems to be the one pushing us to become friends with all the major characters, making her our own Love Fairy, and I'm so sorry that I just compared this game to Huniepop.

Mat then asks us to name a new banana bread, and we're only given the option to do Dad band puns. My options are Banana Bread Kennedys, Grateful (Banana) Bread, and Right Said Banana Bread. I go for Right Said because of the slight rhyme. Selecting that causes another heart fart. I seem to be on the right track with Mat.

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We get a glimpse of Bad Dad from across the way. Hoo boy. Luckily it's only a cameo and I don't have to deal with someone doing his best George Clooney impression.

George Clooney I'm so sorry.

We finish our drinks and I elect to get some fresh air with a walk in the park. Why, what will happen next?

NEXT TIME (and it should be accurate this time!): The Park!
 
If the achievements are any indication, we're not even out of Chapter 1 yet.

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OH MY GOD IT'S A PUPPY! This game gets an automatic 2 points on the good game scale.

We got hit by a frisbee is why the dog is coming up to us, and the owner of said dog comments that you usually catch frisbees with your hands, not your face. I tell him it's a new technique, and like Mat, he farts hearts.

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One way or another, meet Dad Number 3, Brian. Say hi, everyone. The dog is called Maxwell.

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Brian has a daughter named Daisy. At this point I'm starting to get very frightened by the sheer number of characters we'll need to keep track of. Right now we're up to Amanda, Joseph, Brian, his daughter Daisy, Mat, Maxwell, and we haven't even met half the Dads or any of Joseph's four kids. Save me.

Brian talks a bit more about how amazing Daisy is as a reader, Box's "Natural Dad Instincts" kick in and now he must brag about Amanda...

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And the game fucking genre shifts on me into classic black and white Pokemon. Wait, WHAT?!

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We even get to control it.

I do my best, but without knowing how things work and what does a lot of damage, I end up losing. Amanda does kind of kick ass when it comes to intellectual pursuits.

After the battle, Amanda and Box agree that Brian was trying to one up us. Regardless, he's actually kinda nice, and hopefully we get to see a bit more of him. I may have to go his route, in at least one run.

After this, it's time for a nap. Dad Tip 38 tells me the Extended Cut is the only cut worth watching, and as I do love Blade Runner, I'm inclined to agree. Fucking theatrical cut...

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I thought we were new to the neighborhood, game. Why are you throwing in a character I apparently know despite me, the player, having never seen him before?

This is Dad Number 4, Craig. Say hi, everyone.

I love the look the baby has on their face. It's like the baby knows what game their in and wants out badly.

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Craig mentions he cleaned up his act as Box introduces Amanda. He was down in California and moved the business up here, and also recently got divorced. He also jogs daily, and invites us along for the ride, though probably starting tomorrow because we've met far too many people so far.

Back home, Amanda drops some hints about moving away to college in a few months. Game, I just met her, don't immediately take her away from me! I like Amanda, she's one of the most likeable people in this game.

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Art School to be a photography major? Nevermind, Amanda can fuck right off.

Amanda will be having friends over tonight and we graciously decide to leave because we're painfully uncool. How much you wanna bet we're going to meet Bad Dad?

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We meet Dad...I mean...wait a second. This isn't in the script!

Anyway, this is Mary. I buy her a drink and ask for the latest gossip, thankfully both of those being choices I can make. She doesn't divulge because she's a steel trap. If this game shuts down any more of my choices, I'm going to find the writers and punch them. This is not good storytelling! It's not good writing to give the players a choice and then say no for seemingly no reason. The game doesn't even have "it's only the illusion of choice!" like Bioshock Infinite did, because some of my choices seem to have an effect on people's opinions of me, like the heart farts Mat and Brian had.

Mary saunters off after a little more chatting, and we get into a bit of a heated debate with bad dad over teams while we watch "The Game". Couldn't have even called it football or something? Let us fill in the blanks? Box's preferred team wins, and we salute bad dad even though his team lost. He buys us a glass of Whiskey and we get a bit closer.

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Bad Dad's name is Robert. Say fuck off, everyone.

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We have a bit of a chat, take some shots, and then this bit of inner monologue pops up. Who thinks like this? The voice of the Inner Monologue does not match any "dad" I've ever met, but it sure as hell matches the inner voice of the target audience.

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Okay, if I came into this game 100% blind, this line right here would tell me this game was written by stereotypes. Cause all women love bad boys, right? And all gay guys love bad boys? Box's inner monologue is selling Robert hard, and I'm not sure I agree with it. See, I've played Huniepop, and while the Love Fairy pushes for you to date everyone, she's fairly even in how much she lays it on. Robert gets a ton of shilling, more then anyone else we've met. Craig got some, but it was counterbalanced by embarrassing college stories.

If the dev team makes any sort of rumbling that Robert is the canon ending, I'm going to kill someone.

Robert gets more shilling when he heads to the bathroom from Neil the friendly bartender. Again, gonna kill someone. We head on out together, making Robert the first Dad that follows us through a scene change. He none too subtly asks us inside with a question of "are we doing this or not?" Deciding not to commit, I say no thanks and head home.

I'm apparently not even out of Chapter 1, but after falling asleep for the night, fuck it, I'm taking a break. Please send me booze. I need more.
 
A+ reporting so far, Angelo! There seems to be a suspiciously high number of conveniently single gay men with children in this town, and the fact that all of them want to meet Box Spooner is making it hilariously awful.

Good job on Box, by the way. Fucking hideous.

Yeah, as far as I know, Mat and Robert are the only two out of five-fucking five-we've met that are single bachelors. I'm sure if I looked it up on the wiki then at least one of them has a kid too, but I'm purposefully not going to the wiki and attempting to limit my exposure to just the game itself.

All the dads we've met live on the cul-de-sac we moved into, by the way. But at least I'll give this one a pass because it's part of the genre-that's just how dating sims go, and at some point you need to ask yourself if you want to play a dating sim or not. It also lets the game give us the set up of a tight knit neighborhood that we're moving into, which is a positive.

Also, Steam tells me I have played both Dream Daddy and Huniepop for the same length of time. We have just reached the end of the first night, and while I could have slept with Robert, I didn't feel like having the Bad Dad achievement hanging over me and getting some weird looks from my Steam friends list. At this point in Huniepop, however, I had already banged the Asian chick. Dream Daddy is already slow to get going and I don't expect every game to be a massive thrill ride, but by 2 hours in I at least expect to be able to make my own choices of who I want to hang out with.
 
There's going to be a moment where Amanda asks what you want to do for dinner, and you're have s few options. I'm not going to say why, but take the "mall food court" option.
 
Dude I'm enjoying this report so far. I wouldn't recommend the youth minister's route first, it turns out that you can't actually get his "good" ending because the devs forgot to code it into the game or something.
 
Dude I'm enjoying this report so far. I wouldn't recommend the youth minister's route first, it turns out that you can't actually get his "good" ending because the devs forgot to code it into the game or something.
You sure you're not thinking of the fake Halloween one?
 
Alright, fuck it. We're just ballin' through this, I want this monkey off my back as soon as I can.

So by now you know my major gripes: The writing's shit, the coding's shit, and the art is the only thing I can recommend. I'm not going to keep banging on those drums anymore unless something really pisses me off or is another amateur mistake, like how Box's inner voice doesn't match what his character of a loving father is supposed to be.

We have two dads left to meet.

We get a text the next morning from Craig asking if we still wanna work out. It's at 6, so we immediately go back to sleep, but then Craig texts us again if we want to get our swole on, and we decide to join him. This is a positive in the writing department. We have a character, Box Spooner, who could very easily say no, but the reader doesn't want to read about all the ways he could say no. There's a minor bit where he thinks about saying no, then decides to do it. Readers like characters who take some form of action, and I heartily request that if any of you are planning on doing any sort of writing, drill that into your skull.

We actually get a choice, and I decide gym, because even I want some action to happen.

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He didn't bring his daughter, a character so dynamic and lasting that I have literally already forgotten her name despite seeing her in this morning's update.

A choice comes up after him asking if I'm ready to kick butt. I humbly request his aid because after all, I am out of shape, and this causes a heart fart. I feel like all the social boss fights in Human Revolution prepared me for this. Inside I get a choice to describe a person's movement on a machine and compare it to religious flagellation for one's sins.

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Craig agrees.

Another choice comes up when Craig asks what I do for fun, and with my choices of "Learning", "Living like a Jimmy Buffet Song", and "checking out my hot bod", I rule out the last one as a lie. The only Jimmy Buffet song I know is Margaritaville, so I choose learning. This causes another particle explosion. Craig likes me, I guess.

After a small story involving stealing a fish from a party and being given a protein shake, Box decides to head out. At what point do I become the master of my own destiny in this bloody game? This is a dating sim and for fuck's sake let me chose which yard-long pole of man meat I wanna suck on!

Box wakes up after a nap in a panic, and rushes to school to have a meeting with Mr. Vega, who I'm betting is Dad Hero 6. Box can't remember where the room is, so we ask...

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...a kid who I fucking guarantee is Goth Dad's kid. He sends us on a wild gosling chase upstairs instead of helping us, and Box compares him to a low-rent Gerard Way, making it officially the first funny line of dialogue that I didn't make him think. Personally I just wanna kick his ass for that stupid belt, I mean jesus christ.

We're lucky enough to have Mr. Vega pop out and reprimand this prick.

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This is Hugo Vega, Dad Number 6. Say hi, everyone.

We get to sit in on Hugo's class about Catcher in the Rye, confirming that the writers have at least heard of books that are not YA Fiction but as the discussion amounts to stating that the book has an unreliable narrator and some kid making a fart noise with his elbow, I'm not convinced the writers actually read the fucking thing.

Hugo lets us in that Amanda has been falling behind on work, and what follows is perhaps the one scene where Box actually acts in line with the tiny bit of characterization we got in the opening with those photos. See, the game paints Box as a dad that cares about and loves his daughter, but then spends all the time we meet with the other dads completely going against that-unless you count the Pokemon Battle with Brian. Box is concerned, and we have a chat about it.

He asks if anything's wrong, and I say that we did just move across town. By the way, I'm getting it down to a point where if it's inner monologue or Box acting independently, I'll say that Box says it, and if it's a choice, then I'll write that "I" said it. So this one was a dialogue choice. Everybody got that?

Hugo asks us to talk to Amanda. On the way out, Box asks if they ever did catch that Rye, and Hugo heart farts from our awful pun. That's strange. Heart farts only happen from my choices, I thought. Or maybe that pun only happens if I picked we just moved. Regardless, "heart farts" is a hilarious phrase and I'm going to use it a lot. Heart farts heart farts heart farts.

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@SteelPlatedHeart already told us about this. I probably would have picked food court anyway, simply because my knowledge of narrative structure tells me "the more I'm out of the house, the better". Box attempts to get Amanda to talk about what's going on in Vega's class, and Amanda does not want to talk about it. Box chooses not to push the issue.

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I'm pretty sure that happened when I went to a certain mall in Seattle. So at least I know what I'm getting into.

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Box asks about memes. Amanda sighs. Was this what you meant, SteelPlatedHeart? Because the cringe is so strong I have evolved from whiskey and coke to just drinking my bottle of Black Velvet straight.

Amanda does her best to explain it, saying that it's an inside joke shared by a group of people that gets less funny the more people know about it, and that by the time it gets to Box, it's been worn into the ground, and then tv tries getting in on it and it all goes to hell. Technically by the time it gets to Twitter, 4chan's already driven it into the ground, but I'm pretty sure if I said "4chan" around Amanda she'd either be confused or her head would explode from raeg. The subject is swiftly changed, it was literally just a couple paragraphs of pure cringe and I am saving you by not posting those screens. And why the fuck do I need memes explained to me? I know Box is a fucking dumbass but the only people playing this game are well fucking versed in memes.

We change the subject, and Box suggests going to "that goth store". Well, I guess we have to crowbar in Dad number 7, don't we?

Box tries dancing around the name of the place, but it's literally Hot Topic. He calls it "that place that tries to make itself anti-establishment while literally being the establishment", it's fucking Hot Topic. They don't say the name, probably because it would have gotten them all of the sued.

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I mean look at this place. They just took a picture of Hot Topic and did it up in their art style.

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Oh it's actually called Dead, Goth, and Beyond. Kill me. (The context: Amanda is forcing us to give a speech about her throwing up in this place, and the outline is still here. She's a high school senior from what Mr. Vega was saying. When I was a senior I didn't give a shit about where I threw up)

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No. No you would not.

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And now my immersion is just completely ruined. I know some goth chicks, buddy, and they would not be caught dead shopping at a place like this. Online or otherwise.

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So it turns out Vlad Dracul that just left is Damien, Dad Number 7. He's not here, so we can't say hi, everyone.

We turn in for the night after this and a brief scene about Long Haul Paranormal Ice Road Truckers, which I would actually watch. Stop making me think of better things, game. The loading screen in between days has the audacity to give me a "Not Responding" message on my title bar, so add that to the growing list of evidence about how shit Unity is, because it's loading a BLACK FUCKING SCREEN.

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We're finally at that BBQ Joseph told us about, who wants to bet our 7 dads will be here?

We get to meet the family. The twins do the thing from the Shining where they're just creepy, and Mary is here too.

Yes, the Mary from the bar. The one who sorta flirted with us. Joseph's route is going to end in the messiest of divorces, isn't it?

We get to see the other 6 dads, so yes, I called it. Box wonders if everyone lives in our cul-de-sac, and game, you don't have to point out the strange coincidences, that's my job.

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Hugo and Mat are having an art discussion. Both Craig and the baby do not want to be here.

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Mat has a daughter. Insert your own easy joke about black stereotypes here. Hugo also has a child, who's totally not part of your system man, and doesn't like talking to old dudes who blame him for the failing economy, yes that is an actual line of dialogue from Ernest Hemingway Vega. I'm all out of Black Velvet.

A long discussion follows with the four of us all worried if we're cool dads, which I don't get because my parents never gave a shit about being cool, they gave a shit about raising me with manners and basic human decency. Neither of which I show on the Farms, but we can't have everything.

Brian and Robert are talking. We talk about camping. Robert talks about his buddy "Johnnyboy" who broke his ankle when a rope bridge they were crossing snapped.

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...You know what, I take it back. I like Robert. Who the fuck was in charge of writing him? I gotta shake that guy's hand.

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And now I take back the take back, fuck you game!

The final conversation is between Joseph and Damien. Damien does all the stereotypes, and it angers me.

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Walking into the DGB was your first mistake, Daddy-o.

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Does anyone have a working Tumblr to English translator? Mine's too old, it didn't get the latest software patch.

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Hmm, how do I put this gently to the Stephen King twins and yes they do speak in unison?

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Damien's son, who is that punk from school, shows off a 666 tattoo. Joseph doesn't immediately freak out, and merely says that tattoos should be meaningful to the person who has it and that that number carries weight.

Every dad then chimes in with grill puns. This game is so frustrating. There are so many great moments, but then it all gets slammed the fuck down. Stop with the Dad jokes, they're not helping.

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We're told to add everyone on Dadbook, and I get the feeling that "Dadbook" will be the UI we use to arrange our dates and stuff. So perhaps we're finally getting out of Chapter 1 and into the part where we get to choose, which is great because I think this post is longer then all my other updates combined.

Of course, even though Chapter 1 is complete, the game bogs us down. We get a scene of us walking home, a scene of waiting up for her to come home from hanging out with friends, a scene of us in the morning, and WHEN DOES IT FUCKING END?

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Oh, now apparently. Finally. Well, the post is getting long, so we're going to cut it here and we'll fill it out with the next update.
 
Sounds like a typical dating sim, only with a bit of self-awareness to it. A lot of that dialogue is pretty clearly being intentionally dumb. Thing is, I don't think the tumblrites playing don't actually get that it's self-aware.

I also did speed past the night and morning scenes a bit. Depending on dialogue choices, it actually becomes very heartwarming. I chose that "I was scared" and what followed was a scene where Box and Amanda both sort of realize they're all they have in terms of family. The morning scene was also pretty nice too. There's someone on the writing team who quite clearly knows what they're doing and has the seeds of a wonderful idea in their head, but is being bogged down by another team-mate (let's call him "Gonad" in honor of Zero Punctuation's Alone in the Dark review) who's suggesting more stupid jokes and Tumblr memes. Like that bit in the food court? 100% Gonad.

Also, the array of BBQ puns was chuckle worthy.

I don't know who you are, good writer on the team, but your valiant effort is saluted. Semper Fidelis, and may you find more success in the future. Everyone else can choke on a rainbow colored dildo.
 
So who are you choosing to date first Angelo? I'd go with Hugo, myself.

Surprisingly, I'm kind of wanting to go with Damien, if only to see how bad the dialogue gets. For similar reasons I want to go down Robert's route, I'm curious if the hand of the writer can be felt anymore in that path. Craig is also in there because I want to see if they can do an entire conversation of nothing but "Bro".
 
From what I've seen, the characters start opening up more and become a little less stereotype once you start hanging out individually with them. There's a pretty cute scene with the creep twins with Joseph's first hangout
 
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