Any Stargate fans?

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Your favorite?

  • SG-1

    Votes: 134 86.5%

  • Atlantis

    Votes: 13 8.4%

  • Universe

    Votes: 8 5.2%

  • Origins

    Votes: 0 0.0%
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Screamer_2 said:
I still don't get why they fucked it all up with, "we want more prestige TV like Battlestar Galactica." I even remember at the time looking it up and Stargate did better ratings. However, it is then the people who decided to rebrand the Sci-Fi channel to SyFy and move away from Sci-Fi, making the channel irrelevant.
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Yeah, all their shows started to lose viewers as Syfy was moving to WWE and scripted shows.
 
Miller said:
That was the plan originally. The 8th season moved the focus on the SGC business to prepare for the spin-off "Stargate Command" but I believe Sci-Fi/Syfy wanted to continue SG-1.
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I wonder if they kept SG-1 going just to keep the lights on for Atlantis more than anything else. From the start, they were dealt a bad hand from RDA wanting to leave, as O'Neill was one of the major cornerstones of the show and really helped hold it all together. Contract said the showrunners were obligated for 2 more years though, had to do something, I guess.
 
Migraine Box said:
I wonder if they kept SG-1 going just to keep the lights on for Atlantis more than anything else. From the start, they were dealt a bad hand from RDA wanting to leave, as O'Neill was one of the major cornerstones of the show and really helped hold it all together. Contract said the showrunners were obligated for 2 more years though, had to do something, I guess.
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I think Syfy wanted SG-1 to reach the magic number of 10 seasons.
Speaking of contracts, the reason why Carter became the head of Atlantis is because Amanda Tapping had signed for another season of SG-1 before Syfy pulled the plug.
 
The actress that played Weir was the reason the character was written out of the show. She was unhappy in the role or something. Amanda Tappings' season 10 contract had an option for a s11 which was used to bring her into Atlantis.

Looking into it, SyFy was finding SG1 too expensive. Contract renewals for s11 onwards would increase the cost. SyFy paid 1/3 of the production budget. It was a similar story with SGA. It was cheaper to make SGU than continue SGA with contract renewals and increased wages.

There was also the issues of SyFy wanting to change up it's line ups, have cheaper shows and more ownership. Shows like Battlestar were produced by their parent company NBC Universal. So a different dynamic was at play. MGM was making money on international sales and DVDs from Stargate.
 
I think SGA lost some of the magic it had when they got back in contact with Earth. When they were plucky interlopers squatting on an ancient island city on another galaxy trying to figure out wtf is going on and not get deathsucked it was kind of a new interesting dynamic. Like early SG1 when they were still nobodies trying to find allies and avoid the goold. But once two way travel was reestablished all they did was take on SG1s baggage with all the overpowered stuff they accumulated over the 10 years of that show now being at the disposal of the Atlantis team.

I think they should have handled it like Voyager where they were eventually able to contact home and send letters to family and what not, but that's it. No gate relay, no daedelus round trips.
 
los pepes said:
I think SGA lost some of the magic it had when they got back in contact with Earth. When they were plucky interlopers squatting on an ancient island city on another galaxy trying to figure out wtf is going on and not get deathsucked it was kind of a new interesting dynamic. Like early SG1 when they were still nobodies trying to find allies and avoid the goold. But once two way travel was reestablished all they did was take on SG1s baggage with all the overpowered stuff they accumulated over the 10 years of that show now being at the disposal of the Atlantis team.

I think they should have handled it like Voyager where they were eventually able to contact home and send letters to family and what not, but that's it. No gate relay, no daedelus round trips.
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Honestly, I think they ran that concept pretty dry by the end of the first season. There were like, what, 100 people sent on the expedition? At minimum 30 of those had already died over the course of the season, and they only could've carried so much 5.7x28mm, so there's no way in hell they could've realistically held out much longer.

Voyager also played fast and loose with the idea, but at least they were smart enough to not kill a bunch of crewmembers every couple of episodes. Really wish they stuck more with the initial concepts, ie no Federation drydocks, shipyards, or stations to conduct repairs, so every hit they took would've been patched over with whatever they could scavenge. The idea was when she finally returned home, the Voyager would bare little resemblance to a Starfleet vessel. They dropped the idea of truly long-lasting repercussions, aesthetic or otherwise, fairly early to make it easier for syndication and to follow along out-of-order, ala TNG.
 
Migraine Box said:
Voyager also played fast and loose with the idea, but at least they were smart enough to not kill a bunch of crewmembers every couple of episodes. Really wish they stuck more with the initial concepts, ie no Federation drydocks, shipyards, or stations to conduct repairs, so every hit they took would've been patched over with whatever they could scavenge. The idea was when she finally returned home, the Voyager would bare little resemblance to a Starfleet vessel. They dropped the idea of truly long-lasting repercussions
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Not to turn this into a Star Trek thread (too late)...

I remember when Trek tried to get all serialized, Trekkies freaked out like their mom remarried. VOY was the funniest version of that. The original showrunner clearly wanted to make Deep Space Nine 2. By season three they fired his ass.

Weren't fans were complaining about the chevrons not spinning the right way? So, Atlantis became SG-1. And then Stargate Universe tried to be all dark and serialized like Battlestar Galactica and everyone was like Boo.
spaztocate9000 said:
I liked the movie with James Spader, but the shows with fucking McGuyver weren't my thing.
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INDEED. The man built a career on raising one eyebrow and going “uhhh, that happened.”

I hated that era of TV where every hero had to be a wiseass.

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RDA did interviews where he spoke to real Generals and they told him Air Force Colonels act just like Jack. Oh, I’m sure. The Pentagon is full of guys doing bits. There’s a difference between Maverick and Sgt. Bilko.

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los pepes said:
I think SGA lost some of the magic it had when they got back in contact with Earth. When they were plucky interlopers squatting on an ancient island city on another galaxy trying to figure out wtf is going on and not get deathsucked it was kind of a new interesting dynamic. Like early SG1 when they were still nobodies trying to find allies and avoid the goold. But once two way travel was reestablished all they did was take on SG1s baggage with all the overpowered stuff they accumulated over the 10 years of that show now being at the disposal of the Atlantis team.

I think they should have handled it like Voyager where they were eventually able to contact home and send letters to family and what not, but that's it. No gate relay, no daedelus round trips.
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I agree. I think the showrunners learned from that mistake when they made SGU. Sure, the Icarus crew was able to use the Ancient stones but it was more of a hit or miss given the way the SGC reverse-engineered the technology made it less secured and introduced side-effects.
I've been rewatching Atlantis recently and to me the second season felt like a soft reboot and I wish they had remained separated from Earth. The writers had a new galaxy to play with and they barely did anything with it.
 
Captain Syrup said:
Weren't fans were complaining about the chevrons not spinning the right way? So, Atlantis became SG-1. And then Stargate Universe tried to be all dark and serialized like Battlestar Galactica and everyone was like Boo.
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Stargate Universe was a great premise. But they spent way to long on the interpersonal melodrama. There should have been less "General Hospital" and more "Call of Cthulhu."
 
Miller said:
Yeah, all their shows started to lose viewers as Syfy was moving to WWE and scripted shows.
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SGU's timeslot was moved atleast twice to accommodate WWE or other reality show crap iirc.

mindlessobserver said:
Stargate Universe was a great premise. But they spent way to long on the interpersonal melodrama. There should have been less "General Hospital" and more "Call of Cthulhu."
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First half to 3/4 of season 1 killed a lot of the momentum with that before they found their footing.
 
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Captain Syrup said:
I hated that era of TV where every hero had to be a wiseass.

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RDA did interviews where he spoke to real Generals and they told him Air Force Colonels act just like Jack. Oh, I’m sure. The Pentagon is full of guys doing bits. There’s a difference between Maverick and Sgt. Bilko.

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To be fair, those pics are from an episode where he was stuck in a Groundhog Day-esque time loop for like, three months. Cut him some slack there...

Unrelated, but I caught most of the original film on TV the other day and...man, looking back on everything that followed, they really did my man Daniel dirty. I need a version of that O'Brian meme but with him instead
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Ultraman Orb Dark said:
Yeah, he was very close to going...
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I love the idea that “Jack loses it” is gonna look different from your standard-issue Jack i.e. Bill Murray in Stripes.
Migraine Box said:
Unrelated, but I caught most of the original film on TV the other day and...man, looking back on everything that followed, they really did my man Daniel dirty. I need a version of that O'Brian meme but with him instead
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His wife dies and then he spends the rest of the show covering up proof that he was right the whole time.

The whole Stargate program is supposedly top-secret, but everyone in the US, Russia, China knows about it. The actual public doesn't. Wouldn’t want mass panic, right? But the aliens just… get to walk around on Earth? Go produce movies, start a career, just don’t talk about the Stargate.:blart:
 
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Stargate is heading to the United Kingdom to set up the new show’s production headquarters this year, GateWorld has learned.

London will serve as home to the main stages and production office for the fourth live-action series in the franchise, which is created and executive produced by Martin Gero (Stargate Atlantis, Blindspot). Amazon MGM Studios officially announced the project in November, and the series will stream globally on Prime Video. (Watch the video below for the original announcement.)

While the main stages will be in London, the show will be shot all over the world, a source tells GateWorld. Production is slated to begin in the fall of 2026, with the studio currently discussing a possible September start.

This timetable comports with Gero’s statement to fans last month that the first season will be in production for approximately two years before it premieres. Several months of principal photography that stretch into 2027 will be followed by post-production and visual effects work, as well as the process of localization that will allow for a simultaneous global release in multiple languages.

Stargate consulting producer Joseph Mallozzi has confirmed that the writers’ room is now in full swing in the Los Angeles area. The group officially began work on January 12 and has been spinning ideas, sketching out character arcs, breaking stories, and determining who will write each script over the coming weeks.

The greater London area is a logical place for the big-budget series to set up shop: aside from the usual tax incentives, Amazon MGM Studios owns or leases substantial studio space at locations including Shepperton Studios in Surrey (leased to Amazon and Netflix) and the historic Bray Film Studios in Berkshire, which Amazon MGM Studios acquired in 2024.

Although the final title not yet set, “Stargate” will be produced by Safehouse Pictures — helmed by executive producers Joby Harold and Tory Tunnell. Also on the production slate are Quinn’s House Productions (Gero’s shingle), Electric Entertainment (Dean Devlin), Centropolis Entertainment (Roland Emmerich), and Amazon MGM Studios.
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So the studio will be in London, for tax purposes I guess. I'll miss the Vancouver forests, lol.
 
Miller said:
So the studio will be in London, for tax purposes I guess. I'll miss the Vancouver forests, lol.
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Due to the global shortage of sound stages and the shift in how productions are made in the streaming age. Studios commit to long-term leases of soundstages, with a permanent production infrastructure. It's just more efficient to use this across multible productions. Amazon / MGM have these studios and production services set up in the UK. That's the main reason.

Also, they say it'll shoot globally, Morocco to substitute for Egypt isn't that far away and far superior to that patch of grey sand they used for every desert location in Vancouver.
 
mindlessobserver said:
Stargate Universe was a great premise. But they spent way to long on the interpersonal melodrama. There should have been less "General Hospital" and more "Call of Cthulhu."
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I liked that there was a young uneducated jewish kid capable of unraveling the mysteries of the cosmos where every earth goy failed, and this becomes the plot of every episode.
 
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