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>SnK crashes and burns as hard as possible
>Miura dies before Berserk is finished
I'm really hoping nothing bad happens to Togashi now.
He really should write a novel for the hxh it would be less work and more in character what he doing in the throne war.
It could have been worse. He could have died and Guts & co could have been stuck on that fucking boat forever.

Unless we had a ending in sight like how to kill the "god" or what Gut will do to break the circle, the sentiment will always be uncompleted work. I hope that the "training assistants" and drafts are true not bullshit.
 
What is it with mangaka passing away way before their time? RIP man. I hope he planned parts of it out so people can either continue it or at least let people know how he was thinking of ending it. This guy's work was genuinely inspirational for a lot of medium, most famously for Dark Souls.
There's several reasons. The job first and foremost is killer. Combined with Japan's workplace culture, these artists can work themselves to death. For example, One Piece's artist is forced by his publisher to take a week off on a regular basis otherwise he'll work himself into the hospital. Unfortunately, not all artists are seen as valuable and don't have the same kind of policy in place for them.

There's also the high number of chain smokers in Japan. Combined with the reality that sitting at a desk for hundreds of hours at a time doesn't lead to the healthiest lifestyle can lead to predictable results.

And lastly there's Japan's terrible mental health care. They have many advances in the medical field but the stigma of mental health and publicly asking for help to your problems really sets back Japan in dealing with mental illness.
 
There's several reasons. The job first and foremost is killer. Combined with Japan's workplace culture, these artists can work themselves to death. For example, One Piece's artist is forced by his publisher to take a week off on a regular basis otherwise he'll work himself into the hospital. Unfortunately, not all artists are seen as valuable and don't have the same kind of policy in place for them.

There's also the high number of chain smokers in Japan. Combined with the reality that sitting at a desk for hundreds of hours at a time doesn't lead to the healthiest lifestyle can lead to predictable results.

And lastly there's Japan's terrible mental health care. They have many advances in the medical field but the stigma of mental health and publicly asking for help to your problems really sets back Japan in dealing with mental illness.
Or there could be a far more mundane explanation like his family has a history of heart disease. I know a guy who's dad and grandfather were both dead at 40 from heart defects and he'll probably die young too.
 
Or there could be a far more mundane explanation like his family has a history of heart disease. I know a guy who's dad and grandfather were both dead at 40 from heart defects and he'll probably die young too.
The poster I'm responding to didn't ask why Miura specifically died. At the moment we have no idea what led to the aortic rupture. They asked why do mangaka seem to have an abnormally high death rate compared to other creative professions.

Just look at how many times artists (ones working for weekly publications in particular) have to take time off and cite health reasons. And that's just ones who are comfortable sharing it publicly. Is it possible that many have family history with disease that lead to chronic back pain and several other problems? Sure. But for it to be so rampant that it's common knowledge that being a manga artist is hazardous to your health? I don't think so.

Just look at the average work schedule.
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There's several reasons. The job first and foremost is killer. Combined with Japan's workplace culture, these artists can work themselves to death. For example, One Piece's artist is forced by his publisher to take a week off on a regular basis otherwise he'll work himself into the hospital. Unfortunately, not all artists are seen as valuable and don't have the same kind of policy in place for them.

There's also the high number of chain smokers in Japan. Combined with the reality that sitting at a desk for hundreds of hours at a time doesn't lead to the healthiest lifestyle can lead to predictable results.

And lastly there's Japan's terrible mental health care. They have many advances in the medical field but the stigma of mental health and publicly asking for help to your problems really sets back Japan in dealing with mental illness.
It's always been that way. There's a story about how Shigeru Mizuki met up with Osamu Tezuka and Shotaro Ishinomori and talked about how much sleep they were getting. The latter two regularly pulled all-nighters, while Mizuki got eight hours of sleep no matter what.

Of course, Tezuka and Ishinomori both died when they were sixty, and Mizuki lived to a ripe old age. There's a lesson for you there.
 
It's really sad to see a great talent go so early. I always held off on reading past the first couple arcs of Berserk due to the very slow release schedule, but I've always thought fondly of what I did read. Very curious to see just how many creators, both from Japan and outside, voice their sadness over his passing. It's always sad hearing about a creator dying before being able to see the end of their works or due to health being unable to continue no matter how much they'd like to.

I'm not even sure if Berserk will be one of those series that receives any new work without him. There's a pretty common idea of not touching the work of passed creators for fear of tarnishing their legacy by messing up the ending, like with the HoTD manga. I remember there were similar talks after the kyoani fire about some series maybe not getting anything new just because of some of the main minds behind them ended up dying. It probably depends on what Miura himself thought and if he had anything planned out, most cases they respect the author's opinion.
 
The members of Skullknight.net asked Miura questions, including about his working shedule and he said:

"I start working at 2:00 PM and I finish at 7:00 AM. Of course, the time I spend eating is included. I work 15-16 hours everyday, without holidays."
 
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The poster I'm responding to didn't ask why Miura specifically died. At the moment we have no idea what led to the aortic rupture. They asked why do mangaka seem to have an abnormally high death rate compared to other creative professions.

Just look at how many times artists (ones working for weekly publications in particular) have to take time off and cite health reasons. And that's just ones who are comfortable sharing it publicly. Is it possible that many have family history with disease that lead to chronic back pain and several other problems? Sure. But for it to be so rampant that it's common knowledge that being a manga artist is hazardous to your health? I don't think so.

Just look at the average work schedule.
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What's even more horrifying about this is that this is considered an "easy" schedule with all the sleep hours reserved. Normal/non-famous Mangaka are lucky to get 4 hours a day. (Usually with 2 all nighters a week.) It's even worse if you're a no name, very low pay and you usually have to part time for shit wages as an assistant to another mangaka. (Miura was one of the very few ones who actually paid his assistants as full time workers. Many were actually able to buy homes and get married under him.)

Most of them live near convenience stores and just live off quick noodles and rice they can pick up. Only the most successful get time to date/start a family and most don't consider buying homes/condos because they need to be close to their office studio. This has lead to hoarding situations when they use their apartments as office space and they just don't have time to clean/maintain them. Also, chain smoking and smoking in general is still really, really bad in Japan. Mouth/throat cancers and all the other negative side effects that come with it are way higher. Energy drinks have also become the new thing recently and I wouldn't be surprised at all if we saw a sudden rash of kidney failures in about 10 years. Many of them are drinking 3-4 cans a day.

Even top tier talent like Oda has to take time off. Thankfully, his publisher realized just how much of a cash cow he is and forces him to take time off. Most other publishers would be like, "Where is the draft/manuscript bitch? If it's not on my desk by x o'clock you're fired"

Those that actually make it to old age usually full retire to enjoy their money. I brought up the yugioh author earlier, the last arc almost killed him. He finished and has basically become a recluse collecting movies and collectibles. He's mentioned he has had a few new ideas for series over the years, but refuses to go back on that schedule again. The really sad thing is that many of them are basically hermits that have no friends or social contacts anymore.
 
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The members of Skullknight.net asked Miura questions, including in working shedule and he said:

"I start working at 2:00 PM and I finish at 7:00 AM. Of course, the time I spend eating is included. I work 15-16 hours everyday, without holidays."
Stuff like this is one of the reasons why a lot of passionate artists/authors ending up burning up and dying young. Mix of them putting their work above their own wellbeing and companies exploiting that passion to make them meet ungodly deadlines. I remember Bakuman had an entire mini-arc of one of the main characters almost killing himself due to overwork and instead of treating it as a bad thing the authors almost praise that level of dedication (not even touching on how the series also actively praises the uncle for actually dying of overwork in pursuit of his work). There's a real lack of work/life balance in the artist world, not just in Japan.

There's also the whole idea of Tortured artists as something for aspiring artists to look up to or emulate as they are always the ones to receive the most praise from the public because of how much they gave up in pursuit of their passion.
 
Mix of them putting their work above their own wellbeing and companies exploiting that passion to make them meet ungodly deadlines.
Another thing is that Japan has an obsession with effort, pain & suffering. This is not a joke. Yes, of course effort is important but in Japan it's a special kind of horror.

Vacations & wanting to have time for yourself and your family is looked down upon. Working until you reach a breaking point is good. Everything that takes no effort is bad.
 
Doesn't aortic dissection have links to hypertension and stress? I remember reading about it and wondering because it feels like all this overworking that many mangaka and animators suffer through is the reason why many of them are dying much younger than they should be.
Look at this & tell me, the guy ever really lived life peacefully:
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Berserk will never be finished. God damn that hurts to type out.

It's especially painful because the story was entering its final arc and we were finally moving towards the final confrontation with the God Hand.

God damn, it's now one of those unfinished masterpieces.

Edit: It's probably the internet coping, but if reports of his assistants being left a detailed outline of the final arc are true, I am willing to Wheel of Time the final chapters.
Not just Berserk, but his other manga Duranki too. It doesn't even have 10 chapters.
 
Look at this & tell me, the guy ever really lived life peacefully:
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Not just Berserk, but his other manga Duranki too. It doesn't even have 10 chapters.
It's depressing that this is the life some lead (if you can even call it a life) and I don't think it's going to be addressed in a major way anytime soon.
 
It's depressing that this is the life some lead (if you can even call it a life) and I don't think it's going to be addressed in a major way anytime soon.
One thing that might be a good sign is that there seems to be a trend towards shorter manga with a clear end goal that are expected to finish in 5-10 years. Chainsawman’s only 90 chapters, and while the creator was going to start “Part 2” last December, it obviously hasn’t come yet, presumably because he wants to take some well-deserved time off before getting back into the grind. With shorter stories, if you hit it big you can at least live off the sales and take it easy for a while instead of being obligated to keep grinding toward the finish line.
 
I feel a bit ashamed that my only experience with Berserk is the recent CGI mess from a few years back. Everything I've seen and heard both from here and personal friends speaks of the series being absolutely fantastic.

RIP Kentaro Miura, I didn't know your story personally, but you and your work will be missed.
 
That's it, I'm gonna spend my afternoon reading Berserk for the first time. I really should stop being indecisive over series.
 
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