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I‘m reading Komi-san Can’t Communicate, and it’s pretty funny and cute, but every time she does her scared face all I can see is the girls from Edna & Harvey:
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Speakin of which, guess what just got an anime adaptation announced?

Yup. Komi is gonna go mainstream. And yall know exactly what that means when it comes to the calibre of cancer that will latching on to this shit given its subject matter. Normies, wokespeds, emotional cripples, autists, and ofcourse....
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Speakin of which, guess what just got an anime adaptation announced?

Yup. Komi is gonna go mainstream. And yall know exactly what that means when it comes to the calibre of cancer that will latching on to this shit given its subject matter. Normies, wokespeds, emotional cripples, autists, and ofcourse....
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Fuckin’ finally! And the manga seems like it’s wrapping up soon too!

But yes, that other stuff is going to suck.
 
I think I was about partway into the second year of Komi-San. But it’s been a while. I seem to recall how most everyone’s name is basically their trope.

Like, wasn’t the “best friend” character literally called “best friend”?
 
Speakin of which, guess what just got an anime adaptation announced?

Yup. Komi is gonna go mainstream. And yall know exactly what that means when it comes to the calibre of cancer that will latching on to this shit given its subject matter. Normies, wokespeds, emotional cripples, autists, and ofcourse....
That happened as soon as Reddit got a hold of it, the anime is just going to make it worse because Twitter is going to get involved.
 
Speakin of which, guess what just got an anime adaptation announced?

Yup. Komi is gonna go mainstream. And yall know exactly what that means when it comes to the calibre of cancer that will latching on to this shit given its subject matter. Normies, wokespeds, emotional cripples, autists, and ofcourse....
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Makes it even more easier to separate from the loud and quiet Komi fans.
 
Sorry for the late reply.
I don't think there needs to be a massive event for hatred, people can have very random or senseless reasons for it. Lazily written hatred in my mind is using some kind of big event to try and logically explain someone's hatred towards a group, rather than the more realistic highly varied/nuanced reasoning of different people. Even in our technologically advanced world you still have a bunch of retards that run around yelling about how 5g is causing cancer or any other number of stupid ideas about advancing tech, it's not weird that such upset would appear in an even more technologically advanced world as shown in the show. Hatred is often hard to explain as it comes from an irrational place or flawed reasoning that not even the person who has it can logically explain.

Like I can think of numerous reasons right now why people could hate AI around things like their overly logical way of rationalization being at odds with humanities often sentimental view. AI will give priority to what it sees as the "logical decision" based on its programming that might be the exact opposite of the decision a human would make. Just this alone is ripe for creating resentment as was mapped out in the movie I Robot over the main characters strong hatred of all AI based on the overly logical decision of one saving him over a kid. You could also have hatred over the idea of the advancement of AI going to far, as shown in the show with that proposed bill and its backlash, or at them becoming "too human" and the questions that brings up.
A public blowback against AI is logical, but once a person goes full terrorist there needs to be some reason why they would risk their lives, and the theoretical idea that AI would rebel against humanity is too vague and (100 years too early) unlikely to be a good reason. I can get if it's some mob that breaks shit and beats up workers, but fully kitted spec op shit terrorism is ridiculous.
I don't really get your argument here, but maybe that's because I don't see it as lazy coincidence writing because the backstory of the two seems logical enough to me with it being an experiment I could definitely see them doing. I'm also not that upset about them happening to have the exact copy of the captain because I found it an interesting twist and also something the doesn't break my sci-fi bullshit levels since they love doing stuff like that. It doesn't feel like they did it to somehow absolve Androids of anything as it doesn't wipe clean anything that Elizabeth did in her extreme devotion and personally makes more sense to me than if it just went like recorded history. The most I'd say is that the thing with pink head was a little dumb.

Call my standards for storytelling low, but nothing about the story so far deserves the level of scorn. Overall it's been a fairly solid sci-fi which is already putting it a large step above most seasonal anime original.
Is it likely this experiment will be done? Yes. Is it likely one body become a caretaker to an owner of a space station, get promoted to its captain after the original owner dies, while the other is aborted, get adopted by a terrorist group and then discover it can be used to take over the space station? That's kinda ridiculous if you ask me.

I think the show had an interesting point in the "AI will follow their directive to the end", but it doesn't really do anything with it. The AI characters seem to be "too human" to feel like a new alien intelligence driven by a single goal, even the supposedly 80-90 year old androids feel like they are so advanced there is no point in making better AI. Like, the case of the person who married his AI nurse would be more interesting if the AI itself had no real idea of love and simply emulated feelings.
I think this just comes from us having entirely different views on what the focus of the show is. To me it doesn't need to linger on events or really flesh out the side characters because the entire point of the series is seeing how these events or meetings change Vivy by making her think about her own self. What's important about the side cast is what Vivy takes away from her meetings with them as can be seen with her asking them what they believe "putting their heart into something" means to them. Vivy as a show leans into what I'd call thematic storytelling much like something like Doctor Who or Star Trek would where it's using events/characters/sets as vehicles to talk about issues of AI and therefore doesn't spend too much time on making side characters interesting as you put it. To me they serve their purpose fine giving the framing that they are there for the sake of developing Vivy as a character by exposing her to new things.

The show already made clear it was going fast since it's supposed to cover about a hundred years worth of history, if anything it's been going pretty slow given the terrorist dude is still alive and not just a random speck on the long journey.
I don't get the feeling Vivy changes that much. She's becoming more adamant in wanting to protect humanity but it still feels like she's a passive character who just waits for new orders. A good example of a character on a constant quest is Kiritsugu Emiya, since he has a progression of being idealistic and sliding into cynical to the point he is willing to sacrifice the few to save the many (until it breaks him). Maybe the last episode had Vivy also go over the red line of simply waiting to orders and following them unquestionably.
 
I'm still making my way through Strawberry Panic, but jesus some of the side cast make it painful to watch and I really don't care for the side romance that they keep spending time to focus on (Amane and Hikari are just super boring). I really enjoy the main couple stuff and most of the side cast (favorites are the members of the Secret Club), but the two characters that are the closest to series antagonist are just so awful. I hate anytime they show up because they've done a bunch of stuff and seemingly received zero punishment (attempted rape/sexual assault at least twice, kidnapping, almost getting MC seriously injured, intentionally ruining a play, etc.) I guess it means they did a good job making them hateful, but I wish they got some kind of punishment because they just keep doing it.

I'm hoping that it'll start focusing entirely on the main two + Tamao (to show her losing and crying about it) as I get closer to the end. Shizuma is mega based and I can't believe there's anyone that actually wanted Tamao to win over her.
Sorry for the late reply.

A public blowback against AI is logical, but once a person goes full terrorist there needs to be some reason why they would risk their lives, and the theoretical idea that AI would rebel against humanity is too vague and (100 years too early) unlikely to be a good reason. I can get if it's some mob that breaks shit and beats up workers, but fully kitted spec op shit terrorism is ridiculous.

Is it likely this experiment will be done? Yes. Is it likely one body become a caretaker to an owner of a space station, get promoted to its captain after the original owner dies, while the other is aborted, get adopted by a terrorist group and then discover it can be used to take over the space station? That's kinda ridiculous if you ask me.

I think the show had an interesting point in the "AI will follow their directive to the end", but it doesn't really do anything with it. The AI characters seem to be "too human" to feel like a new alien intelligence driven by a single goal, even the supposedly 80-90 year old androids feel like they are so advanced there is no point in making better AI. Like, the case of the person who married his AI nurse would be more interesting if the AI itself had no real idea of love and simply emulated feelings.

I don't get the feeling Vivy changes that much. She's becoming more adamant in wanting to protect humanity but it still feels like she's a passive character who just waits for new orders. A good example of a character on a constant quest is Kiritsugu Emiya, since he has a progression of being idealistic and sliding into cynical to the point he is willing to sacrifice the few to save the many (until it breaks him). Maybe the last episode had Vivy also go over the red line of simply waiting to orders and following them unquestionably.
I'm just going to start this by saying that this'll be my last response because I just think we both have different views on this and I think anymore discussion on the same topic is going to loop because of it. I'll chalk it up to a lot of the sticking points are things that I personally don't need a lot of background reasoning to get behind for me to go "Yeah okay that seems fine." Mainly due to a personal enjoyment for old sci-fi schlock that usually doesn't explain anything (or has very poor logical explanations) so any sci-fi show I'm watching I give a lot more logical leeway. So I don't see a lot of the concerns you have as ruining the show, just feels like standard sci-fi to me.

Like:
Anti AI-Terrorist group without much backstory for existing
Doesn't go above the leeway because it's such a common group to have in Sci-Fi series (really any Anti-Alien/AI/Human/etc.) It being included in this series is perfectly fine, especially given what themes the show wants to explore. I don't need any kind of explanation for them to be there because of the need for the group in the series thematic storytelling.

Even the:
Mass of coincidences that allow a plot point to happen
Is fine because it's also super common in sci-fi series (especially when they're trying to quickly wrap up a movie and need a way to kill this unstoppable monster/alien). I felt that the backstory was interesting enough that I didn't mind it coming up. Same with the terrorists, it was used for the series' thematic storytelling around issues of AI.

I do agree somewhat with the:
AI seem too human
I find it interesting that out of all the AI presented the most inhuman is Matsumoto who is supposed to be the most advanced. Vivy I think is handled pretty well on showing the awkwardness of AI when having the internal clash between their inherit mission and doing her appointed mission, but a lot of the side cast do fall into the pit of being too human. Show writers need to do a better job of showing the audience that a lot of the humanness of the AI is just good programming by showing situations where that "humanness" comes off as wrong. They did a good job of showing it during the peak into the AI uprising, but inside the story itself they haven't given enough to really show the AI evolving. They seem to want to show it with Vivy asking "What does putting your whole heart into something mean?" but I feel they should do more.

As for:
Vivy doesn't feel like she's developing much
I think they've been going really slow with this, but last episode left the writers a very good chance to do a strong development for Vivy after having her seemingly stop functioning over the idea that her song had made someone kill themselves which goes directly against her one mission. I'm really interesting in this weeks episode due to this because I want to see what they'll do with Vivy. I think it'll be one of those things where you have to compare Vivy at the end of the series to her from the start to really see how she's changed.

I hope I answered all your points. I do agree that the show does have some problems, mostly with the characters outside of the main two, but the rest of it is enjoyable enough that I'd put it as serviceable. I just think it's better than your initial assessment that it wasn't worth watching.
 
I'm still making my way through Strawberry Panic, but jesus some of the side cast make it painful to watch and I really don't care for the side romance that they keep spending time to focus on (Amane and Hikari are just super boring). I really enjoy the main couple stuff and most of the side cast (favorites are the members of the Secret Club), but the two characters that are the closest to series antagonist are just so awful. I hate anytime they show up because they've done a bunch of stuff and seemingly received zero punishment (attempted rape/sexual assault at least twice, kidnapping, almost getting MC seriously injured, intentionally ruining a play, etc.) I guess it means they did a good job making them hateful, but I wish they got some kind of punishment because they just keep doing it.

I'm hoping that it'll start focusing entirely on the main two + Tamao (to show her losing and crying about it) as I get closer to the end. Shizuma is mega based and I can't believe there's anyone that actually wanted Tamao to win over her.

I'm just going to start this by saying that this'll be my last response because I just think we both have different views on this and I think anymore discussion on the same topic is going to loop because of it. I'll chalk it up to a lot of the sticking points are things that I personally don't need a lot of background reasoning to get behind for me to go "Yeah okay that seems fine." Mainly due to a personal enjoyment for old sci-fi schlock that usually doesn't explain anything (or has very poor logical explanations) so any sci-fi show I'm watching I give a lot more logical leeway. So I don't see a lot of the concerns you have as ruining the show, just feels like standard sci-fi to me.

Like:

Doesn't go above the leeway because it's such a common group to have in Sci-Fi series (really any Anti-Alien/AI/Human/etc.) It being included in this series is perfectly fine, especially given what themes the show wants to explore. I don't need any kind of explanation for them to be there because of the need for the group in the series thematic storytelling.

Even the:

Is fine because it's also super common in sci-fi series (especially when they're trying to quickly wrap up a movie and need a way to kill this unstoppable monster/alien). I felt that the backstory was interesting enough that I didn't mind it coming up. Same with the terrorists, it was used for the series' thematic storytelling around issues of AI.

I do agree somewhat with the:

I find it interesting that out of all the AI presented the most inhuman is Matsumoto who is supposed to be the most advanced. Vivy I think is handled pretty well on showing the awkwardness of AI when having the internal clash between their inherit mission and doing her appointed mission, but a lot of the side cast do fall into the pit of being too human. Show writers need to do a better job of showing the audience that a lot of the humanness of the AI is just good programming by showing situations where that "humanness" comes off as wrong. They did a good job of showing it during the peak into the AI uprising, but inside the story itself they haven't given enough to really show the AI evolving. They seem to want to show it with Vivy asking "What does putting your whole heart into something mean?" but I feel they should do more.

As for:

I think they've been going really slow with this, but last episode left the writers a very good chance to do a strong development for Vivy after having her seemingly stop functioning over the idea that her song had made someone kill themselves which goes directly against her one mission. I'm really interesting in this weeks episode due to this because I want to see what they'll do with Vivy. I think it'll be one of those things where you have to compare Vivy httgthhth gh the end of the series to her from the start to really see how she's changed.

I hope I answered all your points. I do agree that the show does have some problems, mostly with the characters outside of the main two, but the rest of it is enjoyable enough that I'd put it as serviceable. I just think it's better than your initial assessment that it wasn't worth watching.
I can see your point but the show just doesn't click for me. Anyways I'll keep following it since I already watched half and it is very purdy.
Watching Guriddo Naito ENTER in the new Dynazenon episode was honestly the highlight of my day.
Thanks god for that because the show is fast approaching Darling in the Franxx levels of boredom. The subplots of the individual characters might have worked for anything but a mecha show.
 
Probably about a year out on anime at this point. Any suggestions folk of the farms?
What kind of shows are you into or not into? Can help narrow down suggestions.
Thanks god for that because the show is fast approaching Darling in the Franxx levels of boredom. The subplots of the individual characters might have worked for anything but a mecha show.
I'm actually kind of surprised how boring Dyna has been, questioning if I even want to watch the next episode after the godawful pool one. Cast is a bit better than Gridman, but that's not saying much as I still don't care that much for them. The fights are really dull since it's just the same thing every episode and unlike in other series that do the exact same thing (literally any sentai) it's boring somehow. Also the stupid joke of red head getting hit stopped being funny after the first time yet they keep doing it.

I don't know what I expected since Trigger has been pretty disappointing to me for a bit, but I'm just surprised that even with my lowered expectations I'm still not enjoying it that much. Currently the least favorite among the shows I'm still watching.
 
What kind of shows are you into or not into? Can help narrow down suggestions.
Will generally give most stuff a shot once. Had a nosey at the Way Of The House Husband when it came out but it provided little the manga did not for me.

Seen the recent stuff for Tower of God, Jujutsu Kaisen and God Of High School which were all okay even if the ones for the webtoons lacked a bit from the source.

I don't dislike the slice of life stuff but usually for those I just work through the manga and am happy enough with that.
 
Will generally give most stuff a shot once. Had a nosey at the Way Of The House Husband when it came out but it provided little the manga did not for me.

Seen the recent stuff for Tower of God, Jujutsu Kaisen and God Of High School which were all okay even if the ones for the webtoons lacked a bit from the source.

I don't dislike the slice of life stuff but usually for those I just work through the manga and am happy enough with that.
Sounds like you enjoy more action related shows with nice fights just going by the 3 you listed. Some more recent stuff:
-Tenrou: Sirius the Jaeger (Plot is pretty standard, but I liked it well enough. The fights and animation are probably the best part).
-Houseki no Kuni (Probably the best looking fully cgi show and makes great use of it to animate some truly great fights. Season 2 never).
-Tanya the Evil (Fun fantasy WWI show and Tanya is a really fun MC).
-ID:Invaded (Great mind bending mystery that manages to stick the landing, great main cast).
-Mob Psycho (Bones passion project so it's chalk full of amazing levels of animation and great fights. Mob himself is a 10/10 MC, though Reigen was clearly the favorite at Bones).
-Demon Slayer (Great action/animation and the main cast is pretty good).
-Drifters (The opening should be enough to win anybody over, same guy that did Hellsing so you'll like this if you liked that).
-Hellsing Ultimate (If you haven't seen Hellsing then watch this version as it's the full adaption, though I'd also recommend the manga just for the fact that the author's mini comics are really funny to read).

Bonus (Not new stuf):
-Garden of Sinners Movie series (some really slick fights though each film can vary widely in quality when it comes to story. Last film is my personal favorite).
-Sword of the Stranger movie (probably some of the best sword fights put to animation and has an amazing ost to go with it. Don't read the comments on the linked ost just in case).
-Birdy the Mighty Decode (Really slick fights and a fun sci-fi series).
-Jormungand (Fun gunfights, if you like this you'll like Black Lagoon and vice versa).
 
Can definitely second Tanya, Mob Psycho, and Garden of Sinners (I'd recommend watching it in chronological order; unless you plan to watch it multiple times I can't see a reason to watch it any other order) -- all three are some of my favorites.
 
Jesus christ, Crunchyroll is being absolute retards with Tokyo Revengers. They're censoring out the 'Majin' with streams of light, because they're afraid their audience of normies is too retarded to know what a manjin is. I mean, they're probably right.
 
Jesus christ, Crunchyroll is being absolute retards with Tokyo Revengers. They're censoring out the 'Majin' with streams of light, because they're afraid their audience of normies is too retarded to know what a manjin is. I mean, they're probably right.
Bars of lights alone would have been bad enough, the fact that they're zooming in to keep the symbol out of frame and completely ripping out certain shots is abhorrent and makes the anime look cheap af.
 
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