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though holy shit the heroine killed people pretty mercilessly
Are you talking about the old mage and the soldiers? If so, I think they kinda botched adapting that story. In the manga it was one of my favorites, it's told from her perspective like usual. After they accidentally burned her home she tried communicating with them and disabling some of the soldiers... but underestimated her own strength and killed them, leading to the attack. Afterwards she also starts to wonder if she's become that cold blooded and further begins to ponder if the taboo / heretic skills have started affecting her and/or if her connection to the giant mother spider is also affecting her (which ends up being important for later).

it also seems to be implied that there are 4 versions of the heroine on the human side, one for every mind - two spiders, of which one that is dead, one white haired and the demon lord. Wonder how it will be explained eventually.
But it seems like the teleporting dude that met Kumoko was the future version of the insane prince and "D" was implied to be the demon lord. Not to mention the hero looked like the future version of his little brother. It's like there's some weird time loop going on.
If you're curious, from what I've read of the LN spoilers (general, not really specific or detailed stuff): Only the all-white female demon lord is Kumoko. The rest are their own characters. Although as far as 'splitting' goes, there's a spin-off comedy manga where that happens. Haven't read it yet, though I think it is it's own separate thing The teleporting guy and D are administrators, separate from the demon lords. Whereas the demon lords are 'godlike' the admins are more like literal gods. Also, some of the stuff revealed about D and Kumoko seems a bit dumb.
 
I'm 30 minutes into Masaaki Yuasa's Mind Game and all I can see is pretentiousness, something that you typically see in a graduating art student's thesis film. Like whoopdee-fucking-doo, you can use any method of animation known (in 2004) and can pull off all sorts of crazy perspectives, but it's not appealing to look at. It's obnoxious and ugly. The narrative isn't ugly (I guess, I'm just desensitized to it), but the art direction is, and it's very distracting even by design.

Stop it. Stop pretending you can be Oyasumi Punpun (and Crayon Shin-chan). You'll never be Oyasumi Punpun. I even feel like I can see a bit of Satoshi Kon inspiration in it. You'll never be Satoshi Kon, Yuasa. Look, I like Tatami Galaxy and Ping Pong, but people suck Yuasa's dick way too much. Dude's just not afraid to make his work not look like typical anime and that's fine, but he's not the second coming of Christ ffs.

Just am not a fan of the smugness emanating from my computer screen, is all.
 
Back Arrow is fun if not also incredibly dumb mecha schlock nobody is really talking about this season.
I love it tbh. Tho I would say, I like Shu more than Arrow.
Holy shit Cells At Work Code Black has one of the shittiest endings I've ever seen to an anime. Not only feeling arbitrary to raise the stakes again but also outright end the series on an implied shitty moral of if you are healthy don't donate blood since it will likely be given to unhealthy people.

Spider Isekai is weird in the timeline. It seems to be final that the series is taking 15 years before the events of the human side (due to the flashback, though holy shit the heroine killed people pretty mercilessly), though it doesn't make sense how the demon faction made contract with the heroine despite only forming recently in the human world... it also seems to be implied that there are 4 versions of the heroine on the human side, one for every mind - two spiders, of which one that is dead, one white haired and the demon lord. Wonder how it will be explained eventually.

I'll seperate the problem of western comics into three parts:
1. Unoriginality - It is mainly capeshit and even then it's always established characters or some alternative versions of them. And with those characters there is no real interesting thing besides the occasional high concept villain since they are always flying bricks. Compare and contrast Jojo that has more outlandish shit in every chapter than comics have in their entire run. This in turn makes the events in the comics just boring, I've seen more interesting and fun fight scenes in Chainsaw Man than every action scene I've read over dozens of comics (despite being in black and white and jumping around).
2. Creator worship - While it sucks that some manga will never end since the creators will play Idol simulator all day, it sure beats the current status quo in western comics where the same few people constantly write the same comics in the same styles and will destroy the career of promising new competitors if they don't suck the cock.
3. Lack of nepotism - Writing manga is brutal and series that don't stick gets outed pretty quickly, but it at least gives talented people the chance to reach to the top through their abilities (yeah plenty will get to the top by jumping on trends but still). In western comics? You need to be a part of a social clique to get your leg through the door and that creates the situation that the few comics that aren't capeshit are featuring "Scifi black latinx lesbians fighting white supermacy". Rather than interesting ideas like a city surrounded by hordes of naked giant cannibals.

tl;dr Western comics are the definition of stagnation and lack of meritocracy.
Just an FYI from the guy who read the CaW Black manga till it's end, there's gonna be a 2nd season considering the true suffering of the story hasn't even been done yet.
 
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is gundam worth getting into? Call me autistic but after watching Rerez do a video about a gundam game, that Char guy is pretty cute from the anime. However gundam is fucking large and I'm intimidated where would a newbie start???
I want to get into Gundam at some point, but I want to dedicate an entire year to the franchise and haven't felt the need to just yet. But everyone appears to agree you start with the original 1979 show first and work your way from there. Personally, I was going to go with broadcast order whenever I start it.
 
I thought the Promised Neverland couldn't get any stupider. I was wrong.

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The entire human eating demon population population spontaneously decides to go vegan, gets the military on their side, and a bunch of children in the woods manage to create a FLEET of hot air balloons and defeat demons twice the size and five times as strong as an adult human by hitting them in the head with pipes. These are 8-13 year olds. Oh and their response to the guy in charge of feeding them and all their ancestors to demons, and maintaining the system that requires said demons to eat humans?

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Somehow even dumber than the source material version. And of course the whole thing was animated as a slideshow. I burst out laughing when Sonju kicked a door in with a single frame. Apparently they did this so they could focus on their anime original series about genderfluid teenagers or some shit, but that flopped anyways. Oh and you know how the original writer "oversaw" season 2's production? Turns out the writer was only invited on after the script was already completely finished.

There's only one more episode. I can't wait to see how they fuck this series next. It's so much fun for all the wrong reasons.
Honestly at this point, why even bother with a second season at all? It would be one thing if they made a legitimate attempt to “fix” it, but if you’re just going to rush the ending for the sake of saying it’s “complete”, you’re better off just leaving it unfinished. Not like it would be the first anime to never get a second season.
 
@Tor Lugosi I'm just enjoying floating theories around, one of the pluses of watching a serialised series rather than binging it.

It does bring to mind the big problem of stats in non-game media - it breaks a lot of real world logic. You can't slit the throat of the hero in his sleep because your dinky knife does 10 damage and he has 10000 hit points. Shit like that. Skills are intrusive and arbitrary as hell, but they don't break the world as stats do.
 
tbh
is gundam worth getting into? Call me autistic but after watching Rerez do a video about a gundam game, that Char guy is pretty cute from the anime. However gundam is fucking large and I'm intimidated where would a newbie start???
For AU series I started with 00 Gundam. It has a great set up for beginners and some of the best animation out of all of them.

As for the UC century itself, The original 0079 trilogy with subs is probably the best way to get into it. Followed by Stardust Memory, Zeta, CCA then Unicorn. Char's in all of em except Stardust. The dubs are pretty good for most of the rest,if you prefer that.

You can skip out on most of Double Zeta aside from watching the final fights. I dont particularly like how they tried to make the first half comedy and second half war drama. It did the first part well enough, but It just couldn't stick the landing. Also Char isn't in it.



Victory Gundam is a HUGE favorite of mine. It follows char's grandkid as he fights quite possibility the most brutal war of the franchise. It also has the most batshit insane moments in gundam too.



Very underrated show. For all the insanity that happens in it, It legitimately feels like the most realistic one terms of showing the sheer cost of fighting a war.
 
Honestly at this point, why even bother with a second season at all? It would be one thing if they made a legitimate attempt to “fix” it, but if you’re just going to rush the ending for the sake of saying it’s “complete”, you’re better off just leaving it unfinished. Not like it would be the first anime to never get a second season.
I think anime production was decided before the manga started falling off (or rather, while there was still hope that they could turm it around) and turning to shit right after the success that was s1, so their hand was a bit forced on the matter. Can't say why they didn't at least try however.
 
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is gundam worth getting into? Call me autistic but after watching Rerez do a video about a gundam game, that Char guy is pretty cute from the anime. However gundam is fucking large and I'm intimidated where would a newbie start???
I'd say it is! I recently started the 1979 anime and I'm going from there. Before I'd only seen G Gundam and some of Gundam Wing, and those are a lot different so far.
If you're going to, starting with the first one seems like a must but I'm not sure if you need to see it if you're just going to watch the au series.
 

Anzai voiced Ryuunosuke’s dad in Urusei Yatsura, where he also worked briefly as an episode director. He also played Rhett Butler/Bakene inSailor Moon, Majaho in Royal Space Force – The Wings of Honnêamise, and Philionel El Di Saillune in The Slayers. He had roles in Astro Boy, Black Jack: The Movie, Dragon Ball Z: Fusion Reborn, Fist of the North Star, Maison Ikkoku, and Ranma ½, among others.


Wish I had more to say, but thank this man’s voice acting for making anime from the 80’s so memorable to witness.
 
tbh
is gundam worth getting into? Call me autistic but after watching Rerez do a video about a gundam game, that Char guy is pretty cute from the anime. However gundam is fucking large and I'm intimidated where would a newbie start???
It is. Watch the 0079 Trilogy movies first since it's the best possible introduction although if you have time than watching the original TV version is just as good. Then watch Zeta Gundam (ZZ Gundam is good but skippable, do not watch the Zeta Gundam movies) and the Char's Counterattack movie because that's pretty much the core of the franchise. After that just watch whatever you find interesting although production order is always good.
Victory Gundam is a HUGE favorite of mine. It follows char's grandkid as he fights quite possibility the most brutal war of the franchise. It also has the most batshit insane moments in gundam too.
It really disappointed me when I rewatched it a while back and I liked it a lot on my first watch. The Late UC era is cool, but you barely see it in Victory, the show is mostly the heroes reacting to one atrocity after another. It feels like we're missing a lot of context that all the other Tomino Gundam shows give you as to why the villains are doing what they're doing, shit which would make the enemy side actually interesting instead of "holy shit these people are crazy".

Despite all of that, I still think the ending rules though and episode 50/51 is among the franchise's finest moments.
 
Well the first season of Yashahime ended which had a really good 24th episode. Then at the very end a second season was confirmed to be in production. As a fan of Inuyasha and Yashahime I'm really excited that we're getting more of it.
 
Well the first season of Yashahime ended which had a really good 24th episode. Then at the very end a second season was confirmed to be in production. As a fan of Inuyasha and Yashahime I'm really excited that we're getting more of it.
Is the series worth a watch without going back to rewatch inuyasha?
 
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is gundam worth getting into? Call me autistic but after watching Rerez do a video about a gundam game, that Char guy is pretty cute from the anime. However gundam is fucking large and I'm intimidated where would a newbie start???
It really all depends on what you want to get into. If your plan is to watch the whole series, and want to get in Universal Century Gundam, feel free to start with the Original Mobile Suit Gundam/0079. As others said, the movies are good, but, if you have the time, watch the TV series, just remember that its quite old. After that its a matter of if you go production or chronological order. Chronological order will help you understand the story as it goes, so you know who and what everything is and how things link together. Going by Chronological order, 0080: War in a Pocket and 08th MS Team would be the next ones. Both are highly recommended. 0083: Stardust Memory is not as highly recommended, but it will prepare you for Zeta Gundam. Zeta Gundam is the pinnacle of the series for many fans, for good reason, but, I will echo the earlier sentiment that this time you avoid the Zeta movie as it changes the ending to a non-canon one. After that ZZ Gundam would come next; its a polarizing due to the beginning trying to tone down the darkness the series was known for, only to ramp it back up in the latter half. Its somewhat skippable, but it does explain what happened to one of the main factions after Zeta, so it should be watched at least once. Char's Counterattack is next, and, of course, is a great film and a cornerstone of the franchise. After that would be Mobile Suit Gundam: Hathaway's Flash, but its been delayed, thus you would follow with Gundam Unicorn, which is alright. After that would be Gundam F91, which is considered one of the lesser Gundam works due to being a movie that was originally supposed to be a full series and it shows. Skippable. After that is the great Victory Gundam which everyone should watch just once. Avoid G-Savior like a plague.

As for the AU Gundam series, well, it really doesn't matter which one you start with, but here's some watch advice:

G Gundam is nothing like any other Gundam show, but its damn amazing and you should watch it.

Turn A Gundam is highly regarded and is the one AU that Gundam creator Tomino himself did, well after he finally won his years long battle with depression. Well worth a watch, if only for the shear fact that its meant to be a distant finale to the ENTIRE Gundam franchise. It also finally got an English sub-release in 2015.

After War Gundam X is a series that is also very good and well worth a watch, despite the fact that some Gundam fans dump on the series for being the only AU series to get cancelled for things completely outside its control.

Gundam Wing is the one that made Gundam famous in the west but is not nearly as good as people remember it being. Still worth watching at some point.

Gundam Seed is a conundrum. The first series is good, great even. Gundam Seed Destiny is straight trash though and should be avoided like the plague. The series has technically never been finished due to the main writer, the showrunner's wife, getting sick and later freaking DYING, which means that the series will probably never be finished.

00 Gundam starts strong in the first season, goes completely off the rails in the second when Magic Pixie Dust literally starts solving everything.

Iron Blooded Orphans is probably the darkest AU, and the first season is damn good. Haven't seen the second so I can't really comment on it, but I want to see it. Also, the first ending theme is dope.
 
I'm 30 minutes into Masaaki Yuasa's Mind Game and all I can see is pretentiousness, something that you typically see in a graduating art student's thesis film. Like whoopdee-fucking-doo, you can use any method of animation known (in 2004) and can pull off all sorts of crazy perspectives, but it's not appealing to look at. It's obnoxious and ugly. The narrative isn't ugly (I guess, I'm just desensitized to it), but the art direction is, and it's very distracting even by design.

Stop it. Stop pretending you can be Oyasumi Punpun (and Crayon Shin-chan). You'll never be Oyasumi Punpun. I even feel like I can see a bit of Satoshi Kon inspiration in it. You'll never be Satoshi Kon, Yuasa. Look, I like Tatami Galaxy and Ping Pong, but people suck Yuasa's dick way too much. Dude's just not afraid to make his work not look like typical anime and that's fine, but he's not the second coming of Christ ffs.

Just am not a fan of the smugness emanating from my computer screen, is all.
are you into bill plympton? its the japaneae version of liking bill plympton, its indie art.
 
are you into bill plympton? its the japaneae version of liking bill plympton, its indie art.
I might've seen his work around without knowing it since I didn't memorize his name, but I've seen "Your Face" before, which is a perfect example of how to take animation to its fullest potential and beyond, and it's beautifully done despite taking your eyes on an acid trip. Mind Game still made me think of a pretentious art student who had managed to procure a team and big budget to make whatever shit came out of their head they thought was artistic in modern day.

I fully encourage indie art, but modern indie art is fugly and obnoxious as sin, and Mind Game embodies that in a feature-length film. It didn't push animation to its limits or did anything creative or mind-blowing, it was just color vomit and "Whoo-hoo wacky quirky foreshortening and transitioning!"
 
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