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Hasn't it always been that way, though? The Japanese don't really need the Chinese where anime is concerned.
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Hasn't it always been that way, though? The Japanese don't really need the Chinese where anime is concerned.
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Collaborations/out-sourcing might drop, but that's the best I can think of.
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Doesn't Japan mostly outsource their stuff to South Korea, though? I can't think of any Japan-China collaborations recently either.
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Last I can think of was To Be Hero from a few years ago. It got a sequel, but I don't know if that was still a collab or not.
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There's a few Chinese studios out there that outsource for Japan, actually. One of them, Phoenix Animation, is a partner with Japanese studio Akatsuki even.
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Hiro is frequently extremely hyperbolic. Anime is very much still for the Japanese. Tencent, last year, acquired an anime streaming platform. I don't know, typically you need some anime to stream on a platform.
It also probably has very little to do with anime and getting a foothold in the console market:
Also Tencent has basically invested in everything from Tim Hortons to Epic Games, so drawing meaning from one acquisition, which they do all the time, is a stretch. The companies have previously worked together so its not a shock:
So as usual, its just more hysterics. Do I dislike the bugmen investing in everything? Yes. Is this a sign Anime is going to come under CCP rule and Japan will be helpless or the start of a Chinese incursion into anime? No.
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Something fun to look at, an animated OP sequence, and EP sequence, worked on by a single person over the course of eight years, and meant to look like a "phantom anime" from the late 80s that's since been lost. The "series'" title is Kodai-sen Kara/Ancient Battle Shell Genocider, and it's been made to look like it's a VHS recording that has suffered some degradation over the years.
The creator, Hosokawa, also produced another OP/ED for a non-existent series about a decade ago, Tokusou Shirei/Special Equipment Command Legios,
Plus, the creator shareed a clean version of the Genocider OP:
The creator, Hosokawa, also produced another OP/ED for a non-existent series about a decade ago, Tokusou Shirei/Special Equipment Command Legios,
Plus, the creator shareed a clean version of the Genocider OP:
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The art style gives me an intense 07th Expansion feeling.
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Some of those feel like clear stretches and also somewhat on which series they mean. They have Casshern and Gatchaman mentioned but are they meaning the original series or the general shared plot elements between all the series using its name? Also, bizarre choice of Getter Robo Go rather than the much more well known Getter Robo Armageddon or hell, even Shin Getter Robo. It also feels weird to see stuff like SAO and .hack on that list, I can kind of get where they're coming from since they both have "trapped in a virtual world" (at least with .hack sign which is the only thing I've seen for the .hack series) but I feel they don't count as cyberpunk. To me, cyberpunk series have this very specific feel to them and neither show really gave that, similar to my feelings on Zegapain.
Speaking of Zegapain, while I love to see it get some attention, it being included on the list at all ruins a pretty big twist in the series. It is supposed to be this big reveal that the world had been destroyed which had forced humans to digitize themselves onto servers slowly being wiped out by the enemy and that each server could only hold so much data so the server would go to a previous save state after a year. Everyone besides the pilots wouldn't be aware of this going on (meaning the pilots were gradually isolated from any friends and knew that any dreams or promises for the future weren't happening) or that they couldn't leave the city. The issue of humans now being made of data adds the problem that the pilots are literally risking their own self and memories as taking damage can slowly corrupt their own data. Until the big reveal all the viewer is given is little hints that something is wrong, but otherwise it's just like any other mecha show where humans have to fight back an alien invader.
Not going to give him clicks, but there has been an increasing interest in the Chinese anime market especially when it comes to streaming. There's being a real growth in the streaming market for anime in China and I've heard it is quite profitable for Japanese companies. The western streaming market is also growing but I doubt at the same rate as the Chinese market. Due to that there might be an increase in Japanese studios putting out more works that can make it passed the Chinese censors for that cash flow.
Another interest situation that has been developing, China has also been putting more effort into their own original anime with Donghua, I don't know if it'll reach the same level as the Japanese anime market but it's something that the Japanese companies are surely aware of. Stuff like The King's Avatar has gotten multiple seasons + ova which have shown an increasing level of high quality animation and the story isn't half bad. That isn't even touching on the very popular works by mxtx, stuff like Mo Dao Zu Shi, that have started getting Donghua adaptions that actually have effort put into them to look decent and have a large fanbase outside of China. The industry for animation is steadily growing in China and while, at this point it's no where near the level of quality seen in Japan, it could grow big enough to start causing issues in Japan.
Biggest problem with Donghua breaking into more mainstream appeal, in my opinion from watching some, is how fucking awful Chinese sounds on my ears compared to Japanese. Not helped by the voice actors sound like they aren't use to voice acting.
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The only thing that possibly gives it away with Kodai-sen Kara is that the colours are a bit too bright. Eight years though, that's some serious passion.
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I did like the addition of the clock and the news caption on the top during the opening, that was pretty spot-on to some TV recordings I've seen over the years.
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George Akiyama, whose real name is Yūji Akiyama, was a renowned and controversial manga author who made his debut in 1966 with the Gaikotsu-kun (Skeleton-kun) manga. Publisher Shogakukan announced the sad news this weekend that Akiyama passed away on May 12 at the age of 77.
Akiyama—an author with many works known for pushing boundaries—launched his Haguregumo manga in the pages of Big Comic Original in 1973 and brought it to a close in 2017. Other notable works of many include Asura—which inspired an anime in 2012—as well as Sutegataki Hitobito, Koiko no Mainichi, and Gyara, the latter of which is currently being remade by mangaka Katsumi Kobayashi.
Akiyama’s relatives held a private funeral after his passing.
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I wonder if having a general Youtube thread would work well because there are a lot of cases of specific Youtubers who aren't lolcows (at least as long as you don't dive into their social media) but have notable videos but not to the extent of deserving their own thread. Anyways I want to bring attention into the latest Super Eyepatch Wolf video about a horro manga:
I haven't read the manga but the video itself is very bad. It tries to use a very soft voice to get your empathy going but it's just obnoxious and over-used to the point of self parody. The argument about having an evil parent (specifically a mother) being very rare in horror is plainly incorrect and the argument that there is no horror in western comics is also wrong (it's just a niche). The video tries to pass the idea that the manga is scary by having images with scare chords and it just feels forced, I guess the guy shown the video to some people and they didn't feel fear from it, so he added scary noises to drive the idea that the faces are scary.
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I think Super Eyepatch Wolf is like a year or two too late to talk about that manga, and he might've just been parroting the reviews for it that say it's a rather tense psychological manga (it's not mentioned to even be a horror manga), but YouTube's still a good way to bring attention to things to attract an audience to something you feel needs more love, and manga's (shockingly? Surprisingly?) not as widely read by Westerners. So there's no qualms here about him talking about it, I dunno if I would've ever come across it on my own and been interested in reading it, but getting a glimpse into it has made me go "Yeah, I'll make a mental note to read it one day." Though what it was that sold me was actually the art before he even started talking about the work itself, which is possible he was exaggerating in places.
His volume level was rather quiet, whether intentional or he wasn't aware of his mic quality being off for that recording. He might've also recorded at a late hour, nothing was mentioned that I can tell. But yeah, it got me tilting my head for him to mention that horror series having an antagonistic parent is "rare" when even non-horror series have evil parents. Hell, he showed a clip of "Mommie Dearest", one of the most famous examples in cinematic (and Hollywood) history, and it's not horror at all. Is it taboo to talk about evil mothers in fiction? *looks as far back as Greek mythology* Uhhhhhh I don't know about that, chief.
His volume level was rather quiet, whether intentional or he wasn't aware of his mic quality being off for that recording. He might've also recorded at a late hour, nothing was mentioned that I can tell. But yeah, it got me tilting my head for him to mention that horror series having an antagonistic parent is "rare" when even non-horror series have evil parents. Hell, he showed a clip of "Mommie Dearest", one of the most famous examples in cinematic (and Hollywood) history, and it's not horror at all. Is it taboo to talk about evil mothers in fiction? *looks as far back as Greek mythology* Uhhhhhh I don't know about that, chief.
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Yeah, I agree. I never paid any attention to his Jojo or Hunter x hunter vids cause it's all over the place anyway, but with this video he informed me of something I never heard of before that sounded interesting.
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In order for something to have mainstream appeal, it needs to be cheap and easy to consoom. In Japan it is - you can get cheap magazines with a ton of new manga everywhere catering to every taste. In the US, not so much. Physical copies are rare, expensive, and never up to date for existing series (and good luck finding anything NOT mainstream); while digital copies are absolute cancer to read on your phone or laptop and can really only be comfortably read on a tablet. Not to mention, for a lot of niche manga scanlations are the only way of reading them, and normies aren’t going to go out of their way to hunt down scanlations on the Internet.
Basically, manga’s not as popular in the West because it’s simply just not accessible.
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ID: invaded did not disappoint. I kind of want more but I'm not sure if it needs more, kinda like psycho pass.
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Finished watching lain, wasn't sure what was happening a lot of the time plotwise but it was still good, different to the the usual things I'd watch. Ahead of its time and still stands up with even though its 20+ years old now.
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Super Eyepatch Wolf really has gone downhill lately with this along with his Jojo Part 5 video being absolutely bad.
Doesn’t help he uses a very pretentious voice to make it seem more important or deep and the worst part is that he is aware of this but doesn’t bother to sound less pretentious.
Doesn’t help he uses a very pretentious voice to make it seem more important or deep and the worst part is that he is aware of this but doesn’t bother to sound less pretentious.
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The pretentious voice is in fucking overdrive in the latest video. Also I remember the Jojo 5 video being extremely bad, it was very much the "muh themes" shtick MauLer makes a living out of pointing out. I think he tried to argue that there is a theme of personal connections in Jojo 5 but that theme:
1. Doesn't attribute to anything.
2. Doesn't make sense considering the villain was shown to have incredibly loyal people to him.