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A side note, I don't really get the 'love' for light novels. I keep trying to read them and its just painful. Its like someone took a book and then eviscerated it. I know that's how they're able to be churned out so fast, but I'd rather read a manga at that rate. Maybe its just the language barrier, I don't know. Its like a novel is a steak and a light novel is a hotdog, I see all these missing pieces and it just fills me with sadness. Also there's this feeling my writing will pick up terrible fucking habits if I read LNs too much, so I basically just don't anymore.

CheezzyMach said:
My only concern about the Funi thing is if they start a jihad on fanservice in anime.

Which is ironic since that was how Funi buttered it's bread in the late 2000/early 2010s.
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There already is a Jihad on fanservice, its called the 'Blu Ray DVD'. Those rays of light really grind my gears. That's why I subscribe to HDIVE. Uncensored all the way.

ZMOT said:
another, so pandering to that crowd would make even less sense.
otoh there's the creator angle, a lot of anime are based on manga/novels, which means there has to be certain level of local popularity for the material itself, and I can't really see japan mangling some creators work just to please twittertards on the us westcoast.
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That's another thing to think of, creative control between anime-manga-LNs are a lot tighter than usual. Sometimes to the detriment of the anime itself.

Dom Cruise said:
Manga makes more money? Is that why there's so many animes out there that never adapted the complete stories of the manga?

That's one of the few things I don't like about anime is that the endings almost always leave you high and dry, usually because they ran out of manga to adapt but even when it's not based on a manga more often than not endings are left open rather than anything conclusive.

What really sucks is when the original manga is not even translated or scanlated, such is the case with Manyuu Hikenchou that I watched last year, I loved it but the story just stops with absolutely nothing resolved and nobody has bothered to translate the entirety of the original manga (which I'm honestly a bit surprised by)

It's definitely a bittersweet experience to finish an anime oftentimes, I wish anime makers were more willing to have actual endings instead of "here's hoping this is a smash hit and we can make more" endings.
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That's the way its always been with anime. You kind of have to rely on the source material doing well in order to get sequels, which is why so much anime is left with cliffhangers or just unfinished seasons. That's another problem with anime. Even if something is HUGELY popular, if the manga doesn't have enough material to adapt, well, you're fucking shit out of luck and you've got to wait a couple of years for it to get there. Which is why its hard for me to see normies accepting it.

For example, ID: Invaded is extremely rare among anime, as its a completely original story, revolves around no manga and is anime only. Which is why it wrapped up so beautifully.

Anime is basically a hobby of disappointment. Either you go in knowing your 12 cour series is going to end like shit or never get continued or you're going to have to wait 40 years for a sequel. Which I think is a problem you have to solve if you ever want to make it mainstream. Its even worse because as you say, sometimes the manga isn't even translated. But again, you go in knowing this isn't really for Westerners.

Though its fucking worse when the anime gets AHEAD of the manga. Since there's a lack of experience dealing with this, the anime tends to end up worse. See Akame ga Kill! which the Anime fucking butchers the manga the anime literally has no idea where to go or what to do, so basically its solution is to kill the entire cast, when in the manga is the opposite. I still get PTSD when I see Akame ga Kill everywhere because it ends just so bad compared to the manga. Which I am going to have to read again. Even after all this time Akame ga Kill still pisses me off.
 
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So is anyone else in the thread reading record of ragnarok? its gotten to the point where I'm tapping my vein for it every month. Its a tournament of Humanity's greatest chad's vs the gods. Its got great action and good art.
 
Secret Asshole said:
A side note, I don't really get the 'love' for light novels. I keep trying to read them and its just painful. Its like someone took a book and then eviscerated it. I know that's how they're able to be churned out so fast, but I'd rather read a manga at that rate. Maybe its just the language barrier, I don't know. Its like a novel is a steak and a light novel is a hotdog, I see all these missing pieces and it just fills me with sadness. Also there's this feeling my writing will pick up terrible fucking habits if I read LNs too much, so I basically just don't anymore.



There already is a Jihad on fanservice, its called the 'Blu Ray DVD'. Those rays of light really grind my gears. That's why I subscribe to HDIVE. Uncensored all the way.



That's another thing to think of, creative control between anime-manga-LNs are a lot tighter than usual. Sometimes to the detriment of the anime itself.



That's the way its always been with anime. You kind of have to rely on the source material doing well in order to get sequels, which is why so much anime is left with cliffhangers or just unfinished seasons. That's another problem with anime. Even if something is HUGELY popular, if the manga doesn't have enough material to adapt, well, you're fucking shit out of luck and you've got to wait a couple of years for it to get there. Which is why its hard for me to see normies accepting it.

For example, ID: Invaded is extremely rare among anime, as its a completely original story, revolves around no manga and is anime only. Which is why it wrapped up so beautifully.

Anime is basically a hobby of disappointment. Either you go in knowing your 12 cour series is going to end like shit or never get continued or you're going to have to wait 40 years for a sequel. Which I think is a problem you have to solve if you ever want to make it mainstream. Its even worse because as you say, sometimes the manga isn't even translated. But again, you go in knowing this isn't really for Westerners.

Though its fucking worse when the anime gets AHEAD of the manga. Since there's a lack of experience dealing with this, the anime tends to end up worse. See Akame ga Kill! which the Anime fucking butchers the manga the anime literally has no idea where to go or what to do, so basically its solution is to kill the entire cast, when in the manga is the opposite. I still get PTSD when I see Akame ga Kill everywhere because it ends just so bad compared to the manga. Which I am going to have to read again. Even after all this time Akame ga Kill still pisses me off.
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Light novels also have a similar problem to American comics about 90% of it is Isekai trash. But reading them is a guilty pleasure of mine especially now that the US' on lockdown thanks to the Kung Flu.

I thought Blu Rays were generally the uncensored version of the tv broadcast to get weebs/otaku to shell out for those boxsets.

Yeah I still remember the disappointment I got from Claymore's ending back in the day. Although my personal pet peeve is when the manga's finished but the anime either ends anyway* Bleach * or changes the ending for no reason * Death Note's ending still pisses me off. *
I wanted to see that rat bastard Light suffer damnit!
 
Secret Asshole said:
Though its fucking worse when the anime gets AHEAD of the manga. Since there's a lack of experience dealing with this, the anime tends to end up worse. See Akame ga Kill! which the Anime fucking butchers the manga the anime literally has no idea where to go or what to do, so basically its solution is to kill the entire cast, when in the manga is the opposite. I still get PTSD when I see Akame ga Kill everywhere because it ends just so bad compared to the manga. Which I am going to have to read again. Even after all this time Akame ga Kill still pisses me off.
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yeah it's a damn shame. I have to admit though, I like the way esdeath went out in the anime. tatsumi's death was boring but her grabbing his corpse and freezing them both was so esdeath.. btw did you ever read the sequel series? it's a lot of fun. I wasn't sure on the new artist at first, but they've grown on me

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I was expecting it to just be more akame ga kill, and in a sense it is (I mean, akame is here after all), but I like what it does different. the technology is more limited in this continent and they have less weapons with abilities so they have to rely more on normal military tactics. if someone actually does have something like a teigu it's the enemy. the general feel is different too, it's hard to describe. the whole japanese military recruits by the seaside thing feels different from night raid sneaking around their more western setting. though now that the war has gotten more serious it's definitely feeling more like akame ga kill. especially with the enemy nation's ace team coming into play. they're like the jaegers with all the camaraderie and loyalty to their nation, but without any morals whatsoever. they're not even sadists like wild hunt, they just dont give a fuck.
 
Trashfire Garbagefuck said:
yeah it's a damn shame. I have to admit though, I like the way esdeath went out in the anime. tatsumi's death was boring but her grabbing his corpse and freezing them both was so esdeath.. btw did you ever read the sequel series? it's a lot of fun. I wasn't sure on the new artist at first, but they've grown on me

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I was expecting it to just be more akame ga kill, and in a sense it is (I mean, akame is here after all), but I like what it does different. the technology is more limited in this continent and they have less weapons with abilities so they have to rely more on normal military tactics. if someone actually does have something like a teigu it's the enemy. the general feel is different too, it's hard to describe. the whole japanese military recruits by the seaside thing feels different from night raid sneaking around their more western setting. though now that the war has gotten more serious it's definitely feeling more like akame ga kill. especially with the enemy nation's ace team coming into play. they're like the jaegers with all the camaraderie and loyalty to their nation, but without any morals whatsoever. they're not even sadists like wild hunt, they just dont give a fuck.
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I really did like the way she did that to show that she was truly in love with him. To be honest, the way the anime deals with the cast dying is that they basically all just die of exhaustion. It was so fucking terrible. The Prime Minister's death was SO MUCH more fucking metal in the manga and probably the best comeuppance for a cruel villain. I've read both the prequel ('Akame ga ZERO') as well as a bit of the sequel. Its really interesting and I'm glad to see it still going. I need to catch up to it.

Though I do remember a lot of people disliking Tatsumi fell for Mine instead of Akame or anyone else. Though I thought that was fine.
 
You want pain? Try to find an anime that adapts a visual novel perfectly or make it better. Because they're typically dating sims that're rarely connected as one continuity, every time the protagonist interacts with a girl (even best girl) in the show, it sometimes feels awkward because they have to artificially stitch the routes together to make it flow seamlessly, but it rarely is seamless. My favorite anime, CLANNAD, still suffers from this if you're not paying attention, but After Story actually expanded on, even approved the Yukine Miyazawa route to the point I prefer how it came out in the anime compared to how rushed and weak it turned out in the visual novel. When it enters the true route, it's so smooth, and they actually cut out or fix some really uncomfortable stuff from the original visual novel that would've emotionally destroyed the anime. For instance, Sanae in the anime is carefully and gently asking Tomoya to talk to Nagisa about if abortion may need to be considered because of how frail she is. In the visual novel, she's being uncomfortably OoC by being extremely pushy about Tomoya needing to pressure Nagisa to abort their child without considering her daughter's feelings. Kyoto Animation for the most part I think was the best choice in adapting Key works, although Toei's AIR movie is better than the TV series.

I haven't played the other Key visual novels, but watching their non-KyoAni anime adaptations left me frustrated because I feel like I'm missing out on something, or that it's skipping around and I don't know why. People love the Little Busters! visual novel, some the anime as well, but I found the anime to be tedious and don't get why it's such a beloved title. Only thing I took away from it was "Song for Friends" which I don't remember playing in the anime tbh. And Rewrite was such a disaster, holy shit, I don't know what the fuck happened in the anime, I can't imagine how the fans felt about it.

Kinetic novels you'd think would be the most proper VNs to adapt, and while I think the Higurashi anime is fine (even though it also cut things out, but you have to know what those are to notice, maybe the new anime will fix this), the Umineko anime condensed four long, dense chapters into 26 episodes, and it fucking bombed to the point we don't know if it'll ever be adapted into an anime again. I mean, I still enjoyed the anime, and while I'm unable to play the VN, I've been reading the manga and it's like holy shit I don't know how Deen fucked this up when Higurashi managed to remain a comprehensible adaptation. The director for Higurashi returned for Umineko, but she dropped the ball pretty hard with Umineko. Maybe it wasn't truly her fault they could only make 26 episodes, but still. Damn.
 
Dom Cruise said:
Manga makes more money? Is that why there's so many animes out there that never adapted the complete stories of the manga?
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Manga is a lower-stakes investment since a publisher really only needs to pay a writer and artist and maybe an assistant or two for each manga series in a magazine, and quite often the manga is a solo effort. There's also the editorial staff and publishing costs but each editor handles multiple series and a lot of the editorial and publishing costs are offset by advertising anyway, at least for the mainstream manga magazines like Shounen Jump, and, of course, it's not like those phone-book sized manga weeklies or monthlies are free, so there's also the revenue from people who subscribe or buy it on the newsstand or the bookstore (or online readers who aren't sailing the high seas of piracy).
 
Love_Machine011 said:
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So is anyone else in the thread reading record of ragnarok? its gotten to the point where I'm tapping my vein for it every month. Its a tournament of Humanity's greatest chad's vs the gods. Its got great action and good art.
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I got hooked after Adam versus Zeus
It sucks that AmaisD, the person who originally made the video and others like it for this manga, got kicked off YouTube :(
 
Trombonista said:
I don't know why I keep getting into Pierrot-animated shows.
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I still stand by what I said that them going digital hurt their animation production and they lost some of that charm, but in terms of action and comedic timing, they still got it. There's still some fun to be had with their shows.
 
Listeners looks like the blandest most generic thing I've seen in a while. Even its "quirky" thing of "lol music references because music amirite".
 
I've watched the first episode of "Tower of God", it did not impress me but the amount of butthurt from /a/ and weebs made me glad it's made.
"Y-you're just a crunchyroll shill!1! samefag! how dare you like a non-japanese series!!!"
beautiful weeb tears.

I've also been re-watching anime that I've watched back in high school like Kino's journey and the daughter of twenty faces. They still hold up for me.
 
Toei started a youtube channel to put up a whole bunch of classic anime and tokusatsu shows. So far it's the first two eps of every show but more will be coming soon. Subtitles are also only in english so far.

I recommend we watch Kaiketsu Zubat and Combattler V for movie night
 
Hatoful Dandy said:
Toei started a youtube channel to put up a whole bunch of classic anime and tokusatsu shows. So far it's the first two eps of every show but more will be coming soon. Subtitles are also only in english so far.

I recommend we watch Kaiketsu Zubat and Combattler V for movie night
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There is a hell of a lot of stuff here that has never, ever seen an American release.
 
Hatoful Dandy said:
Toei started a youtube channel to put up a whole bunch of classic anime and tokusatsu shows. So far it's the first two eps of every show but more will be coming soon. Subtitles are also only in english so far.

I recommend we watch Kaiketsu Zubat and Combattler V for movie night
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That's cool. It doesn't always happen that big companies care about preserving this stuff.
 
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