Weebs, i need your help! i have taken a deep dive into older anime, but alot of it is hard to find. some of it like cyber city oedo 808 is on youtube, but alot of it is just not on the net, atleast not with some knd of subs or dubs, does anybody have a good source for stuff like that?
If something's on KissAnime (as full of malware and buggy as it is) or even 9anime, it'll be available somewhere on the web as a torrent. Orphan Fansubs is an excellent fan-sub group that tackles obscure titles--latest one I can think of (haven't checked lately for more recent anime) that they released this year was the one-episode OVA Edo Never Sleeps.
If something's on KissAnime (as full of malware and buggy as it is) or even 9anime, it'll be available somewhere on the web as a torrent. Orphan Fansubs is an excellent fan-sub group that tackles obscure titles--latest one I can think of (haven't checked lately for more recent anime) that they released this year was the one-episode OVA Edo Never Sleeps. View attachment 1062540
Torrents have always been a crapshoot when it comes to anime, even those just only 2-3 years old can sometimes have no one seeing it, not even the person who uploaded it.
On the topic of obscure anime, felt I should mention this one I heard of though it sounds like a fetishfag's wet dream more than anything.
I don't know the name of it, apparently the anime had a sorceress battling a lizard/salamander man or something. The character is supposedly blonde and wearing a purple suit with ornaments. It's a fantasy setting apparently and aired in the 90s (supposedly on a cable channel that aired anime late at night). This sorceress then shrinks the creature and swallows it (like sucks it in like a vacuum) whole. After a brief moment where she celebrates voring the creature, the creature then expands inside of her and causes her to expand and then pop.
Don't know much else but it's just one I heard of and it sounds interesting. Does an anime of that description come to mind?
Due to reasons Jinsuke has to live in secrecy with his mother. But they can't stay safe for long. Their pursuers catch up with them, and leave Jinsuke's mother for dead. Their mysterious neighbor Suzuki hears the gun shot, saves Jinsuke, and gets dragged into a murderous chain of events... On...
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Due to reasons Jinsuke has to live in secrecy with his mother. But they can’t stay safe for long. Their pursuers catch up with them, and leave Jinsuke’s mother for dead. Their mysterious neighbor Suzuki hears the gun shot, saves Jinsuke, and gets dragged into a murderous chain of events... On the run with the targeted boy, the solitary female assassin Suzuki discovers the warmth of human relationships for the first time.
Story about Charles-Henri Sanson, the Royal Executioner of France during the reign of King Louis XVI and High Executioner of the First French Republic.
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Story about Charles-Henri Sanson, the Royal Executioner of France during the reign of King Louis XVI and High Executioner of the First French Republic.
Tomoko tried to dye her hair silver and failed so she invited her old friend Yuu Naruse and, rather by accident, her much newer friend Asuka Katou over to do it for her. After they'd finished, Tomoko decided to try dying her "other hair" not realizing that the harsh chemicals will burn her crotch.
So I've got a natural tendency to like anti-heroes in media and stories ('The Punisher' is my favorite comic book character) because of how complex these characters can be, and the line where our sympathy begins and ends can often times be very blurry. In anime/manga, with a few gems here and there, it seems to be very littered with problems. Two major problems.
Either they tend to be outright sociopaths, thus defeating the point of being an anti-hero or they tend to come with massive caveats and 'wiggle room'. For example, I just got finished watching Overlord. While I understand Isekai in general, there's these massive 'outs' the protagonist gets to messy moral quandaries 'oh, he doesn't feel emotion anymore so there's this nebulous deus ex machina that removes the pesky things'. Except he has this great emotional attachment to his friends in the game or the former NPCs who basically worship him. The way the show bends and twists in the wind for having to justify him not being an outright cunt gets laughable at points, to where it'd just be better if they admitted he had feelings and had to keep them in check.
I mean, wouldn't it be horrifying to wake up in another body to not need sleep, food, desire or anything? I guess for an Otaku shut-in, that's heaven. But I mean, you're missing out on some great struggle as he tries to balance his humanity with him losing attachments to it. Like, the real struggle that goes on in becoming undead, trading your humanity and body and mind for power. Anybody Japan? No? We can wave it away with a single line of dialogue and a CGI effect? Ok.
With Japanese media, there's less of this moral struggle and either the protagonist is doing it because he's a sociopath or there's all this excuse making to make henious actions palatable (though I guess the thing everyone complains about in Overlord is the episode in the most recent season where he basically instigates people into robbing his own tomb because one of his subordinates thought it'd be a great idea and then he just went with it. Normally the show would have bent in directions for Ainz to be half-way decent, but strangely for one episode it treats him like a bitch and just gives up all pretense of this except a short monologue about it as he callously murders fucking everyone. Its obvious to me that if the show, manga and LN went with this from the beginning, nobody would keep with it.
Though the Season 3 finale was fucking hilarious to me
this sword guy challenges a lich who just fucking murdered 70k people in five minutes and summoned incarnations of madness to a one on one duel. He basically straight up says to him.
"You know I'm just going to kill you like instantly right? I'm not fucking around here"
"Yup."
"I mean, I feel really bad, because you're going to die, I can just make it so you get ress..."
"Nope. Muh honor."
"Uh, ok, you sure about that dude? This awesome sword you got, if you tapped into its power you might ki-"
"Don't care."
"I mean, really, you don't care? Alright. Like but seriously, you're going to die, you've got no shot. Why are you even doing this shit again?"
"I'm just doing this to show my friends over there how powerful you are so they'll believe me and find a weakness."
*looks to the 70 fucking thousand dead people on the battlefield, the five nameless dimensional horrors summoned from beyond the confines of time and space that probably just killed another 20-30 thousand*
"Alright dude, you're just fucking asking for it now."
"Here I-"
*Casts Timestop, Power Word: Death*
"There, I literally control time and kill with a word. Figure out a weakness for that. You fucking idiot. I feel so bad that this guy was such an asshole I'm not going to kill any more of your army because his idiocy makes me look good in comparison."
I think it was supposed to be dramatic? I guess? To me it was just funny.
But yeah, a lot of anime tends to have this problem. Its kind of rare you get protagonists like Nafoumi who is basically abused so the lines blur where he's basically had his heart ripped out in front of him.
Niggers of the anime thread, in light of ever vaster stretches of western media franchises turning to burning shit I have decided to indulge in another full length animay binge
Specifically the source of this seasonal mayme
Now, informed sources have revealed to me that this is that "Fate/Zero" doohicky franchise I periodically see mentioned in a positive way by neckbeards, and apparently the nip behind it also did Meduka which I rather liked, so I have decided to bite the "wait a minute there are HOW MANY different spinoffs and prequels and tie ins to this shit?!" bullet and steam through it over the coming weeks, a fact aided by me being entirely unspoiled thus far apart from vaguely knowing a bunch of historical and mythological figures are depicted as anime girls.
My question to yall is what exact viewing order is recommended?
Not Fate/Zero first, since that's a prequel and it features a bunch of characters you yet to have a reason to give a fuck about. Start with the oldest, Fate/Stay Night then branch off from there to Fate/Zero, Unlimited Blade Works, or even the Heaven's Feel movies (depending on whether you want to see a prequel or an alternative series of events). Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya is basically standalone and should be watched in order, and it stars "magical girls" and almost completely lacks said historical/mythological figures so you can skip it if you feel like it. Fate/Apocrypha and Fate/Grand Order have no direct tie-ins to the others that I am aware of so order of those is not important. If you need a break from the action and drama don't forget about Emiya-san Chi no Kyou no Gohan and Carnival Phantasm, which like Apocrypha and Grand Order should not be watched before Fate/Stay Night (so you know who is who or understand basic relationships/world mechanics).
Not-exactly-anime-but I just watched the second Thunderbolt Fantasy movie. It was pretty damn good. It's a prequel about The Song That Dooms Evil and how he joined Edgeless Blade's quest to seal away all the swords in notChina. It actually makes me wish they would have worked this story into Season 2 somewhere because me not giving a shit about The Song That Dooms Evil was one of the only low points of season 2. Also I really enjoyed the imperial princess but I'm sad that she didn't really get much retribution for her particular brand of evil.
I don't feel like listening to the whole thing again but Thunderbolt Fantasy did make Zac Bertschy's "honourable mentions" just outside his top 10 on the ANNCast "Best of 2010's" podcast. If I remember correctly, the only reason it didn't crack his top 10 was because, yeah, it's puppets instead of anime but, if Flowers of Evil, which is really just live-action with a tooned filter, could make some of the other top 10s (though not Zac's), I don't see why Thunderbolt Fantasy shouldn't "count" since it is still animation of non-living objects by humans.
So I've got a natural tendency to like anti-heroes in media and stories ('The Punisher' is my favorite comic book character) because of how complex these characters can be, and the line where our sympathy begins and ends can often times be very blurry. In anime/manga, with a few gems here and there, it seems to be very littered with problems. Two major problems.
Either they tend to be outright sociopaths, thus defeating the point of being an anti-hero or they tend to come with massive caveats and 'wiggle room'. For example, I just got finished watching Overlord. While I understand Isekai in general, there's these massive 'outs' the protagonist gets to messy moral quandaries 'oh, he doesn't feel emotion anymore so there's this nebulous deus ex machina that removes the pesky things'. Except he has this great emotional attachment to his friends in the game or the former NPCs who basically worship him. The way the show bends and twists in the wind for having to justify him not being an outright cunt gets laughable at points, to where it'd just be better if they admitted he had feelings and had to keep them in check.
I mean, wouldn't it be horrifying to wake up in another body to not need sleep, food, desire or anything? I guess for an Otaku shut-in, that's heaven. But I mean, you're missing out on some great struggle as he tries to balance his humanity with him losing attachments to it. Like, the real struggle that goes on in becoming undead, trading your humanity and body and mind for power. Anybody Japan? No? We can wave it away with a single line of dialogue and a CGI effect? Ok.
With Japanese media, there's less of this moral struggle and either the protagonist is doing it because he's a sociopath or there's all this excuse making to make henious actions palatable (though I guess the thing everyone complains about in Overlord is the episode in the most recent season where he basically instigates people into robbing his own tomb because one of his subordinates thought it'd be a great idea and then he just went with it. Normally the show would have bent in directions for Ainz to be half-way decent, but strangely for one episode it treats him like a bitch and just gives up all pretense of this except a short monologue about it as he callously murders fucking everyone. Its obvious to me that if the show, manga and LN went with this from the beginning, nobody would keep with it.
Though the Season 3 finale was fucking hilarious to me
this sword guy challenges a lich who just fucking murdered 70k people in five minutes and summoned incarnations of madness to a one on one duel. He basically straight up says to him.
"You know I'm just going to kill you like instantly right? I'm not fucking around here"
"Yup."
"I mean, I feel really bad, because you're going to die, I can just make it so you get ress..."
"Nope. Muh honor."
"Uh, ok, you sure about that dude? This awesome sword you got, if you tapped into its power you might ki-"
"Don't care."
"I mean, really, you don't care? Alright. Like but seriously, you're going to die, you've got no shot. Why are you even doing this shit again?"
"I'm just doing this to show my friends over there how powerful you are so they'll believe me and find a weakness."
*looks to the 70 fucking thousand dead people on the battlefield, the five nameless dimensional horrors summoned from beyond the confines of time and space that probably just killed another 20-30 thousand*
"Alright dude, you're just fucking asking for it now."
"Here I-"
*Casts Timestop, Power Word: Death*
"There, I literally control time and kill with a word. Figure out a weakness for that. You fucking idiot. I feel so bad that this guy was such an asshole I'm not going to kill any more of your army because his idiocy makes me look good in comparison."
I think it was supposed to be dramatic? I guess? To me it was just funny.
But yeah, a lot of anime tends to have this problem. Its kind of rare you get protagonists like Nafoumi who is basically abused so the lines blur where he's basically had his heart ripped out in front of him.
I am not sure if the anime covers it, but in the manga his new form as a lich has some sort of response trigger to strong emotions that shuts them down, and is slowly removing empathy, etc. from him period. It doesn’t cover his reaction/horror at his situation a whole lot more, but it is there. I may be mis-remembering, but I think that it even suggests that his lack of completely freaking out is due to this. I have not read the books it's all based upon, but I heard that it skips a lot of stuff.
I am not sure if the anime covers it, but in the manga his new form as a lich has some sort of response trigger to strong emotions that shuts them down, and is slowly removing empathy, etc. from him period. It doesn’t cover his reaction/horror at his situation a whole lot more, but it is there. I may be mis-remembering, but I think that it even suggests that his lack of completely freaking out is due to this. I have not read the books it's all based upon, but I heard that it skips a lot of stuff.
I imagine it does, but it still feels like a cop-out to me. It'd be more interesting if there was an internal dramatic struggle, or his horror at becoming inhuman. Its more plot focused than character focused. I guess its basically 'I didn't have any attachments anyway, so I don't care. Except my attachment to these NPCs and this base.'
That's really why its a cop-out. Because its not generally non-specific, but only pretaining to people and shit like that. Also I guess I find everyone being a perma-virgin hysterical. But that's generally an anime thing, romantic relationships are strangely avoided a lot of the time and its super noticable.
On the other hand, an Isekai that did explaining a protagonist's state of mind well is Cautious Hero. Episode 11 dropped and you can go back and look at all the previous episodes and the breadcrumbs they left for you there. Its a bit of an exposition dump, but looking back everything was planned and planted very well. It doesn't come out of nowhere and a lot of shit you don't think about just makes sense.
I think the LN of Overlord does Ainz better because you're usually in his head seeing him misinterpret everything around him because he's ultimately a middle management salaryman in way over his head. He doesn't really do horror or remorse because of the lich emotions hand wave but he is anxious and second guesses himself all the time. The anime tries to do it too but it seems to be less of a focus so they can focus on Ainz splating things.
At the same time, it's hard to say if he wasn't just a borderline sociopath to begin with because he effectively has no social life outside of this one videogame (which is why he was the last one left of a guild that listed an outside life as a requirement) and clearly has trouble with empathy.
Niggers of the anime thread, in light of ever vaster stretches of western media franchises turning to burning shit I have decided to indulge in another full length animay binge
Specifically the source of this seasonal mayme https://youtube.com/watch?v=MUpAtUuNG2A
Now, informed sources have revealed to me that this is that "Fate/Zero" doohicky franchise I periodically see mentioned in a positive way by neckbeards, and apparently the nip behind it also did Meduka which I rather liked, so I have decided to bite the "wait a minute there are HOW MANY different spinoffs and prequels and tie ins to this shit?!" bullet and steam through it over the coming weeks, a fact aided by me being entirely unspoiled thus far apart from vaguely knowing a bunch of historical and mythological figures are depicted as anime girls.
My question to yall is what exact viewing order is recommended?
1. Read the Fate/stay night visual novel. It's worth it and better than the adaptions. Afterwards watch Fate/Zero.
2. The specific character and video is from Fate/Extra. A spinoff to the psp which you can play without playing anything else (you will miss a few references). There is a Fate/Extra anime but... it's weird (not bad in my opinion, but definitely overly convoluted and requires you to know the setting).
1. Read the Fate/stay night visual novel. It's worth it and better than the adaptions. Afterwards watch Fate/Zero.
2. The specific character and video is from Fate/Extra. A spinoff to the psp which you can play without playing anything else (you will miss a few references). There is a Fate/Extra anime but... it's weird (not bad in my opinion, but definitely overly convoluted and requires you to know the setting).
Fate: Zero is fucking terrible. However, it's a pretty good guide on how to commit every literary sin possible within the span of one show so there's that I guess. It's practically the conceptualization of one of those "edgy" D&D players that want to play a half drow with a dark past and all that but just end up being super cringe and predictable.
