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The new (?) OPM 3 Episode shows that 4Kids-level censorship tactics are still a thing:

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Somehow a lollipop is an even bigger shit on a shit sundae of an anime, even compared to Yu-Gi-Oh!'s infamous invisible guns.
 
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So, I've been binging through the various Yu-Gi-Oh series since last year. It's been quite a ride, and I'm not even done yet. Even watched through Season 0 and all the manga that accompanied it. Seeing just how fucked up Atem could get was great, to the point a lot of it got censored in the anime. Dude really was like an anti-hero Jigsaw or something. Seeing the series get progressively more bizarre has been...something. Also Jonouchi (Joey) fought a serial killer that Kaiba hired to kill the main group and Jonouchi ended up killing him. And one of Kaiba's servants died from an electric chair because a baby shat on his lap.

GX - A school for dueling is the go-to joke, but it spirals into all sorts of more unusual shit involving numerous, different Duel Monster Dimensions and Judai having a card of his become a yandere for him, and he also fought a primordial being of light from the birth of the universe.
5Ds - Duels on bikes, but it does get stranger with duel monster cards that are modeled after the Nazca Lines, and a future version of the main character tries to kill everyone.
ZEXAL - The main character practically gets his own version of Atem, a spirit that's locked within a golden relic around his neck. By the end of things, they're trying to stop a god from flinging three dimensions together and killing everyone.
ARC-V - The world was split into four dimensions because a guy got so bloodthirsty from dueling that he fused with his dragon monsters and broke reality apart, and three of the dimensions only use a specific type of summoning method.

At this point I'm just watching to see what kind of weird shit they do next.
 
So, at this point, it's easy to see that One Punch Man Season 3 is an utter farce.
Not only is the animation so stilted that characters won't even move at all, with blatant animation errors everywhere.
The show ultimately validates the existence of AI-generated animation, something most animators can't stand to be true.



But what makes it even worse, they're now pulling a 4 Kids level of censorship, I wish I was joking.

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Yes, One-Punch Man has devolved to the point that it is the very censorship tactics everyone mocks 4Kids One Piece for.

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It's like poetry, it just rhymes.
 
I read the occasional manhwa and the overabundance of the bullying trope where the protagonist seeks violent revenge is so ridiculously overdone.

At least Rooftop Sword Master is so edgy and ridiculous that it turns into dark comedy, it reads like more of a parody of bullying revenge stories. It doesn't even explain where the sword came from or why the eight people who beat up the protagonist did it.

They're just practice dummies for sword techniques and the MC goes from skinny middle schooler in a coma to WWE wrestler in a manner of weeks or months. Gotta give it an A in the brutal violence category though. You don't read it for the story so much as you do to see bastards get destroyed in ludicrous ways, so I can understand its appeal in that manner.

I've read a little bit of a comic called Shark instead, and it's actually much better in storytelling, and even treats the antagonist like an actual character than a human tatami mat. The physical training goals are also a bit more grounded in reality as well.

It's honestly hard to find a good comic nowadays that the market is flooded. Ironically I started with Lookism after discovering it on the incel forums some time ago. But that comic has done what a lot of them do after a hundred pages or so and lost its original focus and message in a desperate bid to keep the series going.
 
God of Nothing said:
it's really big in korea
like, it's so prominent that it's even in their pornography
imagine how prevalent it has to be in society to get to that point
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A dude I work with, who is incidentally Asian himself, says that bullying is unfortunately a huge thing in Korea and that's why it's such a trope in the comics. The incidents that make the news are ridiculously rare and extreme though, but they do inspire a lot of writing.

Honestly I don't mind certain tropes being used to tell a story, but the authors often make their antagonists into human tatami mats instead of, you know, actual people in the story, with their own believable thoughts, ideas, and motivations.

Even Logan Lee from Lookism has a little bit of characterization, and he's a violent bully that is reasonably hated by the general audience. After all, he is an antagonist and it comes with the territory.

Overall though, the academic and social pressures that a lot of people face in Korea inspire quite a bit of writing, both good and bad. But the biggest reason that violent revenge fantasies, harem anime, and isekai stuff all appeal to a large section of the population is: well, overall, their lives aren't exactly the greatest.

Edit: grammar 😂
 
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Count Grishnackh said:
Watching and gooning to anime is:
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Now there's a "whygodwhy" thought that I'm going to need to drink several bottles of bleach in order to forget.

I forgot to mention that slice of life series often appeal to the same people that might read the types of manhwa I was bashing earlier.

The most notorious one is that one about a so-called "rental girlfriend" and the unbelievably pathetic male protagonist who throws away entire paychecks just to have her around.

The actual manga was panned by several people on YouTube, but they made an actual anime series of it. And for some reason it has four seasons so far.

I guess enough people are sad and lonely enough to buy it. Not to mention that the author himself is 50+, has a wife and daughter, and is in love with his own female protagonist. WTF mate 🤨
 
Duke Nukem said:
I read the occasional manhwa and the overabundance of the bullying trope where the protagonist seeks violent revenge is so ridiculously overdone.
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I kind of want to make the joke that most manhwa authors where probably on the receiving end and are just doing the same thing chris did with his a-logs when he drew his comics, but it might be more an issue with web comics overall.
There are two issues with web comics, one is the fans can have more of an influence over the author and the story through comments ratings, etc, and I've heard some cases of this actually changing the story. This is also true with Jap WNs since I think it was apothecary dairies that because of consistent comments on the website it was originally written on the author had to age down the main character from a middle aged adult to the late teen in the series and add a romance plot with a character who was meant to die after a few chapters.
Second issue is because there's no physical magazine or volumes for manhwa aside from a few rare exceptions, you can be even more of a hikikimori NEET and read just as much. With manga you at least as to be adjusted enough to be able to enter a store and buy what ever shit your in to, manhwa its just a few taps on your phone to start doom scrolling the latest bully revenge story that you may or may not be self inserting into. And depending on the service they might not be fully buying it, I think it was naviar or tapas where you'd buy coins that would unlock a chapter for about a week or two,
ever want to reread it well you have to just buy it again
 
God of Nothing said:
it's really big in korea
like, it's so prominent that it's even in their pornography
imagine how prevalent it has to be in society to get to that point
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Eh, I don't know about that. If you judged America by modern American entertainment, you would think we were a dystopia where White men rape, rob, assault, and murder innocent browns on a daily basis without consequences, while White women universally had an insatiable lust for brown men for no reason. Just because there are things heavily represented in a nation's entertainment doesn't necessarily mean that it is nearly as prevalent as the entertainment is presenting it to be. I can't say if bullying is really that bad there or not, but I usually take fiction with a grain of salt.

I could say the same about a lot of manga or anime. I doubt there's a prevalence of hot, big titted women lusting endlessly after short, average looking Japanese guys with no friends; I suppose I am playing devil's advocate here by claiming that appealing to the target audience by utilizing tropes they identify with doesn't mean that reality is the same as the story.
 
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