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Lone MacReady II said:
Yeah, speaking of Bastard and Miura... I'm "noticing" a lot of things. At first glance characters like Schneider, Gara, and Arshes bear a striking resemblance to Griffith, Guts, and Casca. Amon is basically Adon. There are 4 Demon Kings and a Dark God which immediately made me think of the Godhand. And there's even a cursed suit of armor which devoirs the wearer to a skeleton... The inspiration seems pretty obvious. Hell the imagery alone is giving me Eclipse flashbacks...
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Would it make you feel better to know that Bastard!! is one year older than Berserk

Edit: Just for curiosity sake, the original OVA adaptation predates the end of the Golden Age arc.
 
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HexFag said:
if there's a horse girl with an enka victory song i'd download and binge the entire series instantly
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Unfortunately the enka song is a one time thing, although its still one of 2-3 victory songs in the 19 episodes out so far. Cinderella Gray defiantly leans more into a sports series then the main series with the lack of idol concerts and what seems like, not that much school scenes now that I think about it (its mainly Oguri training or other characters watching races)
One thing I'm split on is they seem to be leaning more in mirroring history a little more, case and point would be the recent race where The series has set up Oguri Cap and Tamamo Cross as the main two rivals where the later is trying to win 3 specific races in a row and the former is just trying to beat the later, but during the second race a random American horse no ones ever heard of manages to beat both of them, then goes back home and never actually wins a major race again.

Which beat for beat, happened in 1988, right down to the favorite to win coming in 5th due to a broken leg.
 
Lone MacReady II said:
Yeah, speaking of Bastard and Miura... I'm "noticing" a lot of things. At first glance characters like Schneider, Gara, and Arshes bear a striking resemblance to Griffith, Guts, and Casca. Amon is basically Adon. There are 4 Demon Kings and a Dark God which immediately made me think of the Godhand. And there's even a cursed suit of armor which devoirs the wearer to a skeleton... The inspiration seems pretty obvious. Hell the imagery alone is giving me Eclipse flashbacks...
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*Dramatic rape music plays*
 
Oddjob OTP said:
Would it make you feel better to know that Bastard!! is one year older than Berserk

Edit: Just for curiosity sake, the original OVA adaptation predates the end of the Golden Age arc.
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The OVA was 1993 and the start of the eclipse was 1996, but this might just be a case of similar influences producing similar results. Both Miura and Hagiwara are/where both big Go Nagai fans and both probably nicked the idea of the demonic looking guy being the good guy and the angel looking one evil from Devilman and I believe both where fond of some western fantasy, for Hagiwara it was stuff like first edition DnD and Fighting Fantasy (and I suppose a lot of heavy metal album covers and iconography), Miura I think it was stuff like Conan and Elric of Melnibone (although he gave a lot of different influences over the years)
 
How much shit did Go do first? You got Devilman, I think some of the earliest mecha with Mazinkaiser, and of course - Honey.
 
Probably the last time I'll bring it up (I didn't even watch the latest episode, and I have no plans to watch the rest of the season) but this is just hilariously depressing. Such a thing as too manga accurate.

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So I intend to pick up two of three complete series in the coming week and was curious if people here have read them and which of them they would recommend.
Just going to drop a couple of names, in the end it will come down to price and availability.

Black Lagoon, Trigun/Trigun Maximum, Seven Deadly Sins, xxxHolic, Slam Dunk, Yotsuba, Banana Fish, 20th Century Boys, The Fable, Jujustsu Kaisen, Dr Stone, Yu Yu Hakusho.


Just a couple of things that caught my attention. Maybe the art looked interesting, I saw the anime, I am familiar with other work from the mangaka, the premise was intriguing, or it's Shonen which I will only read and never watch.
 
I Know 孤独のせい said:
Black Lagoon, Trigun/Trigun Maximum, Seven Deadly Sins, xxxHolic, Slam Dunk, Yotsuba, Banana Fish, 20th Century Boys, The Fable, Jujustsu Kaisen, Dr Stone, Yu Yu Hakusho.
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Black Lagoon is really good, keep in mind the manga for it is unfinished and is very slow to update. Trigun and Trigun Maximum I don't know much about, though I do remember watching the og anime. Slamdunk is apparently really good, though again I've never personally seen it. JJK is meh to me but I don't like most modern shonen. I haven't watched Dr Stone, Yu Yu Hakusho is great but the author very much phoned it in because he grew more interested in Hunter X Hunter.

I haven't seen Seven Deadly Sins, XXXholic, Yotsuba, Bananafish, 20th Century Boys or The Fable
 
vern said:
The OVA was 1993 and the start of the eclipse was 1996, but this might just be a case of similar influences producing similar results. Both Miura and Hagiwara are/where both big Go Nagai fans and both probably nicked the idea of the demonic looking guy being the good guy and the angel looking one evil from Devilman and I believe both where fond of some western fantasy, for Hagiwara it was stuff like first edition DnD and Fighting Fantasy (and I suppose a lot of heavy metal album covers and iconography), Miura I think it was stuff like Conan and Elric of Melnibone (although he gave a lot of different influences over the years)
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As far as blatant inspiration goes I will die on the hill saying that Dark Schneider's adopted daughter/waifu Arshes Nei exists purely as a consequence of the sexual awakening that Record of Lodoss War gave Japan via Deedlet/Pirotess

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Always found Hagiwara semi-retiring out the in industry (seems to mostly irregularly do production roles now) really sad because he was a great illustrator and it's too bad he never finished Bastard or at least got it to a reasonable stopping point (IIRC DS was killed and sent to hell to fight his way back out in the last few chapters released).

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Whole thing kind of reminds me of Masamune Shirow except that was because of losing his office in an earthquake and his dad needing a lot of care and not just burning out.
 
Oddjob OTP said:
As far as blatant inspiration goes I will die on the hill saying that Dark Schneider's adopted daughter/waifu Arshes Nei exists purely as a consequence of the sexual awakening that Record of Lodoss War gave Japan via Deedlet/Pirotess

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Always found Hagiwara semi-retiring out the in industry (seems to mostly irregularly do production roles now) really sad because he was a great illustrator and it's too bad he never finished Bastard or at least got it to a reasonable stopping point (IIRC DS was killed and sent to hell to fight his way back out in the last few chapters released).

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Whole thing kind of reminds me of Masamune Shirow except that was because of losing his office in an earthquake and his dad needing a lot of care and not just burning out.
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Maybe, Lodass War technically came out in 1986, 2 years before Bastard, but only as a write up of a DnD game the author playerd and submitted for a magazine, actually found a archived translation of this

The novel version didn't come out till 1988, the OVA was 1990, and the first manga 1991. That being said it is possible Hagiwara was aware of the write up from way back because he was a big DnD fan and probably would of read the magazines it was being published in.
 
Oddjob OTP said:
As far as blatant inspiration goes I will die on the hill saying that Dark Schneider's adopted daughter/waifu Arshes Nei exists purely as a consequence of the sexual awakening that Record of Lodoss War gave Japan via Deedlet/Pirotess
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Deedlit was the Frieren of her day that's for sure. Though I still like Lodoss War more, the visuals, scale, and sense of wonder were just better. That might change if season 2 Frieren delivers. Less than 2 months to go until more human on elf goodness.
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Kinda late but


One of the veteran animators, Takashi Hashimoto, spoke out against the criticism of Season 3's animation quality. He also accuses foreigners of watching the show "illegally" overseas.
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This is a shame because Takashi is a talented animator who has previously worked on shows/films like DBS Broly or Ghost in the Shell.
 
Finished reading Golden Wind yesterday. Not too much to say which I haven't already mentioned when talking about the earlier parts. It's a goddamn mess. The art itself is fine, but the paneling and individual drawings gets so busy sometimes I didn't know what Araki was trying to portray. The character and stand designs didn't help in this regard either. The entire thing feels like a culmination of Arkai's worst tendencies. Story and fights are just convoluted nonsense, even though the story itself is okay. The explanation for the protagonist's existence is so dumb, no idea how nobody made a fuss about this. It's also hilarious that someone had to put Araki into the tard wrangler because I have no other explanation how he could make probably one of the most OP stands and then just drop that character like a hot potato when he realized that would throw a wrench into the entire thing. Cleary, at some point, nobody gave a shit anymore when another character just kept going for no reason other than that the entire thing would have collapsed otherwise.

Apart from the art sometimes looking great, a lot of unique noncombat Stands and that chapter before the main story kicks off, I have nothing positive to say about this. Finally, time for Stone Ocean, which is the first JoJo I have no idea about.
 
I Know 孤独のせい said:
Finished reading Golden Wind yesterday. Not too much to say which I haven't already mentioned when talking about the earlier parts. It's a goddamn mess. The art itself is fine, but the paneling and individual drawings gets so busy sometimes I didn't know what Araki was trying to portray. The character and stand designs didn't help in this regard either. The entire thing feels like a culmination of Arkai's worst tendencies. Story and fights are just convoluted nonsense, even though the story itself is okay. The explanation for the protagonist's existence is so dumb, no idea how nobody made a fuss about this. It's also hilarious that someone had to put Araki into the tard wrangler because I have no other explanation how he could make probably one of the most OP stands and then just drop that character like a hot potato when he realized that would throw a wrench into the entire thing. Cleary, at some point, nobody gave a shit anymore when another character just kept going for no reason other than that the entire thing would have collapsed otherwise.

Apart from the art sometimes looking great, a lot of unique noncombat Stands and that chapter before the main story kicks off, I have nothing positive to say about this. Finally, time for Stone Ocean, which is the first JoJo I have no idea about.
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finally
someone else who didn't understand why people loved golden wind
 
The bus arc (seemingly) ended really quickly, I expected it to be like the boat arc and be half a season. It's great seeing Anya somehow win speech checks.
I Know 孤独のせい said:
Finished reading Golden Wind yesterday. Not too much to say which I haven't already mentioned when talking about the earlier parts. It's a goddamn mess. The art itself is fine, but the paneling and individual drawings gets so busy sometimes I didn't know what Araki was trying to portray. The character and stand designs didn't help in this regard either. The entire thing feels like a culmination of Arkai's worst tendencies. Story and fights are just convoluted nonsense, even though the story itself is okay. The explanation for the protagonist's existence is so dumb, no idea how nobody made a fuss about this. It's also hilarious that someone had to put Araki into the tard wrangler because I have no other explanation how he could make probably one of the most OP stands and then just drop that character like a hot potato when he realized that would throw a wrench into the entire thing. Cleary, at some point, nobody gave a shit anymore when another character just kept going for no reason other than that the entire thing would have collapsed otherwise.

Apart from the art sometimes looking great, a lot of unique noncombat Stands and that chapter before the main story kicks off, I have nothing positive to say about this. Finally, time for Stone Ocean, which is the first JoJo I have no idea about.
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At least as an anime viewer, Golden Wind is the worst written of the arcs so far, but god damn it has a lot of style and some really cool battles. Polnareff got done dirty though.
 
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