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The original BGC really spoke to me, you know, it was one of those future-aesthetics as projected from 80s economic boom era Japan that was perhaps as soon as a decade afterwards already seen by some as "charmingly retro" like original 1930s sci-fi raygun gothic or 1950s visions of the future featuring space-explorer uniforms that came with neckties and room-sized computers with lots of blinking lights and sleek rocketships with fins.

I was listening to the remastered soundtrack recently - some of the songs' lyrics' were written by Tomoko Aran, (for example "Konya wa Hurricane", "Mad Machine", "Asu e Touchdown") who released some pop albums back in the day:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=WQ-fuYZnVCE
If you liked the Bubblegum Crisis designs, I highly recommend looking through the AnimEigo settei collection (it takes a while for all the pictures to load by the way). The city drawings are wonderful, and I also like the vehicle designs, especially the AD Police ones.
 
Well this week's was pretty solid. Goblin Slayer fought a Sea Serpent and went to the capital with Sword Maiden. Shield hero wrapped up the Emperor Dragon arc well. Frieren tried to be smexy with this priest and was adorable. Apothecary Diaries is setting up a new arc which is looking pretty good and pretty heavy.
 
When does the new season of made in abyss begin? The last season was devastating. The relationship between Vueko and Irumyuui was soul shattering. I'm possed that we have to wait for some fat pervert to stimulate his imagination just to see the end. I feel like this is the first series since Sailor Moon to truly affect me so deeply.
 
When does the new season of made in abyss begin? The last season was devastating. The relationship between Vueko and Irumyuui was soul shattering. I'm possed that we have to wait for some fat pervert to stimulate his imagination just to see the end. I feel like this is the first series since Sailor Moon to truly affect me so deeply.
The general watch order is S1 -> Movie -> S2. If you're asking for where the manga continues after the arc it's chapter 61 of 66 as of this post. This nigga does not update this manga (probably since he's too busy stalking children for "references").
 
Yeah it's mainly the animators for Jujutsu Kaisen. Which makes sense since they never got a single break at all and were shuffled to season 2 after doing both Chainsaw Man and the Jujutsu Kaisen movie.

Maybe it's just me, but the Shibuya incident seemed more impactful and interesting as just a comic strip. When it got animated, it got kind of underwhelming? Like, the rush-ness of Gege's writing is more apparent as an animated tv episode than a comic book. The arc is almost done and the characters that died we've only seen them for like 3-5 episodes at most. There's no investment.

Speaking of...

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- Padding
- Bullshit plot convenience.
- Further rushing things

All in one chapter.
 
Maybe it's just me, but the Shibuya incident seemed more impactful and interesting as just a comic strip. When it got animated, it got kind of underwhelming? Like, the rush-ness of Gege's writing is more apparent as an animated tv episode than a comic book. The arc is almost done and the characters that died we've only seen them for like 3-5 episodes at most. There's no investment.

Speaking of...

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- Padding
- Bullshit plot convenience.
- Further rushing things

All in one chapter.
are you just now getting that gege isn't a good writer
 
I'm honestly liking the series more and more but did anyone else notice a small annoying group of animeonly fans who where pissed that Sein is part of the main cast.
I think these are just yurifags mad that another guy joined the main cast when Aura was literally told to kill herself (I was a few weeks behind when the episode came out but the amount of art I've seen them spam of her actually made me think Frieren was gonna make her join or some shit)
 
I think these are just yurifags mad that another guy joined the main cast when Aura was literally told to kill herself (I was a few weeks behind when the episode came out but the amount of art I've seen them spam of her actually made me think Frieren was gonna make her join or some shit)
she's a booba shortstack, of course there's "art" of her. Still doesn't make it any more likely that Frieren will allow a demon to join her.
 
Maybe it's just me, but the Shibuya incident seemed more impactful and interesting as just a comic strip. When it got animated, it got kind of underwhelming? Like, the rush-ness of Gege's writing is more apparent as an animated tv episode than a comic book. The arc is almost done and the characters that died we've only seen them for like 3-5 episodes at most. There's no investment.

Speaking of...

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- Padding
- Bullshit plot convenience.
- Further rushing things

All in one chapter.
It always amazes me how much Jujutsu is the leftist meme of manga. I remember when the Shibuya arc originally happened the joke was that you had like several pages of explanation after every action scene.
 
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I heard from my brother there's some noise happening in MAPPA? A lot of the artists are on social media complaining about a toxic work environment?
MAPPA came to this level of pathology where animators have so little time to make new episodes that they need to make final corrections a few hours before broadcast on TV. There is also the situation with SnK director who didn't go home for 3 days due to the overwork. The main culprit is probably CEO of MAPPA - Manabu Otsuka. His main goal is drastic progress of MAPPA in order to be on par with big studios like KyoAni. This is why he takes all the big series without thinking about his animators. Just a reminder that production of Jujutsu Kaisen 0 took only 4 months. This is insane considering how good the movie looks. So what Manabu did afterwards? He rewarded his animators with new, even worse standard of work and NDA.
 
Maybe it's just me, but the Shibuya incident seemed more impactful and interesting as just a comic strip. When it got animated, it got kind of underwhelming? Like, the rush-ness of Gege's writing is more apparent as an animated tv episode than a comic book. The arc is almost done and the characters that died we've only seen them for like 3-5 episodes at most. There's no investment.
I'm sick of modern animu fights in general. Years of poor budgets, bad cinematography and choreography, and the "superpowered" nature of many show's characters has turned fights into confusing messes of scratchy animation and "3d block" environments and scribbles. I first noticed it in things like MHA, AoT, and FMA, and even studios like Madhouse do it now with Frieren. Recently, JJK has been a very blatant example of it. The environment and characters devolve into confusing messes and it all looks terrible and impossible to follow. I compare any modern animu shakey cam fight to just a minor scuffle from something like bebop.
Did you check out Chrono Crusade yet? Closest thing I could think of in top of my head.
I'm torn.
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I'm sick of modern animu fights in general. Years of poor budgets, bad cinematography and choreography, and the "superpowered" nature of many show's characters has turned fights into confusing messes of scratchy animation and "3d block" environments and scribbles. I first noticed it in things like MHA, AoT, and FMA, and even studios like Madhouse do it now with Frieren. Recently, JJK has been a very blatant example of it. The environment and characters devolve into confusing messes and it all looks terrible and impossible to follow. I compare any modern animu shakey cam fight to just a minor scuffle from something like bebop.
It feels like modern animations have things completely ass-backwards. Instead of involving relatively simple scenes with interesting participants, they simplify the visuals so they can make everything happen in fast-forward.

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These two scenes from LoGH are not exceptionally complex or fast paced, but the sheer detail on the actual actors and all the little technical flourishes make them feel alive. The way the liquid metal splashes in response to the hoverbike crashing into it. The brief spray of fuel when one takes a hit. The guy hopping to an enemy hoverbike, dispatching its riders, then jumping back to an ally. The way the battleaxe visibly shows a sense of heft and impact. I don't think it's even impossible to do in the modern age. There's likely no shortage of bells and whistles you can cut from an animation pipeline to make things easier and free up time for really going into all the little details.
Maybe there's just pressure from studios to forgo longevity for short-term profits, but great risk means potentially great reward. Say what you want about Evangelion, it took a risk with its own distinctive themes which it only just barely managed to hold together, yet it managed to spawn a massive media franchise that maintains a degree of relevance and profitability to this very day. Almost everything today feels passable but fewer things really have that X-Factor that makes you remember something more than a month after you saw it.
 
It feels like modern animations have things completely ass-backwards. Instead of involving relatively simple scenes with interesting participants, they simplify the visuals so they can make everything happen in fast-forward.
I won't be surprised if the animators are using Hollywood films as reference for a lot of action scenes. Modern Hollywood (and animators) can't grasp timing and weight in choreography, even if the actors are LARPing the fight scenes on set. You can see all that in the mess that is Rey and Kylo Ren and enemies swinging lightsabers around without a single care. (I swear there's a proper .gif of the raw footage, but I can't find it atm.)

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Anime seemingly gets a pass for this just because it's flashy enough to distract the average viewer from the technical imperfections that only a trained (re: autistic) eye can spot.
 
Maybe there's just pressure from studios to forgo longevity for short-term profits, but great risk means potentially great reward. Say what you want about Evangelion, it took a risk with its own distinctive themes which it only just barely managed to hold together, yet it managed to spawn a massive media franchise that maintains a degree of relevance and profitability to this very day. Almost everything today feels passable but fewer things really have that X-Factor that makes you remember something more than a month after you saw it.
People just like overly flashy animation so it's easier just put shit ton of particle effects rather than make weighty combat. The Fate Heaven's Feel was fucking unwatchable for me, but I saw people claiming it had the best fights in anime.

Since someone mentioned Frieren, I saw they went really hard on clothes physics, which is pretty amazing. I also didn't feel the combat was as chaotic to make it unwatchable.
 
People just like overly flashy animation so it's easier just put shit ton of particle effects rather than make weighty combat. The Fate Heaven's Feel was fucking unwatchable for me, but I saw people claiming it had the best fights in anime.
Does it make me a major hypocrite that I didn't like the fights in the Heaven's Feel movie for being incomprehensible but I still like stuff like FLCL and Dead Leaves? I think I just don't like the special effects that ufotable uses because I feel the exact same way about Heaven's Feel that I feel about Demon Slayer.
Since someone mentioned Frieren, I saw they went really hard on clothes physics, which is pretty amazing. I also didn't feel the combat was as chaotic to make it unwatchable.
https://vxtwitter.com/DanKantori/status/1729130546431934874
Also it might be because I'm biased, but Frieren doesn't have the same issue that something like JJK might have when it comes to fights being incomprehensible. They're flashy, yeah, but it's still completely possible to tell what's going on.


I'm sick of modern animu fights in general. Years of poor budgets, bad cinematography and choreography, and the "superpowered" nature of many show's characters has turned fights into confusing messes of scratchy animation and "3d block" environments and scribbles. I first noticed it in things like MHA, AoT, and FMA, and even studios like Madhouse do it now with Frieren. Recently, JJK has been a very blatant example of it. The environment and characters devolve into confusing messes and it all looks terrible and impossible to follow. I compare any modern animu shakey cam fight to just a minor scuffle from something like bebop.

I'm torn.
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You could also see this with how End of Evangelion did its fights versus the rebuilds. The Evas had legitimate weight behind them when they attacked or carried objects and in the rebuilds, they feel almost weightless.
 
Does it make me a major hypocrite that I didn't like the fights in the Heaven's Feel movie for being incomprehensible but I still like stuff like FLCL and Dead Leaves? I think I just don't like the special effects that ufotable uses because I feel the exact same way about Heaven's Feel that I feel about Demon Slayer.
I don't remember those but they were way before the technology to automatically add the effects digitally, so people still needed to put in the effort. So there's still charm in craziness that way.
 
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