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You know what I miss? The weird and brooding anime of the early to mid 2000's. Most of them sat somewhere in the middle of sucking dick to ok but I kind of like them for their unique vibe. It was the early digital era when everything was washed out, low resolution and CGI was just starting to become common place. A lot of the digital effects haven't aged that well but I feel like the lighting and shot composition where much better back then. Anime nowadays is really visually bland in a way.

These shows distinctly not all that Japanese in sensibility and I feel like the anime industry was experimenting with telling a atmospheric story that was trying to be something not very anime like. Something they believed would sell better in the West. They weren't all like that of cause and there's just as many slice of life, ecchi, harem, romcoms as there are Boogiepop Phantom, Ergo Proxy and GiTS.

There's nothing wrong with the core otaku/weeb anime and if that's your thing then whatever but I do miss when anime was trying something new. It didn't always work but it was interesting or maybe it's nostalgia.
 
Fools Idol said:
You know what I miss? The weird and brooding anime of the early to mid 2000's. Most of them sat somewhere in the middle of sucking dick to ok but I kind of like them for their unique vibe. It was the early digital era when everything was washed out, low resolution and CGI was just starting to become common place. A lot of the digital effects haven't aged that well but I feel like the lighting and shot composition where much better back then. Anime nowadays is really visually bland in a way.

These shows distinctly not all that Japanese in sensibility and I feel like the anime industry was experimenting with telling a atmospheric story that was trying to be something not very anime like. Something they believed would sell better in the West. They weren't all like that of cause and there's just as many slice of life, ecchi, harem, romcoms as there are Boogiepop Phantom, Ergo Proxy and GiTS.

There's nothing wrong with the core otaku/weeb anime and if that's your thing then whatever but I do miss when anime was trying something new. It didn't always work but it was interesting or maybe it's nostalgia.
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We're in the great age of the isekai now where there's an isekai for every possible situation. I wonder if 10 years from now we will look nostalgically back on the good isekai shows like Overlord.
 
Fools Idol said:
You know what I miss? The weird and brooding anime of the early to mid 2000's. Most of them sat somewhere in the middle of sucking dick to ok but I kind of like them for their unique vibe. It was the early digital era when everything was washed out, low resolution and CGI was just starting to become common place. A lot of the digital effects haven't aged that well but I feel like the lighting and shot composition where much better back then. Anime nowadays is really visually bland in a way.

These shows distinctly not all that Japanese in sensibility and I feel like the anime industry was experimenting with telling a atmospheric story that was trying to be something not very anime like. Something they believed would sell better in the West. They weren't all like that of cause and there's just as many slice of life, ecchi, harem, romcoms as there are Boogiepop Phantom, Ergo Proxy and GiTS.

There's nothing wrong with the core otaku/weeb anime and if that's your thing then whatever but I do miss when anime was trying something new. It didn't always work but it was interesting or maybe it's nostalgia.
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I would take this and extend it to Late 80s-90s dark anime. The stuff that got released in OVAs and films, like Ninja Scroll and Vampire Hunter D. Not all of it was good, mind you, but some, like Genocyber, were far better than most people remember it (at least the first episode and second episode, to a lesser extent). I remember the very first of these dark 80s/90s anime I saw, Bio-Hunter. I saw that when I was 12 years old. Changed my life, and I have had a special place in my heart for schlock anime ever since. No matter the quality, I always love stuff like Ghost in the Shell, Armitage III, Demon City Shinjuku, Wicked City, Witch Hunter Robin, Serial Experiments Lain, Wolf's Rain, etc. If you want a good early 2000s dark anime, I highly recommend anyone here check out Texnolyze, probably the darkest, most cynical anime ever made.
 
Fools Idol said:
You know what I miss? The weird and brooding anime of the early to mid 2000's. Most of them sat somewhere in the middle of sucking dick to ok but I kind of like them for their unique vibe. It was the early digital era when everything was washed out, low resolution and CGI was just starting to become common place. A lot of the digital effects haven't aged that well but I feel like the lighting and shot composition where much better back then. Anime nowadays is really visually bland in a way.

These shows distinctly not all that Japanese in sensibility and I feel like the anime industry was experimenting with telling a atmospheric story that was trying to be something not very anime like. Something they believed would sell better in the West. They weren't all like that of cause and there's just as many slice of life, ecchi, harem, romcoms as there are Boogiepop Phantom, Ergo Proxy and GiTS.

There's nothing wrong with the core otaku/weeb anime and if that's your thing then whatever but I do miss when anime was trying something new. It didn't always work but it was interesting or maybe it's nostalgia.
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The early digipaint era will always have a place in my heart simply for the sheer variety in shows being released during the time that really hasn't been seen since. Yeah you still had your shounen anime (think of the Big 3) but outside of that it was an interesting time to be an anime fan. You don't really see something like Trava Fist Planet/REDLINE, Haibane Renmei, Dead Leaves, NHK, or BECK nowadays. They all feel so "2000s", man. The worst part of that time period is that everything is doomed to being horribly preserved and most shows will be stuck in 576p-DVD format hell for the rest of time.

Car Won't Crank said:
We're in the great age of the isekai now where there's an isekai for every possible situation. I wonder if 10 years from now we will look nostalgically back on the good isekai shows like Overlord.
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It'll probably be the same way we look at battle-school anime and Shounen anime from like 20 years ago. Ones like Konosuba, Re:Zero, and Isekai Ojisan are going to be fondly remembered while the rest are just kind of seen as slop garbage like Elfen Lied.

Speaking of Isekai Ojisan, has anybody else noticed a trend that anime being made by new studios are running into a fuckton of production problems? Isekai Ojisan took a whole year to release 13 episodes due to delays and now another show I'm watching, Zom 100, is also running into a fuck ton of production issues. These anime were both made by new studios who did maybe one or no other anime previously. I'm sure this isn't the first time it has happened, but I wonder if production issues between these anime are saying something about the industry as a whole.
 
HexFag said:
Speaking of Isekai Ojisan, has anybody else noticed a trend that anime being made by new studios are running into a fuckton of production problems? Isekai Ojisan took a whole year to release 13 episodes due to delays and now another show I'm watching, Zom 100, is also running into a fuck ton of production issues. These anime were both made by new studios who did maybe one or no other anime previously. I'm sure this isn't the first time it has happened, but I wonder if production issues between these anime are saying something about the industry as a whole.
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I remember reading an article just a few months ago explaining the likely root cause of this. Many of these studios outsource their animation to CHYNA and CHYNA is not doing very well between the economic woes(Evergrande is apparently filing for bankruptcy) and the flooding of the Yangtze river, fresh on the heels of a relatively mild covid wave being enough to strain their healthcare system damn near to the breaking point. All of this is of course being exacerbated by the severe population contraction they are currently undergoing as a consequence of their 30 year long one child policy.
 
I still have to finish watching GR Giant Robo, I am watching it dubbed in my language and holy shit it is a slog.

https://youtu.be/M4bHbZX-fqk?si=LwmHhTr6bWTWWlkA

It really tickles my ancient technology is superior to our own, but the show's dialogue isn't entertaining at all, without energy of its older brother Giant Robot the day Earth stood still.

I Guess the only one who got right was RahXephon which is great

https://youtu.be/4t1_35xiub4?si=u_ujeobYGyfwGTV2

I always chase this mecha feeling but it is really hard to get it... My lastest try was Argento Soma but holy shit this had so many problems.
 
We've gone entire year without talking about Franken Fran? I last read it in middle school, so imagine my joy when I found out a week ago it got continuation and I read all the 50 chapters in one go. There even was even Farms related plot-ish where the school anime sperg wants sex change operation, gets one, only to later transition back to female and even later becomes some genderblob. Sort of like reverse Mister Garrison. I was mildly surprised they're allowed to make fun of her instead of depicting her with sympathy. But now I'm veerying into cultural war shit, so I'll just conclude by saying I enjoyed Franken Fran Frantic very much.
 
This guy on Twitter has translated a bunch of manga and story materials from the original Japanese toylines that would later form Transformers. He has a wealth of material, and I've only been able to find it on his Twitter account. I'll post the manga here:

https://twitter.com/_necronomitron_/status/1546997665262555141


Registration said:
I still have to finish watching GR Giant Robo, I am watching it dubbed in my language and holy shit it is a slog.

https://youtu.be/M4bHbZX-fqk?si=LwmHhTr6bWTWWlkA

It really tickles my ancient technology is superior to our own, but the show's dialogue isn't entertaining at all, without energy of its older brother Giant Robot the day Earth stood still.

I Guess the only one who got right was RahXephon which is great

https://youtu.be/4t1_35xiub4?si=u_ujeobYGyfwGTV2

I always chase this mecha feeling but it is really hard to get it... My lastest try was Argento Soma but holy shit this had so many problems.
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You may want to try Gasaraki. It's pretty good, with some politics and weird spiritual stuff.
 
Toivo Antikainen said:
We've gone entire year without talking about Franken Fran? I last read it in middle school, so imagine my joy when I found out a week ago it got continuation and I read all the 50 chapters in one go. There even was even Farms related plot-ish where the school anime sperg wants sex change operation, gets one, only to later transition back to female and even later becomes some genderblob. Sort of like reverse Mister Garrison. I was mildly surprised they're allowed to make fun of her instead of depicting her with sympathy. But now I'm veerying into cultural war shit, so I'll just conclude by saying I enjoyed Franken Fran Frantic very much.
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I am waiting the sequel to end. I love that roaches chapter from the original.

@Sailor Troon
Gasaraki is on the list, I really love 5he designs by Izubuchi
 
Finished the new Bastard series. Kinda character bloat but still pretty awesome, sadly the OP and ED are worse. I like that they actually do the lampshading jokes well, by not doing putting them each scene and waiting until the more serious tone to die down.

Also continuing with Undead Girl Murder Farce. I thought at the start it will be another Gosick (which I remember was pretty nice) with more deductive plot, but it now became more action adventure with ton of literary characters, which is also nice.
 
Registration said:
I still have to finish watching GR Giant Robo, I am watching it dubbed in my language and holy shit it is a slog.

https://youtu.be/M4bHbZX-fqk?si=LwmHhTr6bWTWWlkA

It really tickles my ancient technology is superior to our own, but the show's dialogue isn't entertaining at all, without energy of its older brother Giant Robot the day Earth stood still.
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GR Giant Robo was neat. I liked how it did it's own thing and didn't just retread the OVA or even the original manga.
The true mastermind behind the BFN being named Johnny Sokko was a trip. I didn't expect a reference to the English dubbed version of the old Giant Robo tokusatsu show.
 
Sailor Troon said:
You may want to try Gasaraki. It's pretty good, with some politics and weird spiritual stuff.
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That was disappointing. The plot is trite and copies Eva too much. The mecha and and action scene direction are good, but the writing has this laziness to it that makes the show forgettable. If you can't handle writing politics, don't write politics.
 
Well, they're not wrong.
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Shidoen said:
Any good animes that harken very strongly to the western fantasy genre. I remember this one ova where it's a bunch of girls in a dungeon and one pulls a switch and they fall to their deaths or something like that. I really don't watch a lot of tv or movies anymore so I just want some good ole fashioned kiwi recommends.
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The only two titles I'm aware of are Record of Lodoss War and the first Berserk adapation both of which I found wanting. Maybe you might appreciate them more than I did.
 
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