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I quite liked the first 10 episodes of ZZ, with Mashymre and the kids. Once the show got back to the serious Federation vs Zeon war, I started to lose interest. My issue with the UC timeline after Zeta - and the issue with Gundam as a whole - is that it's the same, tired story of an oppressive earth federation that incites a space revolution which gets hijacked by crazies. War erupts, protagonist joins the Federation and helps put down the revolution. The Federation is still corrupt and isn't reformed and is still oppressing the space colonies, the cycle will repeat again in a few years. It never ends. There is no hope for a happily ever.
 
Doctor of Autism said:
Yeah isekai is going into a completely different dimension. Reincarnation is just reincarnation.
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It seems to be getting a bit out of hand recently, I've even seen some people recently call Detective Conan an Isekai because they falsely think Conan/Shinichi was reincarnated in a kids body, but that might just be one schizo trying to shill the gook anime airing this season.
 
skykiii said:
any Mazinger Z fans here? I'm wondering basically what "Mazinger Edition Z: The Impact!" is--apparently its not in continuity but it isn't exactly a remake either.

Also wondering if I should go ahead and watch it or watch the original Mazinger Z anime first. Right now my Mazin experience is limited to Mazinkaiser and the Sega Genesis game Mazin Saga Mutant Fighter (which somehow got a US release), but I did find and read a bit of the Mazinger Z manga.
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Shin Mazinger basically is a remake of the Mazinger Z storyline and it's pretty good. I definitely recommend watching it.

Just don't mind the cliffhanger ending that baits a potential Great Mazinger sequel that never happened. I think the only time Shin Mazinger's storyline ever got fully resolved was in the Super Robot Wars games. (Not to mention you had a few titles, specifically the officially English-translated VXT series, that decided to connect Shin Mazinger directly to Mazinger Zero VS Great General of Darkness).
 
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vern said:
It seems to be getting a bit out of hand recently, I've even seen some people recently call Detective Conan an Isekai because they falsely think Conan/Shinichi was reincarnated in a kids body, but that might just be one schizo trying to shill the gook anime airing this season.
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Yeah or calling Dr. Stone an isekai because of the post-apocalypse future, when its still literally the same planet.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
At least for me, anime isekai is a lot more about the power fantasy. Basically starting over with looks/abilities of a gigachad after being a loser IRL.
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I kinda disagree but I see where your coming from.
On paper isekai just means "other world" but in practice most come of exactly what you described. As such I think I can name a few series that are technically isekai but are often overlooked or people don't consider them ones, as well as a lot that are just normal fantasy series that feel like generic isekai in everything but name (anything that involves being kicked out of a party or trying to get revenge on one is usually a sure bet).

This kind of reminds me about a argument I saw around AoT recently over whether or not it's a mecha series where the titans are just organic mecha, which for the record I don't really have a position on cause I haven't watched it since the first season came out 10 years ago, I just noticed a few people getting heated for and against it.
 
Which version of lain should i watch dubbed or subbed since i ve heard that the dub fits the bizaare feel of th
 
vern said:
It seems to be getting a bit out of hand recently, I've even seen some people recently call Detective Conan an Isekai because they falsely think Conan/Shinichi was reincarnated in a kids body, but that might just be one schizo trying to shill the gook anime airing this season.
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People also use it to describe "any fantasy or fiction I consider lowbrow" nowadays.
Not just reincarnation but rpg fantasy, vrmmo, even just weird romcoms.
Imo the word means "another world." Either there's another world or its not an isekai. It's as silly as calling any sci-fi that doesn't meet standard "mecha".
Writing conventions, call it narou kei or amateur/hobby fiction, that's what it actually is.
 
Mango Cobra said:
Has anyone watched Yona of the Dawn?
I'm a big fan of it, but I'm wondering what the rest of the kiwis who watch anime think of it.
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I watched half of it. It couldn't hold my attention. MC became annoying. Decent medieval usurpation and hero's journey anime though.
 
Car Won't Crank said:
I watched half of it. It couldn't hold my attention. MC became annoying. Decent medieval usurpation and hero's journey anime though.
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She gets much, much better as the story goes on. Can't expect the spoiled princess to, ya know, act like a Chadette immediately after all.
 
Mango Cobra said:
She gets much, much better as the story goes on. Can't expect the spoiled princess to, ya know, act like a Chadette immediately after all.
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I may give it a go when really bored. I still want to watch The Beast Player Erin, which is another really good older one.
 
I was going to be cheeky and write some comment on how Oshi no ko is actually an isekai cause the world of showbiz is a whole new world compared to that of a countryside doctor but the truth is that in my mind I did just automatically use the word isekai for reincarnation and later realised my mistake.
 
Vapewizard said:
I was going to be cheeky and write some comment on how Oshi no ko is actually an isekai cause the world of showbiz is a whole new world compared to that of a countryside doctor but the truth is that in my mind I did just automatically use the word isekai for reincarnation and later realised my mistake.
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Some people do call reincarnation & rebirth stories as "native isekai" so it's not new.
 
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vern said:
I kinda disagree but I see where your coming from.
On paper isekai just means "other world" but in practice most come of exactly what you described. As such I think I can name a few series that are technically isekai but are often overlooked or people don't consider them ones, as well as a lot that are just normal fantasy series that feel like generic isekai in everything but name (anything that involves being kicked out of a party or trying to get revenge on one is usually a sure bet).

This kind of reminds me about a argument I saw around AoT recently over whether or not it's a mecha series where the titans are just organic mecha, which for the record I don't really have a position on cause I haven't watched it since the first season came out 10 years ago, I just noticed a few people getting heated for and against it.
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Putting what I said earlier more eloquently, one vital part of isekai as a genre is "a new beginning". It's not just the "going into a new world" aspect that's a writing trope older than paper, it's having a leg up to advance beyond the normal people in that new setting (even if those are simply higher social status/body build/self confidence) so old mistakes will not be repeated.

Even the part of "new world" in isekai isn't really that correct that much, it's pretty common the settings is based on games the protagonists have already played so nothing is new to them and they game their knowledge.
 
Imo when it comes to calling something a certain term, I think about it from the pov for someone that wants to read that thing.
Imagine if while trying to find isekai someone recommends Oshi no Ko or Please Save My Earth. It just wouldn't make sense, would it? Even something like Goblin Slayer, Max Defense, or Chillin' in my Thirties, I'd still feel a bit ripped off if what I wanted was isekai.

I'd say Isekai Quartet basically spells it out with what series it chose.
 
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Autistically, I kinda hate the term "isekai." maybe this is just a western fandom thing but it feels like they're trying to claim this kind of story is a whole new thing when stories about people being transported to other worlds have been being done since the Bible. Chronicles of Narnia, John Carter of Mars, Andre Norton's Witch World are all basically isekai when you get right down to it.

At the same time it also feels like applying a label is also forcing a certain set of expectations on the genre. Like I've heard about "Truck-kun." Okay, so is Magic Knight Rayearth an isekai, or does it not count because the girls don't die, they just get magically summoned to another world? How about the third episode (and only the third episode) of Devil Hunter Yohko? What about that one Tenchi Muyo movie where that girl creates a world where she and Tenchi lead a perfect life together but Tenchi keeps having flashes of realization and remembering Ryoko?

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Hey, speaking of being transported to other worlds... how exactly does one create a torrent and upload it to torrent sites? Also is anyone but me having issues with nyaa and solidtorrents right now? Because neither is letting me create an account (or in nyaa's case, log in to my existing one).

Not gonna say what, exactly, I planned to upload for obvious reasons.... but its an anime whose DVD sets are out of print, there's no re-release, and the final volume was so rare it was thought to be vaporware. Also its a classic mecha anime.
 
skykiii said:
Like I've heard about "Truck-kun." Okay, so is Magic Knight Rayearth an isekai, or does it not count because the girls don't die, they just get magically summoned to another world?
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Do you not know how Shield Hero or ReZero start? Hell, last season had a summoning isekai airing, Campfire Cooking.

Frankly, this might just be an issue with people that have never watched more than one or two isekai putting way too much thought into it. Just take it the same way as mecha.
 
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