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[Wnrite]

The anime cheese of Spy X Family is killing me and turning me off of the series. The brother and the newest episode are fuckin trash.

Seeing people talk about Full Metal, a buddy of mine asked which version he should watch. Told him for more action and closer plot to the manga, watch new. For more dramatic and slower paced story, watch the 2003 version.
It's telling that any time someone posts about FMA, it's usually the 2003 version they talk about.

 

[Oddjob OTP]

Seeing people talk about Full Metal, a buddy of mine asked which version he should watch. Told him for more action and closer plot to the manga, watch new. For more dramatic and slower paced story, watch the 2003 version.
It's telling that any time someone posts about FMA, it's usually the 2003 version they talk about.

I find the exact opposite, people love Brotherhood a lot and think the 2003 anime is 6/10. Personally I find Father to be a much more interesting villain then Hohenheim's goth lolita ex even if I admit that the Anime only origin of the homunculus' adds a lot of weight to them the manga/brotherhood version lacks.

 

[KEKMUHLORD]

So, has anyone looked at Studio MAPPA’s anime release schedule coming up from the end of the year into 2023?

They have “Chainsaw Man” coming in 2022.

Then in 2023 they have:

“Attack on Titan final Season part 3” (lol 3 parts really?)

“Jujutsu Kaisen Season 2”

“Hells Paradise”

and lastly “Vinland Saga season 2”

Probably one of the most crazy studio release schedules I have seen in awhile. Especially with how many hyped manga adaptations they are doing. Hope they can keep up the quality. Especially for Chainsaw Man and Hells Paradise.

 

[Idiot Asshole]

The anime cheese of Spy X Family is killing me and turning me off of the series. The brother and the newest episode are fuckin trash.

Seeing people talk about Full Metal, a buddy of mine asked which version he should watch. Told him for more action and closer plot to the manga, watch new. For more dramatic and slower paced story, watch the 2003 version.
It's telling that any time someone posts about FMA, it's usually the 2003 version they talk about.

I find the exact opposite, people love Brotherhood a lot and think the 2003 anime is 6/10. Personally I find Father to be a much more interesting villain then Hohenheim's goth lolita ex even if I admit that the Anime only origin of the homunculus' adds a lot of weight to them the manga/brotherhood version lacks.

Gonna be the boring middle grounder here but I love both of them for what they each bring to the table. I've never been able to pick one over the other. Having said that though I massively prefer 03's OPs to Brotherhoods, dunno if that's an unpopular opinion or what.
I don't really see either get talked about more than the other, older fans talk about 03 and zoom zooms probably have only ever watched Brotherhood so I guess it depends where on the Internet you go.

Anyway I went and watched Jubei-chan The Ninja Girl from 1999 recently, I feel jiffed because I thought I was going into an action-packed ninja show and got a silly magical girl comedy instead. I still liked it (and its 2004 sequel series) though.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

I find the exact opposite, people love Brotherhood a lot and think the 2003 anime is 6/10. Personally I find Father to be a much more interesting villain then Hohenheim's goth lolita ex even if I admit that the Anime only origin of the homunculus' adds a lot of weight to them the manga/brotherhood version lacks.

Personally some of 2003’s ideas are interesting though it makes certain homunculi feel developed.

Personally I prefer Brotherhood since I enjoyed the story and characters more but 2003 was really good in like it’s first half except for like the anime original episodes. Second half is a bit mixed like there were some good ideas but a lot of the villains were pretty cringeworthy except for Scar, Gluttony, Lust, and Bradley (Though the Manga/Brotherhood Bradley is 10x better)

 

[Wnrite]

I find the exact opposite, people love Brotherhood a lot and think the 2003 anime is 6/10. Personally I find Father to be a much more interesting villain then Hohenheim's goth lolita ex even if I admit that the Anime only origin of the homunculus' adds a lot of weight to them the manga/brotherhood version lacks.

Maybe it's just nastolgia, but I felt that the old series generally had more buildup and because they were trying to fit so much more into the series with Brotherhood, things felt extremely fast paced in comparison.

 

[KEKMUHLORD]

Personally some of 2003’s ideas are interesting though it makes certain homunculi feel developed.

Personally I prefer Brotherhood since I enjoyed the story and characters more but 2003 was really good in like it’s first half except for like the anime original episodes. Second half is a bit mixed like there were some good ideas but a lot of the villains were pretty cringeworthy except for Scar, Gluttony, Lust, and Bradley (Though the Manga/Brotherhood Bradley is 10x better)

Yeah, that is the the problem with FMA 2003 for me as well. The further and further they got away from the source material the more mixed it became. So, second half of FMA 2003 can be a bit rough. Which is not their fault since they ran out of source material and still do a pretty good job. Which is incredibly rare.

It just will never match what the author of FMA Hiromu Arakawa wrote. I will take it to my grave FMA is the most complete Shounen manga ever written. Everything just works in the story and builds to a great final arc and payoff. To the point where you do not need anymore. You are satisfied with how everything ended and where everyone ended up.

All in all I always recommend Brotherhood over FMA 2003. But, I always tell people to check out FMA 2003 after. Cause it is a great what if/alternate story.

 

[Gravityqueen4life]

Just saw the end of FLCL after watching it over a week or two. Really fun show.
I know enough to avoid the sequels that just came out.

Spoiler

Disappointed that the BPD headcase didn't get smacked over the head like she royally deserved but at least Naota isn't stupid enough to go with her.
Kind of an inconclusive ending really, everybody moves away. I hear the same thing happens in the original Evangeleon ending but I know enough to steer clear of *that* mess.

Anyway, I think I'll read the manga (If it's translated) because I accidentally read a spoiler for it and it sounds interesting.

i still think haruko is a pretty good villain all things considered.

Spoiler: spoiler

its pretty messed up too emotionally and sexually manipulate a young boy too free the guy she's in love with. only to find out she dosent love him as a person and just wants the statues and power that he holds.

Spoiler: later season spoiler

i still think she's a pretty good villain in the later seasons but it was clear the creators were treating her more as Haruko the lol so random meme character instead of haruko, the abusive manipulating batshit insane BPD women.

she was indeed every teenage boys first crush.

 

[Oddjob OTP]

Maybe it's just nastolgia, but I felt that the old series generally had more buildup and because they were trying to fit so much more into the series with Brotherhood, things felt extremely fast paced in comparison.

I'd concede that 2003 first half works better because it has more room to breath (although some of the arcs are dwelled on more then they need to be, Rose's arc is boring and should have been passed over more quickly like Brotherhood) but yeah, once it has to generate it's own canon quality drops a lot. Been a long time since I watched it but I recall an above average amount of post-Evangelion depressed moping screen time and NOT dwelling on your dead mom for like 10 episodes is a plus in my book.

 

[Registration]

Maybe it's just nastolgia, but I felt that the old series generally had more buildup and because they were trying to fit so much more into the series with Brotherhood, things felt extremely fast paced in comparison.

It was nostalgia for me since I watched the 03 back in '06 and years later, already an adult I went and did read the manga and thought it was worse than 03. But it wasn't nostalgia anymore when I went and watched last year the 03 series and the movies and holy shit, is way fucking better with more soul.
Father is such a lame villain, even more when the whole motivation of the brothers should apply to himself but doesn't because he is the bad guy lol.
Also the fact that in the 03 series, their actions have many consequences and their destination isn't saved because good guys, the end being so much bittersweet feels way more grounded and genuine with Ed and Al growing up in our world and Ed growing up to have a family of his own ans watching his younger brother die.
And I just finished watching the last inuyasha movie after almost 2 decades.

The only thing missing now is the last season of yashahime

 

[The Fair Lady]

What makes FMA '03 so great for me is the characterization, especially the homunculi's. I love how every single one of them was portrayed, they embodied their sins perfectly which is something that a lot of mangahood stans seem to have trouble understanding. I couldn't tell you how many times I've seen 03!Wrath written off as just being an annoying kid with mommy issues when everything about him and the way he acts makes sense given his backstory. They all just felt so flat in the manga (with the exception of Envy) and it really disappointed me. I didn't find Father that interesting either.

People like to say that the 2003 series is too melodramatic and depressing, which is fair, but I honestly prefer its more serious tone over Brotherhood's fast-paced action and comedy. It really nails in how your past actions can come back to haunt you, quite literally, and places a huge emphasis on sacrifice and personal growth. I wish I could've gotten into Brotherhood and the manga; I tried, but I just couldn't.

 

[Registration]

FMA is the most complete Shounen manga ever written.

I disagree strongly. Actually I think the manga is just the most balanced one, it is really competent, but for me it isn't the most complete or even the most interesting.
This place will always be Shaman King and this is even kinda wrong since there are sequels and sidestories still ongoing but I love it so much that I still enjoy them. Even with the whole new generation characters that build on the life of previous characters (such shaman king move).

And his themes and characterization is so expansive that it uses characters from all his previous works, with different perspectives and so on.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Yeah, that is the the problem with FMA 2003 for me as well. The further and further they got away from the source material the more mixed it became. So, second half of FMA 2003 can be a bit rough. Which is not their fault since they ran out of source material and still do a pretty good job. Which is incredibly rare.

It just will never match what the author of FMA Hiromu Arakawa wrote. I will take it to my grave FMA is the most complete Shounen manga ever written. Everything just works in the story and builds to a great final arc and payoff. To the point where you do not need anymore. You are satisfied with how everything ended and where everyone ended up.

All in all I always recommend Brotherhood over FMA 2003. But, I always tell people to check out FMA 2003 after. Cause it is a great what if/alternate story.

Yeah, 2003 is still worth checking out since it has its own unique spin even if I disagreed with it, like for every moment like the stupid terminator that appeared in the last few episodes, there's always Lust's character arc which is honestly top tier and I also like how they take Scar in the show (like he's great in both versions).

Though I'd probably recommend the manga more since it's the complete package, since there was a lot of dark material the manga had that 2003 or Brotherhood never touched upon.

 

[Wnrite]

The only thing missing now is the last season of yashahime

Is it bad that I won't give the show a chance purely based on the fact that they locked away half (or more) of the main cast in the first episode? All I wanted was a story about Inuyasha and Kagome raising their kid.

 

[Registration]

Is it bad that I won't give the show a chance purely based on the fact that they locked away half (or more) of the main cast in the first episode? All I wanted was a story about Inuyasha and Kagome raising their kid.

You know, I just watched the fourth movie and Inuyasha is... kinda irritating? His daughter is my favorite character of the sequel series so it is strange to see. Also Miroku appears in the series if you want old characters.
I have no idea about what the second season is about tho. So I dunno if they appear or not. But overall after the first season I just think it is almost the same level than the original series (yeah, kinda repetitive, but the character dynamics are kinda new because new characters)
Inuyasha is 00's mediocre so I doubt this will offend anyone other than shippers.

 

[King Dead]

Anyway I went and watched Jubei-chan The Ninja Girl from 1999 recently, I feel jiffed because I thought I was going into an action-packed ninja show and got a silly magical girl comedy instead. I still liked it (and its 2004 sequel series) though.

Jubei is one of my favorite series I've ever watched. Both seasons are excellent comedies that parody a lot of ninja and magical girl tropes yet still manage to deliver a satisfying story along the way. So many great running gags too, from Jubei's constant indifference to her supposed destiny, to characters getting lost in that damn bamboo forest seconds after going in. The second season even manages to make early digital coloring look good; it's not quite as good as the traditional animation of the first season, but much better than most of the digital series of the time. Highly recommend to those that haven't watched it.

 

[Drillul]

Does anyone know of a website that compiles anime ratings from the top anime review websites?

 

[Trombonista]

So, has anyone looked at Studio MAPPA’s anime release schedule coming up from the end of the year into 2023?

They have “Chainsaw Man” coming in 2022.

Then in 2023 they have:

“Attack on Titan final Season part 3” (lol 3 parts really?)

“Jujutsu Kaisen Season 2”

“Hells Paradise”

and lastly “Vinland Saga season 2”

Probably one of the most crazy studio release schedules I have seen in awhile. Especially with how many hyped manga adaptations they are doing. Hope they can keep up the quality. Especially for Chainsaw Man and Hells Paradise.

Aren't they also making a Zombieland Saga movie?

 

[KEKMUHLORD]

Aren't they also making a Zombieland Saga movie?

You are correct! I forgot to post the movies they will also be releasing.

All 3 movies are to be announced release dates.

"Yuri!!!! On Ice the Movie: Ice Adolescence"

"Alice and Therese's Illusion Factroy" (No idea what this is or what it is about. It is an original work)

And "Zombie Land Saga the Movie".

 

[Shlomo Goldbergstein]

trailer and poster for the fourth G-Reco movie, we going to venus boisss

Have the G-Reco movies been good so far? It seems like they're going to end up being a similar length in total to the TV series so I don't really get the point of them tbh.

I've never understood why the show got targeted for such harsh criticism, yeah it moves fast but that's better than being bloated with filler. The writing style is obviously very different to the typical modern popular fare but that's only a good thing imo - I remember trying to watch the first season of Attack On Titan and being shocked at how much padding, repetition, recap foootage etc. it was filled with, but apparently that's the way the current anime audience like it. Really though, if someone claims to enjoy a show like Zeta Gundam they have no right to sneer at G-Reco, as both have the same primary issue of garbled plot exposition. Somehow though Zeta enjoys a glowing reputation while G-Reco is a punchline, makes you wonder whether people are actually watching and appreciating these shows or just mindlessly parroting memethink to fit in.