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Secret Asshole said:
Yup, its a prequel in its own continuity but follows similar story beats. They do this constantly with GoitS. You have to take Arise in a vaccum. It also puts people off, because while the Major looks different, EVERYBODY else looks the same. When you're watching, if you've watched a ton of GoitS, there's going to be major cognitive dissonance happening. So when she's being cold and distrusting to the chief of Section 9 you're like 'Why is she...oh they just met.'

'Why is Bato shooting at...oh, they're not on the same team yet.'

So you have to basically completely disconnect yourself from everything you've seen and take it in as something wholly new. Which is pretty difficult. That combined with the awful TV edit is why some people really just don't like it. I enjoyed it, but they're never going to continue it.
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Yeah, I don't know why they feel like almost every new piece of media in GITS has to be a new continuity, first there was the manga, then the movies, then the TV series, then the Prequel, all seperate continuities.

But is that changing with this Netflix series, isn't it supposed to be a follow up to the two seasons of Stand Alone Complex?
 
Dom Cruise said:
Yeah, I don't know why they feel like almost every new piece of media in GITS has to be a new continuity, first there was the manga, then the movies, then the TV series, then the Prequel, all seperate continuities.

But is that changing with this Netflix series, isn't it supposed to be a follow up to the two seasons of Stand Alone Complex?
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Yes, but its a 15 fucking year time jump, so you may as well call it a soft reboot at this point.

EDIT: This just makes me sad:

Netflix Twitter Teaser Pic of the Major:
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What we actually are getting:
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Like what in the literal fuck is wrong with you? The guy's character designs are amazing and you just shit them the fuck up by turning it into a late PS2 game with mocap in some studio somewhere. You probably spent more money on this than if you just did traditional animation. Is it so hard to do? Ugh. Also how do you fuck up making the 3D model look less Japanese than the fucking art you paid for? Are they just intentionally pissing people off now?
 
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Dom Cruise said:
Yes, Bones was one of the best studios in the 2000s (what are they up to now? I actually can't think of anything since Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood, do they do MHA?)
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Yes, Bones does animate MHA, they also did Mob Psycho 100.

Secret Asshole said:
Yes, but its a 15 fucking year time jump, so you may as well call it a soft reboot at this point.

EDIT: This just makes me sad:

Netflix Twitter Teaser Pic of the Major:
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What we actually are getting:
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Like what in the literal fuck is wrong with you? The guy's character designs are amazing and you just shit them the fuck up by turning it into a late PS2 game with mocap in some studio somewhere. You probably spent more money on this than if you just did traditional animation. Is it so hard to do? Ugh. Also how do you fuck up making the 3D model look less Japanese than the fucking art you paid for? Are they just intentionally pissing people off now?
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Yeesh, I know Japan's still trying to catch up in the CG world, but this seriously looks no better than the 2007 Appleseed sequel.

Though to be fair, most Netflix CG shows look like crap to begin with, so this being no different isn't that surprising.
 
Here's a question I've always wondered about GITS.

Doe the Major actually have.... a vagina?
 
Dom Cruise said:
JC Staff also put out some good looking shows, including R.O.D The TV and though it was technically a different studio, the Read or Die OVA still looks good too.
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It's not from either of the studios who animated Read Or Die but Kamichu!, from the same writer, director, and most of the same creative team as R.O.D. but produced over at Brain's Base studio for Aniplex, is from 2006 and the digital colours still hold up well.

I wish Kamichu could get a domestic re-release on Blu-Ray because the old Geneon DVDs have some noticeable compression artifacts when I watch them on a modern screen but that's not the fault of the animation process.
 
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Dom Cruise said:
Yeah, I don't know why they feel like almost every new piece of media in GITS has to be a new continuity, first there was the manga, then the movies, then the TV series, then the Prequel, all seperate continuities.

But is that changing with this Netflix series, isn't it supposed to be a follow up to the two seasons of Stand Alone Complex?
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The 1995 film had a sequel in 2004 that focused on Batou (Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence)

Stand Alone Complex actually had a sequel movie-length OVA called Solid State Society, set after 2nd Gig.

Dom Cruise said:
Here's a question I've always wondered about GITS.

Doe the Major actually have.... a vagina?
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In the manga, she's portrayed as bisexual and flirtatious

There was also that weird scene in an episode SAC where she offered to put out for a teen boy who was on the run from some criminals, but I'd rather forget that particular little tidbit ever happened.
 
Syaoran Li said:
The 1995 film had a sequel in 2004 that focused on Batou (Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence)

Stand Alone Complex actually had a sequel movie-length OVA called Solid State Society, set after 2nd Gig.



In the manga, she's portrayed as bisexual and flirtatious

There was also that weird scene in an episode SAC where she offered to put out for a teen boy who was on the run from some criminals, but I'd rather forget that particular little tidbit ever happened.
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I always thought that scene was just her messing with him
 
Syaoran Li said:
The 1995 film had a sequel in 2004 that focused on Batou (Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence)

Stand Alone Complex actually had a sequel movie-length OVA called Solid State Society, set after 2nd Gig.



In the manga, she's portrayed as bisexual and flirtatious

There was also that weird scene in an episode SAC where she offered to put out for a teen boy who was on the run from some criminals, but I'd rather forget that particular little tidbit ever happened.
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Yes, I saw both Innocence and Solid State Society.

How I saw Solid State Society was the Sci Fi Channel's airing and what I remember the most is they fucked up the aspect ratio, I guess it was meant to be widescreen but they aired it 4:3 and everyone looked squished in.

That was always pissed me off and makes me wish Adult Swim had aired it instead.
 
They need another female character or two alongside the Major imo.

Innocence gets a bad rep. I assume its because Mokoto doesn't appear until the movie is practically over.

Anyway I started the Slayers film/ova series. Fun but the "motion picture" doesn't really explain what's going on
 
just finished watching the promised neverland.i liked how the three main characters contrasted each other.
 
Been feeling sort of a weird nostalgia for the Urotsukidoji OVA's from the 90's and it sort of gave me an idea.

What if they did a remake of Urotsukidoji (and do it right, unlike the attempt from the early 2000's that sort of aped Bible Black) but instead of remaking it as a full-blown hardcore hentai, do it as a grimdark ecchi ONA so you can reach a wider audience and just go full 90's-tier edge with both the remake itself and the advertising campaign around it.

Releasing it as a direct-to-streaming/direct-to-DVD release would allow you to include all the gore and nudity needed to be true to the spirit of edgy VHS-era OVA's

Take a page from Joker's unexpected success and capitalize on the inevitable baby tantrums from Woke Twitter for the marketing.

Hell, if I were in charge of a dub, I'd pull a reverse Marchi and include lines that take potshots at Me Too/Cancel Culture, Antifa, and other SJW sacred cows. Think of it like a TV-MA version of the Digimon Adventure dub where the overall dub has a degree of integrity overall, but they have a few gag dialogue moments here and there. Maybe you could have one of the makai demons be disguised as a woman with brightly colored hair and glasses at first, and her voice in the dub is done as a spoof of Zoe Quinn (like how Etemon was a parody of Elvis in the Digimon dub)

I'd even cast Vic Mignogna as the main hero Amano Jyaku if he agreed to it and promote him as the the main star if he would be cool with that. We'd be going with the "roguish anti-hero" approach of the anime version for this remake, as opposed to the libertine sociopath Amano Jyaku was in the manga version.

It would never happen in a million years, but damn if it wouldn't be cool.
 
Even as a "eff you" to Funimation and the woke anime journalist crowd, I don't think Vic Mignogna would want to dub something like an Urotsukidoji remake for religious reasons. I mean, I know he was okay with dubbing shows with plot devices that some Christians would consider "occultic" like Fullmetal Alchemist but I suspect Urotsukidoji would just be too over-the-top demonic for Vic to want to touch it.
 
Syaoran Li said:
Hell, if I were in charge of a dub, I'd pull a reverse Marchi and include lines that take potshots at Me Too/Cancel Culture, Antifa, and other SJW sacred cows. Think of it like a TV-MA version of the Digimon Adventure dub where the overall dub has a degree of integrity overall, but they have a few gag dialogue moments here and there. Maybe you could have one of the makai demons be disguised as a woman with brightly colored hair and glasses at first, and her voice in the dub is done as a spoof of Zoe Quinn (like how Etemon was a parody of Elvis in the Digimon dub)
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If you had a problem when Funimation inserted references to Gamergate into their dubs but would have no problem doing something like this, then it's pretty obvious what the real problem is.
 
Steamboat_Bill said:
If you had a problem when Funimation inserted references to Gamergate into their dubs but would have no problem doing something like this, then it's pretty obvious what the real problem is.
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If it were any other anime, I'd agree with you on that. I don't really like shoehorning in current references into an anime dub unless you're specifically trying to pull a Ghost Stories and do a gag dub, which I was kind of implying with this imaginary Urotsukidoji remake.

An ecchi remake of Urotsukidoji could work as a gag dub with a serious subbed version, with both versions being available if I won the lottery somehow and made this happen.

Funimation referencing GamerGate at random was cringe and lame, but it wasn't truly repulsive until we got all those leaks from the Weeb Wars and it turned out that Marchi wasn't doing a "How do you do, fellow weebs?" and was actively insulting the audience instead.

The kind of people that would be insulted by taking potshots at SJW culture are the kind of people who would never watch an Overfiend remake to begin with.

I was thinking more along the lines of Digimon Adventure or the Geneon dub of Lupin III Part 2 where the dub is very much in gag dub territory, but didn't rewrite the plot like Ghost Stories and Samurai Pizza Cats did.
 
I just read a manga called Soil and I really loved it. It's about two detectives who get sent to investigate the disappearance of a family and a police officer in a small town in the countryside. I don't want to spoil too much but be warned that first it gets very dark and then it gets very very weird. If you like crime/mystery/horror or just flat-out weird stories do yourself a favor and check it out.
 
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