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skykiii said:
So.... are there other murder mystery/thriller anime besides Detective Conan and Kindaichi Casefiles? I've kinda gotten tired of the former one's specific quirks and the latter one (as previously mentioned) has a problem of fansubs and manga scanlations being rather iffy, especially for the earlier episodes.
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It's not a murder mystery, but if you enjoy mysteries as a concept/genre, you should 100% watch Hyouka.

For mystery/horror, I'd recommend Mononoke.
 
skykiii said:
I didn't realize someone made a movie of LSD Dream Emulator....
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It was a 13-episode series back in 2007 that was a spin-off of the last part of a prior horror anthology series, with the original short story remade in a 1920s setting for the final arc of the show.
 
Thomas Talus said:
It was a 13-episode series back in 2007 that was a spin-off of the last part of a prior horror anthology series, with the original short story remade in a 1920s setting for the final arc of the show.
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What's the name of the horror anthology series?
 
Does anyone know how old shows like Serial Experiments Lain, Azumanga Daioh and Black Lagoon got so popular with zoomers?

Most 00s anime is forgotten, even if it was popular at the time, but then you have Azumanga and Black Lagoon, which are zoomer favorites despite them shunning most anime from that decade, how did that start?

A couple of other random ones from the 90s that I see referenced often are Golden Boy and Gunsmith Cats.

Azumanga's popularity might have something to do with it's influence on early meme culture and it still has that meme "stickiness" to it, but while these are all good animes, it's not clear to me why they get remembered when other stuff that's just as good doesn't.

And I'm not talking about evergreen franchises like DBZ, Naruto, JoJo, Eva etc, these are all things that have been over with for years or even decades, so how did they wind up being remembered and other things forgotten?
 
Dom Cruise said:
Does anyone know how old shows like Serial Experiments Lain, Azumanga Daioh and Black Lagoon got so popular with zoomers?

Most 00s anime is forgotten, even if it was popular at the time, but then you have Azumanga and Black Lagoon, which are zoomer favorites despite them shunning most anime from that decade, how did that start?

A couple of other random ones from the 90s that I see referenced often are Golden Boy and Gunsmith Cats.

Azumanga's popularity might have something to do with it's influence on early meme culture and it still has that meme "stickiness" to it, but while these are all good animes, it's not clear to me why they get remembered when other stuff that's just as good doesn't.

And I'm not talking about evergreen franchises like DBZ, Naruto, JoJo, Eva etc, these are all things that have been over with for years or even decades, so how did they wind up being remembered and other things forgotten?
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I mean, Black Lagoon is easy to explain hot chicks, guns, feeling like somethin Tarantino or Rodriguez would make, over the top action.
 
Dom Cruise said:
Does anyone know how old shows like Serial Experiments Lain, Azumanga Daioh and Black Lagoon got so popular with zoomers?

Most 00s anime is forgotten, even if it was popular at the time, but then you have Azumanga and Black Lagoon, which are zoomer favorites despite them shunning most anime from that decade, how did that start?

A couple of other random ones from the 90s that I see referenced often are Golden Boy and Gunsmith Cats.

Azumanga's popularity might have something to do with it's influence on early meme culture and it still has that meme "stickiness" to it, but while these are all good animes, it's not clear to me why they get remembered when other stuff that's just as good doesn't.

And I'm not talking about evergreen franchises like DBZ, Naruto, JoJo, Eva etc, these are all things that have been over with for years or even decades, so how did they wind up being remembered and other things forgotten?
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Maybe its because they have a neat retro visual appeal without the cringe of being too ""anime"".
 
The tired cat said:
I mean, Black Lagoon is easy to explain hot chicks, guns, feeling like somethin Tarantino or Rodriguez would make, over the top action.
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It's an awesome show with obvious appeal, but there's a lot of cool shows from around that time that are forgotten, why does Black Lagoon buck the trend?

Part of this could be simply distribution, I saw the boxset of Black Lagoon at Target, Gunsmith Cats got a nice blu ray in 2018, if this stuff is more easily available that can explain why it gets a second wind as opposed to shows long out of print.

But is Black Lagoon popular because you can buy it at Target or is it at Target because it's popular online? Same thing with the Gunsmith Cats BD, did it introduce it to a new generation or did it get a release because of it's following?

And then there's Azumanga which iirc has been out of print since 2016 and iirc has not been released in the US in HD at all, I'm also pretty sure Lain has not seen an official release in forever (though I could be wrong), these seem like shows that stuck around because of memes and fans downloading them, I'm also pretty sure Golden Boy has not has an official release in forever.

Another odd thing about Black Lagoon is it seems like it's more successful now than when it was new, why the delayed response? Maybe it could have saved Geneon, but it took another decade and change to actually find a following.

Don't get me wrong, Black Lagoon is one of my favorites and I'm glad one of my favorites from around that time is well remembered, it's just too bad it hasn't happened with more shows.

Atatata said:
Maybe its because they have a neat retro visual appeal without the cringe of being too ""anime"".
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Like I said they all have a kind of meme "stickiness" to them, instantly recognizable characters, or other aspects that just lend themselves to the modern social media age.

Revy stands out among anime girls because of her crass, badass attitude and she's not even technically Japanese at all but Chinese, she has that "girlboss" energy thing going on that has obvious appeal to people today.

Lain is a depressed girl who spends all her time on a computer, a perfect "literally me" character.

Azumanga has always been heavily memeable.


But then you have something like Maria Holic, it's not out of print, it just recently had a BD release in NA, it's un-PC handling of LGBT themes and general bitchy sense of humor seems prime for modern meme culture, but yet, silence... (it was fairly popular at the time it was airing, but has been forgotten ever since)

Maria Holic's original manga fyi infamously triggered a lesbian yuri blogger to tears, it's a funny series that deserves to be rediscovered.
 
Dom Cruise said:
But then you have something like Maria Holic, it's not out of print, it just recently had a BD release in NA, it's un-PC handling of LGBT themes and general bitchy sense of humor seems prime for modern meme culture, but yet, silence... (it was fairly popular at the time it was airing, but has been forgotten ever since)

Maria Holic's original manga fyi infamously triggered a lesbian yuri blogger to tears, it's a funny series that deserves to be rediscovered.
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It's probably because of that. It's unPC but also LGBT, it has very anime things like crossdressing and aged yuri mixed with Japanese humor which is considered tasteless on good days and is directed by Shaft which is very artsy fartsy anime.

Basically, it's not west friendly enough.
 
Dom Cruise said:
Most 00s anime is forgotten, even if it was popular at the time, but then you have Azumanga and Black Lagoon, which are zoomer favorites despite them shunning most anime from that decade, how did that start?
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I can't say anything about Black Lagoon because I've never seen it but Azumanga Daioh is fairly timeless without making too many references to contemporary pop culture or technology that would make the show feel too dated, provided Zoomers don't mind that the show is still in 4:3 aspect ratio.
 
Atatata said:
It's probably because of that. It's unPC but also LGBT, it has very anime things like crossdressing and aged yuri mixed with Japanese humor which is considered tasteless on good days and is directed by Shaft which is very artsy fartsy anime.

Basically, it's not west friendly enough.
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Some of the humor seems west friendly though, it even has a reference to the "David Caruso putting on his sunglasses" meme (not the freshest meme today admittedly, but funny to see in 2011)

It's a little artsy fartsy and esoteric, but something about it's contrast of flowery shojo and yuri tropes with the mean spirited humor is really funny to me, plus like the best spoofs you don't have to really be familiar with what's it's spoofing to enjoy it.
 
I always thought Lucky Star was better than Azumanga Daioh to be honest.

Admittedly, I recall only watching Azumanga because people said it was like Lucky Star... but I got bored after two episodes.
 
Dom Cruise said:
It's an awesome show with obvious appeal, but there's a lot of cool shows from around that time that are forgotten, why does Black Lagoon buck the trend?

Part of this could be simply distribution, I saw the boxset of Black Lagoon at Target, Gunsmith Cats got a nice blu ray in 2018, if this stuff is more easily available that can explain why it gets a second wind as opposed to shows long out of print.

But is Black Lagoon popular because you can buy it at Target or is it at Target because it's popular online? Same thing with the Gunsmith Cats BD, did it introduce it to a new generation or did it get a release because of it's following?

And then there's Azumanga which iirc has been out of print since 2016 and iirc has not been released in the US in HD at all, I'm also pretty sure Lain has not seen an official release in forever (though I could be wrong), these seem like shows that stuck around because of memes and fans downloading them, I'm also pretty sure Golden Boy has not has an official release in forever.

Another odd thing about Black Lagoon is it seems like it's more successful now than when it was new, why the delayed response? Maybe it could have saved Geneon, but it took another decade and change to actually find a following.

Don't get me wrong, Black Lagoon is one of my favorites and I'm glad one of my favorites from around that time is well remembered, it's just too bad it hasn't happened with more shows.


Like I said they all have a kind of meme "stickiness" to them, instantly recognizable characters, or other aspects that just lend themselves to the modern social media age.

Revy stands out among anime girls because of her crass, badass attitude and she's not even technically Japanese at all but Chinese, she has that "girlboss" energy thing going on that has obvious appeal to people today.

Lain is a depressed girl who spends all her time on a computer, a perfect "literally me" character.

Azumanga has always been heavily memeable.


But then you have something like Maria Holic, it's not out of print, it just recently had a BD release in NA, it's un-PC handling of LGBT themes and general bitchy sense of humor seems prime for modern meme culture, but yet, silence... (it was fairly popular at the time it was airing, but has been forgotten ever since)

Maria Holic's original manga fyi infamously triggered a lesbian yuri blogger to tears, it's a funny series that deserves to be rediscovered.
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Zoomer here: it's anitubers and what we remember. I still remember yugioh and sonic x from 4kids. Anitubers always talk about shows like lain and black lagoon, so they got popular again. It's cringe but its the truth. And yes Lain has a modern BD release, I've held it in my hand in a weeb store days ago.
 
Dom Cruise said:
Does anyone know how old shows like Serial Experiments Lain, Azumanga Daioh and Black Lagoon got so popular with zoomers?
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Cultural osmosis must've finally caught up to them that they are getting urges to watch the source of whatever memes they come across, is my guess.

Could also be that they may be getting tired of the isekai swamp that they're turning to the past for something, anything worthwhile, and realizing there's something appealing to these 20-year-old anime. Baby steps.
 
To go back to the people talking about S;G/Science Adventure a few pages back, Steins;Gate: My Darling's Embrace is a ton of fun. It's a spinoff that takes place in worldlines with 3 to 3.6% divergence. I haven't finished it yet but what I've read of it I've really enjoyed. In particular Moeka gets the chance to be the trash princess best girl she was always meant to be rather than being shoehorned into worst girl

As far as other entries in the Science Adventure series go I don't particularly recommend them if you just want more Steins;Gate. Robotics;Notes is probably the closest I've read in tone and it even has a cute Nae ending (don't worry she's 20) but it's not nearly on the same level as Steins;Gate. Its sequel also features Daru prominently (it's called Robtics;Notes DaSH, DaSH standing for Daru the Supa Hacka) but I haven't read it yet

Chaos;Child is probably the one that came closest as far as how much I enjoyed it goes, but its ending is the antithesis of S;G's ending. Rather than wrapping things up in the most satisfying way of any piece of media I've experienced the protagonist goes to prison for the rest of his life for a crime he didn't commit and all of his friends (aside from the one who actually committed the crime) are probably going to die of cancer in their late 40s to 50s. It is a very satisfyingly mind melting ending however, in the sense that you get a lot of information that forces you to run through the entire game again in your head and a lot of scenes that didn't quite make sense are instantly perfect, like why Mio (another american neuroscience girl from japan) can effortlessly manhandle pretty much every other member of the cast. After the ending I actually wasn't quite sure if I liked it overall but after a couple of days to mentally digest that revelation I came to the conclusion that it's pretty good. If S;G is a 10/10 then it's probably a very strong 8/10 up until the ending, 7 after, but only if you can get past the ending. The ending isn't bad or poorly written or anything, I was just hoping for a near-perfect wrap-up like S;G had and didn't get it. Unlike Okabe Takuru only has one chance to make things right so he does it the first chance he gets. It has a lot of graphic descriptions of death (the plot involves investigating a string of serial suicides) so maybe skip it if that's something you'd be sensitive to

Committee of Zero is working on the Chaos; Love Chu Chu games which are apparently canon sequels so maybe Love Chu Chu!! does something to help with my disappointment in C;C's ending. Also, if you do decide to read any of the VNs definitely grab the Committee of Zero patch if there's one available. C;C had a 'puzzle' that I'm not weeb enough to be able to solve. It's not really a puzzle, you just have a corkboard with a map on it and you're supposed to plot out a bunch of bizarre suicides on the street/building where they occurred and the map is entirely untranslated without the patch so I had to look up where to put everything

I've heard the rest of the Science;Adventure adaptations are pretty bad because they were hoping another one would take off and become a phenomenon like S;G did and none of the rest even came close so they got cut short. Haven't watched them myself so I can't comment personally but I'm very much in the 'The VNs are better' crowd lol, even if S;G is still pretty great in anime form
 
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