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Amazon's Invincible - thoughts?
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verissimus
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Some thoughts I had
1) Those Zombie android things were retardedly OP. You really expect me to believe those things can even pose as a nuisance to either Omni-man and his son? Seriously? There isn't even much of a point for those things being in the story other than as a throwaway plot device to "slow down" Omni-man at the end.
2) Not surprisingly, the high school and "romance" elements in the show were just bad granted I rarely see such things work well in comic book related material.
3) Amber and William were pointless, annoying, and boring.
4) I still can't say I hate Atom Eve, but after reading some of you all's comments here, I do think its safe to say there really wasn't much of a point to her. It doesn't help that her powers don't really make any sense either.
5) The gore was way too excessive relative to the show's desire to being funny but also trying to go for the "feels" especially by the end. That's just too much to swallow with that much death and destruction. It would be like if Jon Snow and Danearys went at it and then Danearys decided to piss off after Jon said something lame.
6) I don't get some people's complaints about the voice-acting although I didn't get the impression that anyone, even JK Simmons, hit the ball out of the park although that isn't to say JK Simmons wasn't good, just that he met my expectations. I think the bigger problem was just that the rest of the characters were a bit underwhelming and the writing and dialogue were hit and miss for certain characters. Or put another way, I highly doubt better VAs would have somehow done the trick for the above naysayers.
7) This first season does feel like they had just way too many characters, some of whom as mentioned already hogged up too much time that they shouldn't have been allowed to have. Some of the storylines as well were also...circumspect to say the least. Take for example Robot's/Rudolph's storyline (or for that matter the Mauler Twins too). It seems they wanted to give you the impression that he was up to no good by breaking the Mauler twins out and taking a blood sample from Rex. Ok, not a big deal so far right? Your interest is a bit piqued because you think this could lead somewhere interesting. Then you later find out the whole point of this subterfuge was so that Robot/Rudolph can get a new body (from the Twins) because ...he has something for Monster Girl which, stupidly, I was hoping could turn out to be something a little bit innocent, but of course we can't have that sort of stuff anymore in this day and age. I mean, really...wth. I'm so tired of this cheap anti-climatic subversive crap. Attitude Era wrestling did a better job at this.
On the other hand, I did find Titan's "plan" (I call bs that he somehow had it all figured out from the get go) to uproot Machine Head and become the boss of whatever-city-they-live-in amusing. My only issue with it looking back is...ok, what exactly was the point of that diversion other than to teach Mark a lesson about trust? Or is it some kind of foreshadowing for the ultimate betrayal he would witness on the part of his father which ironically he should have listened to in this particularly case? I mean, this wasn't really bad, it's just a bit anti-climatic like the other subplot.
1) Those Zombie android things were retardedly OP. You really expect me to believe those things can even pose as a nuisance to either Omni-man and his son? Seriously? There isn't even much of a point for those things being in the story other than as a throwaway plot device to "slow down" Omni-man at the end.
2) Not surprisingly, the high school and "romance" elements in the show were just bad granted I rarely see such things work well in comic book related material.
3) Amber and William were pointless, annoying, and boring.
4) I still can't say I hate Atom Eve, but after reading some of you all's comments here, I do think its safe to say there really wasn't much of a point to her. It doesn't help that her powers don't really make any sense either.
5) The gore was way too excessive relative to the show's desire to being funny but also trying to go for the "feels" especially by the end. That's just too much to swallow with that much death and destruction. It would be like if Jon Snow and Danearys went at it and then Danearys decided to piss off after Jon said something lame.
6) I don't get some people's complaints about the voice-acting although I didn't get the impression that anyone, even JK Simmons, hit the ball out of the park although that isn't to say JK Simmons wasn't good, just that he met my expectations. I think the bigger problem was just that the rest of the characters were a bit underwhelming and the writing and dialogue were hit and miss for certain characters. Or put another way, I highly doubt better VAs would have somehow done the trick for the above naysayers.
7) This first season does feel like they had just way too many characters, some of whom as mentioned already hogged up too much time that they shouldn't have been allowed to have. Some of the storylines as well were also...circumspect to say the least. Take for example Robot's/Rudolph's storyline (or for that matter the Mauler Twins too). It seems they wanted to give you the impression that he was up to no good by breaking the Mauler twins out and taking a blood sample from Rex. Ok, not a big deal so far right? Your interest is a bit piqued because you think this could lead somewhere interesting. Then you later find out the whole point of this subterfuge was so that Robot/Rudolph can get a new body (from the Twins) because ...he has something for Monster Girl which, stupidly, I was hoping could turn out to be something a little bit innocent, but of course we can't have that sort of stuff anymore in this day and age. I mean, really...wth. I'm so tired of this cheap anti-climatic subversive crap. Attitude Era wrestling did a better job at this.
On the other hand, I did find Titan's "plan" (I call bs that he somehow had it all figured out from the get go) to uproot Machine Head and become the boss of whatever-city-they-live-in amusing. My only issue with it looking back is...ok, what exactly was the point of that diversion other than to teach Mark a lesson about trust? Or is it some kind of foreshadowing for the ultimate betrayal he would witness on the part of his father which ironically he should have listened to in this particularly case? I mean, this wasn't really bad, it's just a bit anti-climatic like the other subplot.
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WRONG, NIGGA! YOU FORGOT SPAWN!
Anyway, despite Zoomers not paying attention to the classics... It's pretty good aside from the main character being a complete weenis. That's kind of an issue. I'm tired of the Spider-Man bullshit "Oh man, tonight's my prom and the big bad is doing a thing and I have to make a choice!" Fuck off. So there's that as well.
I don't think it's the greatest thing ever but I'm willing to see where it goes. I know the guy is raped by a woman way later in the comic. Okay, I have that look forward to I guess? Even though he takes it like a bitch and the rape came off like Kirkman living out a fetish of his.
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It's not surprising in the slightest considering modern journalism but it is weird how I don't hear anyone complaining about Titan's episode shows a (somewhat) "heroic" black person annihilating Asians. If he was white I'm sure there would be a few magazines calling for the episode to be censored.
Uranus Pink
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Irrelevant as the Japanese been doing better gore since the late 70ies than almost everything the U.S. has put out including Spawn and Invincible.
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He was still wrong. Do not defend this man.
Uranus Pink
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Sorry I misread your post.
FaramirG
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Having (mostly) read through the comics, we haven't even scratched the surface of weird fetish shit with this comic. Especially with Monster Girl, who
grows a dick in her monster form and impregnates a female alien
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Never heard of this before last week. Saw the memes. Got spoiled instantly. Looked up some clips. Took note of the Genocyber-level ludicrous gore and Omni-Man’s magical scene-stealing powers. Yes, I think this is relevant to my interests.
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I have not seen Invincible so I was planning on reading it first, and as one Kiwi on here said you can read it online, so there’s that,
Still, it doesn’t change the fact that the scalpers on Amazon and the resellers on Barnes & Noble are not wasting their time trying to boost up the sales of Compendium volumes for Invincible due to the popularity of the series. (Says a lot that this was made a decade ago, too.)
Either way, I’ll just read it online until (or if) I have the idea of buying these three volumes later in the year. It will preferably be when the hype decides to die down, but I know that then the prices will still be expensive.
Also, anyone have word that they renewed this series for a second season?
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It has been renewed for a second and third season.
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Its kind of crazy to think that the 8 episodes is only around, like, less than 15 issues of the comics. A lot of the events in the show are expanded out from the comics, since the comics are REALLY condensed.
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It's the leftist dilemma. Their fundamental worldview is shallow so when it comes to writing and challenging characters like OmniMan driven by a goal within the same nihilistic worldview that these Hollywood creative types embrace they need to fall back on "But what about love man?". There's nothing they can really conjure up to make someone like OmniMan reconsider his position except sheer emotivism and would that work on a 10,000 year old space alien? Probably not.
If these people didn't cuck out of thinking where their worldview leads then they wouldn't have the views they do in the first place.
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I mean, if they were going for the emotional appeal working on Omni-Man, it would be a better sell for Omni-Man when Mark asks him about Debbie if Omni-Man said this:
Mark: "What about mom, dad? Do you love her?"
Omni-Man: "Yes, I do. Which is why I promised her that this world will finally find peace before she dies. The best thing that I can give to your mom before her short lifespan gives out is a world that no longer needs to fear hunger, war, or constant threats by supervillains. She will die one day, long before I will, and I've made peace with that. Nothing I can do will change that-I'm a Viltrumite who can live on for thousands of years, and she's a human who will die before she reaches 150. But I can at least make it so that when she dies, she can die happy and watch over us from the heavens, knowing that she leaves behind a world that has found peace before she left."
I'm just so floored that they didn't go this route. Especially when Omni-Man has been selling the idea of the Viltrumites taking over to Mark by saying that they'll get rid of war, poverty, disease, etc., so when Mark brings up the topic of his mom and Omni-Man's wife, Omni-Man can tell Mark that he's doing this FOR HER. That would shake Mark to his core, and create even more drama for Debbie, since she now has to live with the fact that her husband committed all these terrible crimes........because he loves her and wants to give her a world that knows peace. He loves her so much, that it hurts. And that would truly be hard-hitting, compelling drama, because Omni-Man's not doing this because he's a power-obsessed, amoral, apathetic shit, he's doing this because he genuinely loves his family and wants what's best for them.
Instead, they write in that he loves her like a pet, because IMPERIALISM BAD!
Superhero shows are always inconsistent. One moment Superman can fight toe-to-toe with planet-busting gods, and in another moment, Livewire can shock him into unconsciousness. Dragon Ball Z also had Super-Saiyans who were the Chosen Ones of the Saiyan race which brought down the planet-destroying evil space emperor, and one season later, they suddenly get beaten by some cybernetically-enhanced orphans who were kidnapped and operated on by some human scientist.
They don't even explain how those things can hit Omni-Man so hard as to cause him to struggle, as if he was up against the other Guardians of the Globe. All they do is explain that some smart dude made them, and suddenly, they can give a guy who fucking went to town on an entire planet some trouble.
I can understand the Kaiju giving Omni-Man trouble, but those cyborgs? How the hell did they get that strong?
Titan didn't even visit Mark in the hospital. He really came off as rather thankless for someone that the show clearly wanted you to sympathize with. Mark went through hell just to get Machine-Head out of business, even got his ass beat by some furry that would later give other Viltrumites some much-needed competition, and yet all Titan does is bask in his victory without even so much as recognizing that said victory wasn't his, and that he'd have gotten nowhere had it not been for Mark.
But hey, he's from the streets, and he has a family, so we're just supposed to overlook that.
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LOL, someone did a GTA mod. You can bitchslap people as Omni-Man and rip their heads off and throw them at people and shit.
There is such an amazing story that is dying to get out, but is stuck behind this mediocre early 2010's wannabe watchmen wank off. The author clearly doesn't even get what made Watchmen work. Actually fuck it no one who badly try to ape watchmen knew how or why it worked.
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Exactly. It's the potential for great stories that attracts people to it, because the actual story was obviously written on the fly. Omni-Man was rather bad at his job of subverting Earth. There were so many ways he could have gotten the Earthlings to accept Virtumite rule, yet despite being on the planet for 17 years as the strongest man on it, he didn't do so. The least I would have done in his place is convince my wife and kid that the Viltrumites can make the world so much better if they were in charge.
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That's probably because that hospital was supposed to be in the Pentagon right with the government guys that work with superheroes. So...yeah, it actually makes sense for a criminal that just became a mob boss in effect to not visit Mark there.
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The dude doesn't even thank Mark later. Or try to get a message out like last time to show his thanks.
