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i think its funny about how the total original tv do not steal material went back to fallout new vegas, the game that bethesda tried to bury for 15 years.
 
El Chacal De La Trompeta said:
i think its funny about how the total original tv do not steal material went back to fallout new vegas, the game that bethesda tried to bury for 15 years.
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As much as I hate this show with every fiber of my being I'll give them some credit here.

I genuinely did not expect them to have the self awareness and humility to realize that all of the OC material from season 1 sucked and retconning it out of existence.

Normally what happens in this scenario is the writers double down and screech incoherently about incels a la The Boys.
 
Clarence Boddicker said:
My first thought when he hit the button was that it was just a remote connected to nothing and he was just acting. I won't even be mad, that tracks with how stupid Lucy is, and her dad knows this.
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The problem with Lucy's stupidity possibly being canon is that she (along with Maximus and Cooper) have the most in-your-face Plot Armor I've seen in a very long time, comparable to writing a show where a naked 21st century woman travels back to the Eastern Front in WW2 and keeps surviving (while remaining naked) without getting harmed in a lasting way despite committing mistake after mistake after mistake
 
Jace on ice said:
As much as I hate this show with every fiber of my being I'll give them some credit here.

I genuinely did not expect them to have the self awareness and humility to realize that all of the OC material from season 1 sucked and retconning it out of existence.
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Season 2 soft retconning the dumbest shit from season 1 was the best thing it could do.
"Oh Vault Tec started the war? Nope, actually, Vault Tec didn't! The Enclave maybe probably did!"
"Oh, Hank used super secret nukes to blow up Shady Sands somehow? Nope! He actually used this shitty mind control device and a random nuke he knew about!"
"Oh, Robert House went along with this plan to blow up the world? Nope, actually! He was planning on defending Vegas and had zero interest in purposely ending the world."

Not that season 2 is some lore masterpiece, but it at least didn't have any mind numbing bullshit like season 1 had. Season 2 suffered way less from writers who really didn't want to work on a video game adaption so they just threw out most of the shit from the games and made up the rest.
 
I'm not as pessemistic over the S2 finale as the rest of you it seems. Maybe it's because I have already let go, and the rest of you still aren't at peace with what the show is, but I think it was about as good as can be expected.

Coop gets some measure of satisfaction, Lucy gets more or less a conclusion to her Following In His Footsteps arc, Maximus still exists, we get at least the satisfaction of knowing the Enclave are the real bad guys after all, we know the Legion, House and NCR are still players...

You can complain that it was all set-up and didn't resolve anything, but they are setting it up in a direction that I actually feel okay about, it's not entirely just "where the fuck is any of this even going".

TL;DR I saw a ranger with an anti-material rifle and I clapped!
 
BingBongDingDong said:
Kyle Maclaclan better be in the next season and he better not be another fucking version of Dougie from twin peaks.
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Maximus would definitely put a bullet in him the second he sees him so idk what they will do with him. I wonder what is the extent of his mind erasure, does it go as far back as pre great war?
 
foreman 89 said:
Maximus would definitely put a bullet in him the second he sees him so idk what they will do with him. I wonder what is the extent of his mind erasure, does it go as far back as pre great war?
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The show runs on plot contrivances so they can have Maximus hang out with Hank repeatedly next season as long as it suits what the showrunners have decided on ahead of time (self-inserted fetish gratification, grossout humor, tryhard quirkiness)
 
I'm not even gonna watch season 3, there's no point. Not even the writers know where they're going with things.
 
Nick Wilde said:
I'm not as pessemistic over the S2 finale as the rest of you it seems. Maybe it's because I have already let go, and the rest of you still aren't at peace with what the show is, but I think it was about as good as can be expected.

Coop gets some measure of satisfaction, Lucy gets more or less a conclusion to her Following In His Footsteps arc, Maximus still exists, we get at least the satisfaction of knowing the Enclave are the real bad guys after all, we know the Legion, House and NCR are still players...

You can complain that it was all set-up and didn't resolve anything, but they are setting it up in a direction that I actually feel okay about, it's not entirely just "where the fuck is any of this even going".

TL;DR I saw a ranger with an anti-material rifle and I clapped!
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I'm mostly going along with the vibe.

I can shortlist all my personal likes of season 2, though I think my imagination does a lot of the heavy lifting. The show has some concepts that are unfortunately half-baked or incomplete, and so many moments that would've been great had they not felt compelled to undercut them.

My favourite moment of the finale, and season 2 in general, if not the whole series, was this moment (the first minute at least):

I'm a sucker for this sort of thing. Selflessness, sacrifice, giving everything you've got in spite of the odds. It's kryptonite to my feelings. This was a genuine act of heroism in the show, and it wasn't undercut (at first) by derision, bravado, or some about face into immediate failure. He sacrificed his protection to keep up the defence, crawled and shambled over to some refuse, and was fully prepared to throw down with nothing but a pool cue. You can argue it wasn't warranted, or that it came out of nowhere*, or that Maximus' is so unlikable a character you felt nothing. But divorce the act itself from who's doing it for a moment, and you still got a guy who'd rather die swinging to protect people than play dead (which he could've done). Then, to cap off this heroism, it inspires one of the Freesiders to pick up a gun and rally the rest of the town's folk into–
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"I'm not doing that."
I think this moment shocked me. I pretty much forgot my mental list of remarks I was going to make on the finale because of this moment. It would've been corny as shit but the show was so close to a genuinely good scene that I can't believe they just yanked from it.

I brought it up a while back about how the denizens of Freeside aren't worth helping after they just left the Ghoul impaled and ignored, and had they went out – even a handful – to help Maximus, they would've been redeemed. Hell, maybe some cheering? I don't know. Had they done this, I would've defended the shit out of this scene so ardently people would think I was playing the long-game and was secretly the show's biggest fan.

Other than that:
1) I like Hank McClain's actor. The scene before he effectively kills himself as he struggles to hold back tears was good acting.
2) Goggins is still just a solid actor. When he becomes certain of his family's survival and he tears up/smiles, that was good.
3) The BoS civil-war episode was fucking hilarious, even if they probably didn't intent it to be. Quintus screaming heretic while blind firing at Maximus, and continuing to scream it after he left got me good. The fact this conniption fit was triggered over ghoul children was the icing on top.
4) The conclusion to the arc was nothing but Norm is far and away the most engaging character because he's the most normal of the cast.
5) Similarly, Chet going from cuck to king was nice.
6) They at least kept the Legion a bit intimidating even though their situation was retarded. They got some bonus points for crucifying Lucy.
7) House saved Vegas and wasn't reduced to being a petty villain. He isn't the House but at least every other line is emphasising the word "save". I do want a FNV mod now where you can install him into the pipboy for occasional droll remarks on the surroundings and your actions. Something akin to the Dagoth Ur follower mod.
(Not the follower mod but in a similar vein.


*It seems a smidge weak a sudden flash of his father or that BoS Knight who saved him (isn't that supposed to be Quintus?) rather something more immediate. I might've just had him glance at the store where they're all at or something.
 
Dante Alighieri said:
I'm not even gonna watch season 3, there's no point. Not even the writers know where they're going with things.
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These are the same showrunners that made Westworld. High glossy production values. Highly acclaimed initially (though whether there is rewatch value is another issue) before crashing and burning as it transpires that there was never a long term vision and they can't deliver on the set ups. There's a pattern here. Add in Amazon and disappointment is all but guaranteed the only question being how long will it take for that disappointment to manifest.
 
Jace on ice said:
Cooper being more unkillable than John Wick who actually did eventually fucking die really sucks any of the tension or stakes from this series.

He doesn't even get hurt anymore like he did in the early episodes.
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This reminds me of how Nolan flanderized Reese in Person of Interest after a couple of seasons where he would just shoot from the hip and always hit someone's knees.
 
Milkshake Sniffer said:
These are the same showrunners that made Westworld. High glossy production values. Highly acclaimed initially (though whether there is rewatch value is another issue) before crashing and burning as it transpires that there was never a long term vision and they can't deliver on the set ups. There's a pattern here. Add in Amazon and disappointment is all but guaranteed the only question being how long will it take for that disappointment to manifest.
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westworld season one is legit and my boy tony h acted his balls out. season 2 and 3 got fucking retarded and i didnt event bothered with 4,
 
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It really is amazing how contemptuous every single adaptation of popular nerd stuff is toward the source material. These modern writers love shitting on all established lore. Instead of fitting their stories into already established canon, they just make their own shit up and say the old stuff doesn't matter, my story is canon now.
 
>IMPLYING said:
1) I like Hank McClain's actor. The scene before he effectively kills himself as he struggles to hold back tears was good acting.
2) Goggins is still just a solid actor. When he becomes certain of his family's survival and he tears up/smiles, that was good.
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Couldn’t agree more on 1. He’s fantastic, and lobotomizing him, and as you said, basically killing him off, is a mistake. And I agree with 2 in essence, but the fact is that The Ghoul is just not as interesting a character as he should be.

What’s interesting is that both of them are very solid actors, both of them give their role everything they can, but they are both severely undercut by shit writing. Goggins moreso.
 
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