Amazon Studios to develop series based on Fallout

[TheHarbinger]

Next two episodes are airing 9PM on Tuesdays.

 

[Gravityqueen4life]

I take it season three will still be on the west coast then? When will this humiliation ritual end?

 

[Serbian Peacekeepers]

I take it season three will still be on the west coast then?

Nigga we don't know, season 2 isn't even over yet. If the show wants to keep visiting locations from the games, it's going to have to move east.

 

[Istmyl Ilsender]

I remember TheAlmightyLoli (the Youtuber who called Null a groomer) defended season 1 by saying a random trucker enjoying the show proves that it's good. The problem is, while the average normie who's ignorant about Fallout will likely enjoy the show, an actual fan who played the games and cares about Fallout will hate the show. Normies and fans both love the LOTR movies because Jackson took into account the people who knew nothing about Tolkien's world and also honored the die-hard fans who read the books.

 

[Serbian Peacekeepers]

Episode 7 came out today.
-Cooper gave Cold Fusion to the President of the United States of America, yes really.
-Cooper meeting the President was set up by the Senate/House lady from the Veterans Meeting and Lucky 38 front steps, and her head is actually the Mainframe that controls all of the mind control chips.
-Maximus's NCR Ranger Power Armor is found in a shed full of weapons at a old NCR settlement. When Max, The Ghoul, and Thaddeus go to the strip, the people of freeside cheer on Maximus, proclaiming that the NCR is back.
-Thaddeus's arm falls off, Coop seems to know what is happening to him, but doesn't comment on it.
-Lucy puts on the dress and almost looks like she's going to go with her dad's plan to brainwash people, but instead chains him to a oven and steals his pip-boy. She goes to destroy the Mainframe, which as I said above, is actually the head of the Government lady from earlier this season.

 

[Maker's Mark]

>''Don't think of them as humans, think of them as Americans''. Every Carney voter came as soon as they heard that line. Now imagine if you swapped ''American'' with ''Illegal Alien''?

>Whoever successfully guessed House being turned back online via cold fusion, come collect your prize.

>The Deathclaw is about to rape all of New Vegas. Todd Howard finally gets the last laugh.

 

[Commander X]

I've said it before, and I will say it again, there was a far better Fallout adaption made for the screen, and it was released in 1985, Albert Pyun's Radioactive Dreams, where two guys who spent much of their lives in a bunker, replete with early 20th entertainment including detective novels, bust out and go on a quest, but get sidetracked by side quests. Starring the soon to be "American Ninja" Michael Dudikoff and featuring a pure Eighties soundtrack that was curated by Pyun (and sadly received no physical release except for some vinyl LPs in Europe back in the 80s and a limited German release on CD back in 2011. Ever since some 35mm prints were discovered including one in near pristine condition, there have been some limited showings and I hear it's an experience to see on a big screen.

 

[TheHarbinger]

Episode 7 came out today.
-Cooper gave Cold Fusion to the President of the United States of America, yes really.

Cooper is the Forest Gump of Fallout. He's connected to every big moment in history. Operation Anchorage, the Enclave, President of America, he's friends with Mr. House in both timelines, he's the face of Vault Boy, he was alive when the bombs dropped and fought in the Great War, he survived and lives in the Wasteland centuries in the future. He's done everything. The ultimate Bethesda style level 50 character.

Whoever successfully guessed House being turned back online via cold fusion, come collect your prize.

It was beyond obvious. That was the ending of the first season. Cold fusion bringing New Vegas back online and a lingering shot of the Lucky 38. They just reset everything this season and essentially rebooted the show for its second season. And rehashed the plots once again even down to someone smuggling the device in their neck. Season three might as well be the same exact plots again.

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

Spoiler

Canadians in internment camps? Maybe you America fellas ain't so bad after all.

I hate when some dude jumps in from off screen, explodes and utterly disintegrates my power armour.

Good thing she killed that lone armed border guard off screen, otherwise I'd wonder how she managed it. And how there's only one dude on duty when government paranoia would be at an all time high.

You see, this conflict between Hank and Lucy is really interesting because they have absolutely nothing to actually talk about since the show doesn't know how to write an actual argument of philosophies. Lucy says 'Its bad', but Hank says 'But also good' and she makes bulging eye troubled face because she has no actual beliefs to draw from to form a response other than 'BUT I LIKE GOOD AND HATE BAD.'

How long have her and Hank been sitting in the office if the guys who were just brainwashed are already down on the deep level getting through cleaning?

"The legion's out there, and you could stop them with this." Yeah, I don't see Hank and his army of meat shields that he literally explains have been irreversibly stripped of violent tendencies and memories that would make them combat efficient beating an actual army. Unless we're just counting on the power of off-screen bullshit to have Hank sneak a device one very member of the army.

"How does someone on minimum wage get into a vault?" Correct me if I'm wrong, but outside of Vaults that need specific sort of people for their experiments, weren't the Vaults overall accessible to most people? It was more of a 'sign up as fast as you can' rather than a 'Have you got enough money?' sort of deal.

So it's basically confirmed that the Enclave had the cold fusion since the start and, over the course of two centuries, could not just brute force the fucking password.

All of these vault tech managers are just a-okay with murdering a guy on the word of another dude. These aren't wastelanders, not even pre-conditioned vault dwellers; the girl Norm liked even implies that many of these people potentially haven't even worked at Vault tech for more than a week so you can't even argue that Vault Tech conditioned them all or whatever. How are they just gung-ho about this sort of shit?

"You always end up back where you started, huh?" The show treats Maximus getting in a new power armour suit like he left the Brotherhood more than an episode ago.

I'm sorry, the Canadian killed the guy and either A) Chopped his body up to stuff down her sink, or B) disposed of the body, but kept the guys glasses to stuff down the sink.

Water is so low that the vault can't even use showers or toilets anymore. And Betty still won't deal with the scrawny fuckwits taking all the food. Which makes the other guys being so on board with murdering Norm even more stupid.

I'm so happy we brought Thaddeus back this season so we can do nothing with him.

Okay, Lucy's gone along with Hank's scheme, dressed up and sat down to have happy family dinner with the man... why is Hank still cuffed?

Lucy, why are you acting like you don't know that the NCR dude has had him memory and personality wiped?

Hey, Hank rattled off some words about the NCR's flaws without delving into them; that makes this deep.

"I understand. One side is murdering people, enslaving them, crucifying them. The other is vaguely problematic." Can't wait for this to be spammed on twitter as a deep and thought-provoking dunk on people who want to discuss any sort of nuance in New Vegas.

It feels like a perfect reflection of Lucy's non-existent beliefs. 'Taxes, unregulated expansion, unsustainable growth, foreign polices, systemic instability', these are all ugly, boring big words that a character might have to actually explain or consider. All she, and the writing, see of the NCR is the flashback where they were all just good people doing good things until a random evil person walked a nuke through their front door and blew them all up.

It's why it's so baffling when people argue that the NCR's 'fall' in this is just adapting the path to ruin the games set up. The NCR didn't fall because of any of the flaws New Vegas brought up, it fell because it was inconvenient to Bethesda's Wasteland fantasy.

"She's not even from America... SHE'S CANADIAN!" Okay, I fucking laughed that this is what makes them all believe him.

I don't know what you're scared of Maximus, Fallout 4 showed that even a power suit that's old, rusted and practically broken was more than enough to turn a deathclaw into a tutorial boss.

Oh no, the chainlink fence has been destroyed, now nothing's stopping the Deathclaws!

Lucky for Cooper that the machine bringing House back required zero additional input aside from putting the cold fusion in.

 

[Gravityqueen4life]

Bethesda/show writers take on the factions.

 

[Dante Alighieri]

Why does Thaddeus have to be the Marvel Comedic Relief guy? Oh here's the scene where Maximus gets the NCR suit, gotta interrupt it with the comedy!

 

[foreman 89]

I wonder what is the lore reason they're going to give as to why we've never heard of him in any previous Fallout entry.

Cooper is the Forest Gump of Fallout. He's connected to every big moment in history. Operation Anchorage, the Enclave, President of America, he's friends with Mr. House in both timelines, he's the face of Vault Boy, he was alive when the bombs dropped and fought in the Great War, he survived and lives in the Wasteland centuries in the future. He's done everything. The ultimate Bethesda style level 50 character.

It was beyond obvious. That was the ending of the first season. Cold fusion bringing New Vegas back online and a lingering shot of the Lucky 38. They just reset everything this season and essentially rebooted the show for its second season. And rehashed the plots once again even down to someone smuggling the device in their neck. Season three might as well be the same exact plots again.

 

[soulgains]

I wonder what is the lore reason they're going to give as to why we've never heard of him in any previous Fallout entry.

There is no reason, they don't care. Fallout 5 will probably take place in California and the player won't even be the main character, the Ghoul will be. Your only choices will be to help him and be the good guy or help the brotherhood do something heinous like genocide everyone and be the bad guy. The lore won't even be consistent with the shows continuity.

Rarely do I ever get angry over a piece of media, but this show really has destroyed the franchise beyond repair. I already thought Fallout 3 on release was terrible, if you showed younger me this shit his head would explode.

 

[Pentex]

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Bethesda/show writers take on the factions.

I sure hope nobody tells Frog about Bitter Springs.

Also, how much difference is there between the forced labor the NCR put on the Powder Gangers and the slaves of the Legion?

I'm glad that it's just vaguely problematic for a 'government' to demand taxes and labor from its citizens while providing no little to no material aid or protection from raiders, tribals, wildlife, or mutants.

Small traders like Cassidy Caravans gets crushed and left in the desert to rot, NCR doesn't bat an eyelash. Anybody who bothers a Caravan under Legion protection goes up on the cross.

NCR soldiers get sent into the Mojave to 'protect' worthless positions with inferior equipment and little to no quality intelligence. But hey, they might get to blow their pay on a slot machine, eat their daily ration of beans (no Brahmin steaks for you, pleb) and get murder-raped by some chem junkie raiders to defend 'democracy' back West.

Vaguely problematic.

If the Enclave is all of the worst aspects of the Deep State transmitted into a post-apocalypse setting, the NCR is likewise the worst aspects of bureaucracy masquerading as representative government.

 

[DSP for president 2032]

Forget hating the Fallout games, I'm starting to believe that these writers hate the actors and the show itself.

I've been stuck on this frame, unable to hit play. I feel like I'm significantly dumber for having witnessed this scene. I was on board with the dying mom scene, and then it hit me with the Pork & Beans. Eyepatch Bitch really just did a slit & run so she could steal some beans, because her mom told her God would forgive her. I remember when Eyepatch Bitch intrigued me in season 1. THIS is her mysterious backstory? I fucking cannot.

 

[Imperial Citizen]

Vaguely problematic.

If the Enclave is all of the worst aspects of the Deep State transmitted into a post-apocalypse setting, the NCR is likewise the worst aspects of bureaucracy masquerading as representative government.

I agree that this should be how to demonstrate the problems of the NCR. Although from Lucy's perspective, she has not had a bad experience with the NCR. She lived in Shady Sands for a time and she associates that with positive memories. She was crucified by the Legion after seeing them execute a slave. And she is being told both factions are the same by her nuke-happy, mind control experimenting father. Her comments fit her character, even though we as fans know her naivety.

Eyepatch Bitch really just did a slit & run so she could steal some beans, because her mom told her God would forgive her.

Did you not watch the preceding segment? Steph and her mother were in an internment camp, in their own country, being threatened at gunpoint by the occupying Americans. Said internment camp was in Uranium City, a mining settlement way the fuck up north in Saskatchewan. These scenes are meant to demonstrate that she has a reason to despise Americans and rationalize every immoral act she has done in the name of survival.

Outside of my responses, I want to add that I loved the scene of Cooper handing over the nuclear fusion to the President. A Netflix adaption would have had the President say "On behalf of the Enclave, we thank you Cooper." Instead we get the music and the visual medium to imply that Cooper fucked up. Also, Clancy Brown as the President was nice. He hasn't been one since the Justice Lords version of Lex Luthor. Let's hope they keep him as a cameo and not as the leader of the 2296 version of the Enclave even though I would love to see Clancy in power armor murdering wastelanders while giving out patriotic slogans.

 

[DSP for president 2032]

These scenes are meant to demonstrate that she has a reason to despise Americans

But wasn't the guy whose throat she slit a fellow Canadian (they were on the Canadian side of the border)? Can't she just push him aside and steal his beans before he reacts? Maybe ask for some beans because she's starving?

I just can't take any of it seriously. I love silliness in my wasteland, but at this point it's all just random nonsense.

 

[Imperial Citizen]

But wasn't the guy whose throat she slit a fellow Canadian (they were on the Canadian side of the border)? Can't she just push him aside and steal his beans before he reacts? Maybe ask for some beans because she's starving?

Survival for herself above all else. She is fleeing internment, so no witnesses. Again, it is to show how far she will go. It will give context for why she will inflict Hank's secret item on the vault dwellers.

 

[>IMPLYING]

I sure hope nobody tells Frog about Bitter Springs.

Also, how much difference is there between the forced labor the NCR put on the Powder Gangers and the slaves of the Legion?

I'm glad that it's just vaguely problematic for a 'government' to demand taxes and labor from its citizens while providing no little to no material aid or protection from raiders, tribals, wildlife, or mutants.

Small traders like Cassidy Caravans gets crushed and left in the desert to rot, NCR doesn't bat an eyelash. Anybody who bothers a Caravan under Legion protection goes up on the cross.

NCR soldiers get sent into the Mojave to 'protect' worthless positions with inferior equipment and little to no quality intelligence. But hey, they might get to blow their pay on a slot machine, eat their daily ration of beans (no Brahmin steaks for you, pleb) and get murder-raped by some chem junkie raiders to defend 'democracy' back West.

Vaguely problematic.

If the Enclave is all of the worst aspects of the Deep State transmitted into a post-apocalypse setting, the NCR is likewise the worst aspects of bureaucracy masquerading as representative government.

Security chief Hanlon shares with the player a story that clues the player in on why he's okay with falsifying reports against the NCR, and foreshadows that fact if you hadn't learnt of it prior.

It's kind of a long one, but all right. About twenty, twenty-five years ago, a group of NCR settlers pushed way south into Baja. I guess it doesn't seem so far now if you look at a map, but back then, they were out a ways. They built this little shanty town around a well in the middle of nowhere. Called it Rattletail."

Word got back to one of our stations that raiders had been attacking the place. I went out with six rangers. We must have been on the trail for a week before we got to Rattletail. We lost one woman to Night Stalkers and another almost died of dehydration. When we reach the place, it's six shacks set up around an old well.

There's over two dozen bodies lying in the dunes way outside of town and five men with .308 rifles crouched behind sand bags. And these bodies, these people out in the sand, they aren't raiders. Aren't even heavily armed. They're just people who were trying to get to the only well in fifty miles. I didn't have to talk to the men to see that they did not care one bit.

They had planted an NCR flag over the well and they would not budge until every last one of them was laid out, dead and cold. So I walked up and told them there was a group of raiders coming, one hundred strong. I made up some cockamamie name for them and everything. The men looked at each other, looked at us, and asked me what we were going to do about it.

I told him we would take them back into NCR territory because we had already lost ten rangers on the way out. Ten rangers, five men with .308 rifles. Well, that was enough for them. They packed up what they could and we took them back north. Last I heard, they settled somewhere in Anza-Borrego. Raised Bighorners. Had some tough times, but it worked out okay for them. So there you go. That's my one bit of good.

Prior to the discovery he's falsifying reports, you need to pass a speech check to see this dialogue. The "good" thing he did here is that he lied about the capability of the "raiders" to scare these NCR settlers out of Baja.

 

[DSP for president 2032]

Every Carney voter came as soon as they heard that line. Now imagine if you swapped ''American'' with ''Illegal Alien''?

I'm not sure if we were meant to root for the Canadian Supremacist mom. Although, I wonder what the point of that line was, given that her daughter slits a Canadian's throat moments later.

I'm glad that it's just vaguely problematic for a 'government' to demand taxes and labor from its citizens while providing no little to no material aid or protection from raiders, tribals, wildlife, or mutants.

Does Lucy even know anything about the NCR? It might make more sense for her to be naively excited about the prospect of the NCR bringing back democracy to America. What have they done - to her knowledge - that is "vaguely problematic?"

the NCR is likewise the worst aspects of bureaucracy masquerading as representative government.

I just realized why trannies love the NCR so much - it's just like the EU!