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@>IMPLYING >"I did not like this episode."

My ni55a you're not supposed to like ANY episode in this show, from ANY season if you have a properly discerning mind. This show should either be ignored entirely or hatewatched and thoroughly criticized. It is impossible to like any single episode in this show if your brain works properly. As far as I can tell the only thing remotely enjoyable about the show is Ella Purnell's body, which I hope they display in that white tank top undershirt more often or something similar.
It was meant to be an understatement lmao. I hated this episode. There were elements of episode 1 I could defend from a certain POV (which may end up not mattering depending on writer choices later on but still)

I thought the episode was exceptionally bad, maybe on the same tier as the Vault 4 episode from season 1. It contained the same bizarre infantilising of character intellect as that episode and more or less revealed that, yeah, the entire Brotherhood is now just fucking stupid and childish, and it's not just an affliction burdened on a handful of characters. Maximus is trying to be serious now and it's already better than 80% of what we saw in season 1 regarding him. But the improvements to Maximus do not overshadow how awful the Brotherhood is.

The hospital sequence was bizarrely slow in pacing, as though something worthwhile was waiting at the end, but again, IQ points drop by about a hundred. The Ghoul standing like a gormless idiot as the radscorpian half-heartedly tries to get through the door whilst looking through the window was vexing. The Ghoul slits the throat of an escaped Legion slave (though it was possibly a Legion soldier, so it might get retroactively justified later), doesn't elaborate on why, then eats a chunk out of him, "dinner", before spitting him out because he's poisoned. Then during a fight with the radscorpian proper, he grabs the other slave and uses her as a human shield. Lucy then takes the slave off of him, allowing him to get stabbed - the music and lack of focus on it makes it feel like it wasn't supposed to be comedic. She uses a stimpack on the female slave (they can cure poison now) and then leaves the Ghoul to die, and whether he'll survive or not is something she leaves the hospital being certain of but then doubts once she's outside. Obviously the Ghoul will survive, telling us that, yeah, he's pretty much immortal so long as he isn't torn apart or blown up or something (it also explains why Lucy felt comfortable leaving him to hang in episode 1, since it probably wouldn't have killed him).

Hank is meant to be experimenting on improving the brain control chip, but his experiments (far as we can tell) all involve repeating the same thing over and over with no variation. Like, what the fuck is he even doing? He also does the same thing but on a human subject, which is on-paper horrible but is low-key morally allowed due to the guy only saving himself and leaving his family behind. Again, even when a character does something that's on-paper horrible, if it has any justification whatsoever presented to the audience, then they're leaving wiggle room for the audience to argue his innocence or something later. It calls into question other shit they did and is meant to make any sudden acts of good or evil handwavable later on. Before Jamie Lannister was retconned in the very last season of GoT, him fighting the bear to protect Brienne and losing his hand preceded the reveal of his most dishonourable act (Killing the previous king) as being motivated by honour (Protecting the people). Hank is constantly being emphasised to care for "family" as a concept, so this is all meant to precede some shift in audience perception later on. I think Hank will die at the end of the season or just before for Lucy's sake, and this is meant to give way to that. The nuke stuff is still vague enough that we won't know whether Hank was pressured into it off-screen or otherwise cajoled. Either he left the vault to create the jury rigged denotator himself or someone did it for him - we don't know. (Maybe he already has a perfected version of the mind control technology in his head already or something).

Norm: "Merit dots."
He at least seems aware of how easily duped these characters are. They're also competent (the only ones in the show if we stop here lmao) so at least Bud didn't just drop 1:1 corporate managers into the vault. They're physically able, and can be directed to a task. Also, I couldn't tell if Bud had been killed or was simply immobilised. Norm already told them he's dead so when/if they discover he's still alive they might not react well. I don't have much to say except any complaints I can think of would be beating a dead horse (ubiquitous idiocy/immaturity), so take me having the fewest things to say on Norm as him being the most consistently tolerable aspect of the show and I hope they don't ruin him by turning bronze into shit.

We also got the introduction of The Legion (though the audience doesn't know that yet) and they're intimidating - so far. I hope they the necessity of making them a threat/bad guys means they'll be spared infantilising but I already know I'm asking too much.

Also pre-war Shady Sands was tidy but then the skyscrapers being bombed out husks meant they had simply colonised an already destroyed city and not built it up themselves. The NCR ranger duster looked really cheap, like it was made out of felt and not leather, which in order to make it look like a duster they would need to make it really it really heavy, which gives it a more orange-look instead of a brown look.
 
I can't imagine this being the first exposure for someone to the Fallout universe and having almost any idea what is going on.
Yeah I'm one of those people and it's true that the show is a pretty difficult to follow without any background lore. I cannot recall any off the top of my head, but there have been multiple times someone has referenced somebody or someone which probably makes sense to those who have played the games or other existing material, but to me just cause confusion.

That being said, is the show so far vis-à-vis to the games and the lore in general? I have only watched the show so I really don't know whether it's doing the source material justice.
EP2 seemed pretty bad though even as just a show viewer. No storylines overlap (yet?) so it just felt like 50 minutes of disjointed scenes and flashbacks. Should it pick up later in the season existing going off the existing lore? As I have heard that the show is pulling from existing media.
 
The Vault stuff feels like someone heard “Partly inspired by ‘Boy and his Dog’” and only heard “inspired by a Boy and his Dog”. It has the aesthetics of Fallout 76, but feels like someone just straight up ripping off Harlan Ellison.

I always liked that the Vaults the Enclave tried to set up failed. The Oil Rig was their only real holding. The DC one, I don’t actually hate, is the attempt at drawing back any other holdouts that didn’t make it to the Oil Rig.
 
I did not hate the Shady Sands nuke scene.
Yeah, the brain washed guy repeating the Nuclear Winter line was eye rolling, but I do like the explanation of the Nuke being delivered via caravan and not something super fancy. I saw someone complaining that the Nuke was in a cart and not a ICBM which I thought was a retarded complaint. If it had been a missile, people would bitch about just how much Military tec Vault Tec had pre-war, which is something the show has so far managed to not dip into. Vault Tec is still just a company that could only get what a Company could have got pre-war, even with direct connections to the US Government.
 
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That being said, is the show so far vis-à-vis to the games and the lore in general?
Honestly, the show hits the tone and general themes of Fallout more than the established lore. The issue is the competing perspectives of the fans, the current rights holders of Bethesda, and the show’s writers.

Fans want a show that’s authentic to their experience and details out the universe they’ve spent hours in. The show needs to be a believable story that takes place within Fallout.

Bethesda wants the show to be a gateway to consuming more Fallout content. Everything needs to match the current Fallout games, which is why the power armor and weapons look like the come from Fallout 4.

The writers want to tell a story set in how they perceive Fallout to be, alongside guidelines from Bethesda. The writers are certainly fans of Fallout, but they are not die hard fans.

What we get is a show that is intended to appeal to the casual fan and bring new ones on. The destruction of Shady Sands is meant to demonstrate that war, war never changes even after the bombs fall. That a society was rising out of the ashes only to be smashed down by greedy elites who may have caused the apocalypse in the first place. Such a message resounds with Fallout.

Yet the destruction of Shady Sands meant a faction that has been around since the first game was obliterated, along with the culture and potential plotlines that came with it.

A problem the show is having now is that they are course correcting to be referential to the established lore, but that won’t appease the die hards who hate you for the first season and confuses newcomers. Perhaps there is an underlying implication that newcomers should have started to play the games after the first season and thus picked up on the lore, but that idea is not bearing fruit.
 
Is the new Harkness dude supposed to have any relation to the android from Fallout 3 or just a coincidence?
>"Brotherhood of Steel on the East coast is based out of Washington D.C. and the Commonwealth. Maybe we can make this a named character who fans are familiar with, they'll like that."
>types in Commonwealth on the Fallout wiki
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"Alright, lemme write this down here: Harkness... Commonwealth..."
 
That being said, is the show so far vis-à-vis to the games and the lore in general?
The show doesn't compare at all. You should give 1 or FNV a try, depending on what game style you prefer. The atmosphere, ambiance, immersion, and roleplaying are spectacular. The writing is great and there are so many interesting and likeable characters.
 
Aside from like, the two minutes of discussion with the tranny at the base, I was genuinely enjoying that episode

Until fucking Kumail Ninjani or whatever his name showed up. He’s like, Patton Oswalt-level of show (and wife) killer.

Fuuuuuuck I don’t know if I’ll be able to continue unless he ge
 
Watching S02e01 i forgot about the forced interracial romance. Even though I don't watch much (((media))) I shouldn't have forgotten that any white person must fall in love with a nigger or sheboon.
And of course they're pushing hard on the "fallout is anti-capitalism" reddit bullshit. I hate modern writers so fucking much.
 
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And of course they're pushing hard on the "fallout is anti-capitalism" reddit bullshit. I hate modern writers so fucking much.
They picked a really dumb time for that too. Whether you think it or not, when Trump won the popular vote + US election, it was used as a data point. Corporations, usually ran by people too old (40+ is surprisingly old enough for this to occur) to keep a pulse on things so they're pushed into making certain decisions based on the the inertia of media, polls, stats, social media, etcetera ("Data-driven business" started taking off in the 90s) and this affected even movie studios. Until things started bombing in the cinema this vindication of perceived data trends (no - they do not factor in the reliability of the data's source when absorbing it) regarding all the shite we have to deal with today.

Trump winning in conjunction to several noteworthy movie/vidya/tv bombs basically buckled the notion that stuff sold better because it was "woke" - as until audience dissatisfaction started to manifest they didn't know whether to attribute success to the inclusion of progressive content or whether its success was in spite of it. Had the live action Snow White remake been scheduled for release in 2018, they probably wouldn't have gone for CGI dwarfs and kept the original grab bag of mystery meat monstrosities because the data was more reliable than any social media backlash (this was also Dorsey's Twitter so any complaints on their would've likely been buried or deleted).

Creatives do not (usually) have full authority over the script they write until it's okay'd by someone higher up first, typically the studio. and that higher up is usually one of the boomer execs who okay or seek change based on what's more likely to get people consooming the content. The pilot for season 1 has this in the bottom-right corner so it's definitely gone through iterations.
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Stuff like appearance and subsequently casting are dictated by the script first, so when you get stuff like this:
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"50s, Consummate WASP"
This was decided upon/inserted in by any one of the writers/producers/execs and then sighed off on.

Notice how Frank lacks a similar age and description? Well, I don't want to jump the gun here, but he's the only character to have his age and race listed (50, WASP i.e. white). Here's Frank (standing outside) and Mr Spencer (climbing into the shelter) a little later after this.
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Yeah. Hmm...

Some cringe from the episode 1 script (This is Maximus' character motive - to become an alpha.):
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The thing I dislike most about Gen-X and older millennials writing-wise is that they can often try too hard to be cool. Randomly dotting description with "fucking" is one example.
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(Only the script for the pilot has been released)

We never see behind the scenes material anymore that hasn't already been prettied up and staged in order to give the best impression of the process as humanly possible (last significant instance of this is the season 8 cast read of the scripts for GoT, which featured visible contempt from the cast) but changes to the script and casting based on what's more likely to pull or push away viewers can be suggested and implemented. Before this script was approved for public release they might've taken out more overt descriptions (obviously they made all of Dane's shit gender-neutral because of the pooner actress) but that one character who specifically prevents his friend and daughter entering the shelter is the only one whose race is given.

Anyway, the reason I went on about all this is decisions were made in (probably) 2022/2023 that appeared great on paper because it's what the audience would like and see, right? But then when conflicting data points came out in conjunction with financial damage as a result of these decisions, I think there were probably attempts behind the scenes to flatten out what are now considered wrinkles for viewer retention. There'll probably be less "in your face" stuff, and scenes that were filmed later chronologically in the production probably will be better than those filmed earlier.

(Trump could've been any other Republican/Conservative, the reason his victory has any bearing is because for companies they now got a massive data point showing Conservatives are not a smaller potential audience and so aren't worth ostracising)
 
I am relieved Norm is out of the vault because I was getting sick of this shit. I genuinely hope Hank kills everyone left in Vault 33 by season's end and we never deal with that again. I know the vaults are a big part of the lore but you're barely in them for the games and only come across them for side content with most of them already in ruins like the one Lucy and Cooper come across in episode one.

Of course, they made the troon character the morale angel on Maximus' shoulder. Maximus suddenly turning on a dime and becoming a Brotherhood of Steel believer felt too sudden. I was expecting that he was going to be a reluctant follower based on how season one ended with him. They've made the entire Brotherhood of Steel gormless retards because fascism bad. I bet Caesar's Legion will be ten times worse when they are properly shown in episode 3.

I have a feeling that Norm is getting set up to be the polar opposite of Lucy. While she is kind to a fault, Norm will be cold, ruthless and calculating in order to survive and they will cross paths at some point. I have not been very impressed so far and feel like this season has been a significant down grade and we have six more episodes to go.
 
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Score one for Prosthetic Man or whatever his name is; The only Brotherhood elder that gets portrayed as intelligent is a chubby native woman.
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I don't know if I can continue to cope and sneed. It really seems that the only roles played by white men are either heinously evil or harmless retard.

The Brotherhood will also just allow and encourage death battles now - you know, the organisation that doesn't often allow in new members is now allowing its members to kill one another, and with Elder consent and encouragement. The Liaison from the Commonwealth (Indian dude) nods approvingly at Maximus killing the larger guy so maybe it's just a thing now.
It's fucking baffling.
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MEANWHILE

BARE-KNUCKLE POWER ARMOR FIGHT YEEAAAAHHH!!!
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Mmhm yes, bare-knuckle power armor fight. This will unify our broken Brotherhood.
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But what we really need is a...
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EVIL WHITE DUDE DEATH BATTLE YEAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!
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That's right, beat my "son" to death!

Stop the fight? Why, it's just getting good!
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YEAHHH WE'RE MAKING BETTER THIS FALLEN WORLD!!! DEATHHH!!!

Oh look, utterly priceless pre-war tech!
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So, Quintus has a new, unique answer to the question - "what does the Brotherhood stand for?" Is it about preserving and protecting old tech and preventing another nuclear firestorm? Is it about using that pre-war tech to help and protect the people of the wasteland?
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No, it's about me - comically evil white man - turning my chapter into the fucking Orkz from Warhammer, then gathering up the other most violent chapters I can find, and becoming supreme leader of the United Brotherhood States, while I give empty platitudes about saving the world.

I guess it fits in with the theme of comically evil people trying to "end factionalism" to save the world.

I just realised that Norm's plan is more retarded than I thought. I assumed, at first, that he was unfreezing the managers to force Bud to let them go else risk them dying. But no, he unfroze them, killed the only guy with the key to the door and just hopes that the managers could figure a way to break out.
The plan you and I were thinking of doesn't seem that retarded to me. In fact, Norm should have thought of it right away. Thaw out the managers, then destroy the console that operates the cryo-pods. Even if Bud manages to somehow convince the managers that it's just a harmless little fluke and they need to be re-frozen, they would need Bud to open the door for them to get repair equipment for the pods.

I guess he's worried that they will all gang up on him and insist he gets frozen too?

Another idea would be to kill Bud, and have the managers hack the deceased roomba until the door opens.

There is literally just a big, obvious vent that goes from the wasteland into the cryo chamber.
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Yeah, The Enclave would have found this vault and exterminated it.

Dean standing off to the side, judgementally shaking her head at Maximus defending himself from some chuckle fuck trying to murder him. And the Brotherhood are just okay with some random guy trying to kill what is essentially the head knight of that chapter. Of course they are, because the Brotherhood in this series aren't a faction with their own philosophy and beliefs to discuss or challenge, they're just dudes with cool armour but are otherwise indistinguishable from everyone else.
I had to laugh every time Dane showed up just to make a frowny face at Maximus.
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You helped him become head knight, Dane. This was your idea! What the fuck else is Max supposed to do in this situation?

The Ghoul slits the throat of an escaped Legion slave (though it was possibly a Legion soldier, so it might get retroactively justified later), doesn't elaborate on why, then eats a chunk out of him, "dinner", before spitting him out because he's poisoned.
If they're escaped slaves, why does the female slave appear to be leading Lucy back to Legion territory?
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But if they're soldiers, that means Caesar's Legion has gender equality now.

Or is the slave going to try and trade Lucy's rapeable vault-ass for her freedom? That seems profoundly retarded.

Ghouly just eats human meat fresh off the human now without checking for scorpion AIDS. This writing almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.

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Is this meant to be like "oh poor Maximus has fallen for the Manosphere (Brotherhood of Steel) lies" or is it meant to be sincere?
 

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Score one for Prosthetic Man or whatever his name is; The only Brotherhood elder that gets portrayed as intelligent is a chubby native woman.
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I don't know if I can continue to cope and sneed. It really seems that the only roles played by white men are either heinously evil or harmless retard.
>Brotherhood
>look inside
>women elders.
 
EVIL WHITE DUDE DEATH BATTLE YEAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!
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That's right, beat my "son" to death!

Stop the fight? Why, it's just getting good!
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YEAHHH WE'RE MAKING BETTER THIS FALLEN WORLD!!! DEATHHH!!!
How are people still watching this shit? I simply do not comprehend someones love of an IP is so much it allows them to sit through such blatant retarded trite shit.
 
How are people still watching this shit? I simply do not comprehend someones love of an IP is so much it allows them to sit through such blatant retarded trite shit.
#1 on Amazon streaming btw... likely to go down as the greatest television program ever filmed
 
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