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Lucy's arc is that she's supposed to "grow" and acclimate to the world above, and either retain her innocence or get corrupted by it; however, her "innocence" has so far manifested in a suicidal lack of initiative when it comes to defending herself and others, and arguably non-existent considering her lackadaisical approach to life or death violence. ... I blame this on writers being ashamed/embarrassed by the material they're adapting. They need to poke fun or have a deeply unserious setting because they still regard vidya with a stigma that hasn't applied since the 90s, or feel that they'll be cringe if they tried adapting an a videogame property with the same maturity found in the source material. Modern writers might just be too self-conscious to risk being sincere lest they feel embarrassed or something.
I saw this one part about her quipping like a Marvel movie character while this biker gang hangs the ghoul she's supposedly travelling with. Ditto about things like Flea Soup Lady, Not-House's mind control device, or "what if we dropped the bomb ourselves." It's like comics whereby the writers think of the source material's target audience, and see basement dwellers.
 
Ditto about things like Flea Soup Lady,
If the flea soup thing were written like a Marvel movie, it would be ten minutes of:

"Did she say flea soup?"
"Yep."
"Like, actual fleas?"
"Yep."
"Its not just a local term for onion soup?"
"Nope."
"Actual fleas?"
"Yep."
"Seriously?"
"Uh-huh."
"Woah, that's totally gnarly, man!"

Instead, Lucy politely orders it, takes a sip and puts it down and then moves on.. which fits her character.
 
i dont know why but THE GHOUL really botters me for some reason. maybe its because i fucking gun down those fuckers every time i see them?
Dont know if all ghouls have succumbed to schizophrenia or whatever in the series because Im not gonna watch one of my favorite childhood games get raped by Todd in HD but to me it's because the name. "The Ghoul" its a fucking race, its like naming Legolas "The Elf" nigga which Elf
 
I can't find a clip of it on youtube, but a ad on Amazon shows what I believe to be the Nuke that destroyed shady sands being uncovered in the back of a Pickup. So hopefully season 2 explains how exactly Shady Sands became a massive fuck off crater. Assuming, of course, that isn't in fact a second nuke.
I'm also hoping they explain what exactly Hank was hoping to accomplish by destroying just one city. Are we supposed to believe that he's so retarded, he thinks there exists only one city in the whole world that has rebuilt?

Even Vault City - with the benefit of having actually used a GECK - is said to be so small that it faced a choice between annexation into the NCR or annihilation.
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What about the other cities, Hank? What about the other continents?

My best guess at this point is that he's going to launch nanotech-sized mind control chips into the atmosphere from New Vegas, and cause every living person in the world's head to explode. Kind of like what The Enclave were planning on doing, with their plan to use a eradicate "the muties" across the globe by releasing an aerosolized FEV derivative into the jet streams.

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Even Gemini assumes that Shady Sands was an entire civilization, and not just a single city somewhere inside territory that contains two different massive civilizations (and a few micro-ones)

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Up until now, I had assumed that Hank had re-nuked every city in the world - including the new ones - and brought civilization back to the state it was in at the time of Fallout 1. Because that is somehow less retarded than neither Rose nor Hank noticing The Hub or Junktown on the way to Shady Sands.

You know what, I think the mind control chips might be an invention by the writers to try and dig themselves out of this hole. The line from Roomba-Brain about how they will return to the surface "when there's no one left to disagree with us" is foreshadowing for how Hank intends to turn the entire world into mind-controlled slaves. This will end "factionalism" for good.

I think the scene is stupid, and frankly a waste of Big Iron, but I can hand wave most of the Kahn's retardation given the fact we see one of them inhale jet pretty much right before they hand Coop, I doubt they are firing on all cylinders.
That is a good point, but I still can't get over Ghouly and Lucy coming up with a plan this stupid.

1) pretend to be bounty hunters
2) let Ghouly get captured
3) ???
4) escape with the money

They just wanted to do the rope-shooting trick from The Good, The Bad, and fuck any logic standing in their way.
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Come to think, they should have had House inhale a bunch of Jet and pop some Mentats and Buffout, and maybe Psycho, and then do the bar fight scene. It would be less of a character assassination than what we got.

Instead, Lucy politely orders it, takes a sip and puts it down and then moves on.. which fits her character.
Am I the only one who thought she was doing the closed-mouth fake sip trick?

Futaman's review is out too:
You're going to need to do a little convincing before I watch something by a guy called Futaman.

I half-watched it during work hours for free courtesy of Cineby
I'm partial to Hurawatch's site layout. How is Cineby?

Since people weren't trained with foresight in mind and left entirely up to the GOAT to assign function, you got individuals being cripplingly overspecialised into specific roles to be used like tools for a specific task on specific whims. Blonde Overseer can't work the terminal and nobody else but Norm is capable of doing so because they weren't trained. Chet - guy now being forced into the role of a literal cuckoo bird - had the job of "gatekeeper," meant to either open/close a door that would never be opened (door to the surface) or one that'd be opened once every 3 years (door that connects to the other vault). The old dude needed a committee to approve the idea of putting up signs instead of doing it himself. When the tool is missing/gone, suddenly the vault is incapable of doing rudimentary tasks, and can't even decide for themselves to do something without first getting permission or orders. I'm guessing the guy doing the support group is probably going to realise he's good at therapy or some shit (he likes listening to people's problems) but he's not allowed to change occupancy because it's not his assigned role. Chet can't even stand at the gate anymore because it's been left open.

You could contrive a "a good leader alone isn't enough to make a good society" theme and link it to House (and Moldaver) or something, but I'm barely able to pull any of this out of the air.
I actually think you hit the nail on the head with what they're going for with the vault subplot. All the chuds who are looking for anti-white and anti-male messaging are missing the point.

Creetosis is a massive autist and there are times where he makes sweeping comments in-the-moment that are a bit premature
Him and his boyfriend were getting so angry over every little thing in the episode, it was truly hilarious.
 
Dont know if all ghouls have succumbed to schizophrenia or whatever in the series because Im not gonna watch one of my favorite childhood games get raped by Todd in HD but to me it's because the name. "The Ghoul" its a fucking race, its like naming Legolas "The Elf" nigga which Elf
Imagine if the Man with no Name from the dollars trilogy was just called "The Human" or "The Man".
 
I'm also hoping they explain what exactly Hank was hoping to accomplish by destroying just one city. Are we supposed to believe that he's so retarded, he thinks there exists only one city in the whole world that has rebuilt?
The "why?" to me is obvious, Hank did it to punish (and hopefully kill) his wife. Rose took Lucy and Norm to Shady Sands to get away from Hank, Hank found them, took Lucy and Norm back to the Vault, and then blew up Shady Sands to punish Rose, and by extension the people of Shady Sands, for not obeying him. Hank is a control freak, I don't think he gave the slightest shit about what blowing up Shady Sands would do to the NCR at large, namely it leading to some level of NCR Collapse.
 
it makes no sense for Robert OR Anthony House to be alone by himself and antagonize 3 blue collar guys who could easily swarm him before he gets the chance to latch a mind control gizmo on their neck
>Be House
>Antagonize three blue-collar speds into attacking you
>Walk into a secluded area with them
>Show that you have a bazillion dollars sitting in a trunk
>Soon your plan shall be complete, you just need to get your gizmo onto one of them without the other two whooping your ass
>God you're so brilliant
>Remember that this is America
>One of the blue-collar guys just pulls out a gun and shoots you in the head
>Vegas is fucked
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The "why?" to me is obvious, Hank did it to punish (and hopefully kill) his wife. Rose took Lucy and Norm to Shady Sands to get away from Hank, Hank found them, took Lucy and Norm back to the Vault, and then blew up Shady Sands to punish Rose, and by extension the people of Shady Sands, for not obeying him. Hank is a control freak, I don't think he gave the slightest shit about what blowing up Shady Sands would do to the NCR at large, namely it leading to some level of NCR Collapse.
I'm more concerned with "how". How the fuck did he manage to sneak a functional nuclear warhead into the middle of a hyper-populated city? I assume SS has patrols all around the parameter to prevent raiders and super mutants from sneaking in and shit, did he bribe a guard to let him bring a big ass bomb inside?

How did he detonate said nuclear warhead from a safe distance? Did he light a fuse then run really fast?

Hell, how did he even find a functional nuclear warhead? Did he just pop into an abandoned pre-war silo and carry the fucking missile on his back into town? Which also still miraculously works after 219 years?
 
>Be House
>Antagonize three blue-collar speds into attacking you
>Walk into a secluded area with them
>Show that you have a bazillion dollars sitting in a trunk
>Soon your plan shall be complete, you just need to get your gizmo onto one of them without the other two whooping your ass
>God you're so brilliant
>Remember that this is America
>One of the blue-collar guys just pulls out a gun and shoots you in the head
>Vegas is fucked
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I definitely don't even need to elaborate on this, but I'll go ahead with it anyway

There are so many things that can go wrong with that 'plan', that even casual viewers ought to raise their eyebrow

-maybe the 3 blue collar speds have friends nearby which makes it closer to 10 on 1, so even if Robert or Anthony House or 'Errol' (apparently the Italian credits have him listed as 'Errol' rather than Robert House or Anthony House)..even if he is a highly trained rich martial artist like Batman, testing the mind control gizmo if it's 10 on 1 will be a bit much

-it is very possible for one of the guys to escape and tell everyone about the incident

-it is very possible to be too occupied fending off punches and kicks to the groin and face from the 2 other guys while Robert/Anthony/Errol/whoeverthefuck tries to latch the mind control gizmo onto the neck of one of them

-even if you do latch it onto one of their necks the other two could still be attacking you, possibly pulling out a knife

-if even one of them pulls out a gun you're basically screwed

^Seriously, all this is so obvious. Even if the showrunners want to depict House as a thoroughly evil "Elon Musk MAGAt", it undermines the effectiveness of the drama to have their villain attempt something so foolish. Yet we're supposed to believe this show is good? One of the best video game adaptations of all time?

They could have easily skipped ahead from the 3 blue collar speds talking shit about House, ominously pan the view to a hidden camera or robot spying on them, to House somehow having the same 3 kidnapped in a secluded location. Then they could've depicted the mind control tech from there. But the showrunners are so thoughtless that they have him attempt this unarmed 1 against 3 in public gambit.

Of course, this is all separate from the issue that character assassinating House depicting him as a moustache twirling nuclear apocalypse inducing villain is a disgusting heinous move from Todd Howard, Emil Pagliarulo and whichever 2010s feminist writers they hired for this abomination
 
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I'm more concerned with "how". How the fuck did he manage to sneak a functional nuclear warhead into the middle of a hyper-populated city? I assume SS has patrols all around the parameter to prevent raiders and super mutants from sneaking in and shit, did he bribe a guard to let him bring a big ass bomb inside?

How did he detonate said nuclear warhead from a safe distance? Did he light a fuse then run really fast?
The clip I saw in ad showed it in the bed of a pickup, so I assume it was either snuck in with a caravan or something similar. It looked like it was timed as well.
Hell, how did he even find a functional nuclear warhead? Did he just pop into an abandoned pre-war silo and carry the fucking missile on his back into town? Which also still miraculously works after 219 years?
We're talking about TV Show Vault Tec, they probably have a retardo size stockpile of nukes hidden somewhere. It was a smallish looking nuke, probably around the same size as the nukes Liberty Prime throws.
 
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This would have been a good opportunity to showcase VATS, which I don't think Lucy has used yet. Unless I am supposed to believe every time she uses a gun it is being run in the background.
I don't think they will ever show VATS being used, because they have no way of explaining why time freezes or how you can target things through a device that has no camera or headset device anywhere.

Do you think there is a good way to show it? I'm curious.
 
They could have easily skipped ahead from the 3 blue collar speds talking shit about House, ominously pan the view to a hidden camera or robot spying on them, to House somehow having the same 3 kidnapped in a secluded location. Then they could've depicted the mind control tech from there. But the showrunners are so thoughtless that they have him attempt this unarmed 1 against 3 in public gambit.
This is a great idea, and have Man in Shadows there instead of House.
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He oversees the twisted mind control experiment being done by the robotrons on these hapless bluecollars.

By the way, Man in Shadows is obviously House, while this guy,
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is House's body double in case someone assassinates him. (the guy House is based on had body doubles in real life)

If I'm right, it's going to suck when Cooper kills body-double House because there won't be any surprise when Real House is still alive.
 
By the way, Man in Shadows is obviously House, while this guy,
I disagree, I think the Man in the Shadows is going to be the President OR some big guy in the Enclave.

My personal bet for the House storyline is that Robert House didn't go along with Vault Tec's plans, and sped up his missile defense system installations. Anthony House, wanting to get one over on his brother, stole tech from Robert and worked with Vault Tec to create mind control devices. It's clear Vault Tec doesn't want any resistance from their future citizens, so Mind Control is a obvious solution for them.
 
I disagree, I think the Man in the Shadows is going to be the President OR some big guy in the Enclave.

My personal bet for the House storyline is that Robert House didn't go along with Vault Tec's plans, and sped up his missile defense system installations. Anthony House, wanting to get one over on his brother, stole tech from Robert and worked with Vault Tec to create mind control devices. It's clear Vault Tec doesn't want any resistance from their future citizens, so Mind Control is a obvious solution for them.
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For me, it's the moustache. The man in shadow looks like he has a thicker one than House does and a slightly narrower face which is my reason for doubting it's him.

If the man in shadow is House, my pre-emptive cope is she looked at him directly to him when conveying the plan to stress the seriousness of it because House's deadline has been pushed up and he doesn't have long left to prepare (this is also dependent on Goggin's wife not being a bad guy) - I'll cope about House being a good guy until the moment he is stated not to be.

I will fedpost if Goggin's wife is made into the actual "brains" or motivating factor for House or something, I swear to God.
 
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