A majority of my complaints regarding the show boil down to how things change when she, or to a lesser extent, Maximus - Black Brotherhood guy – are on screen. Maximus by himself turns shit into Mad Max (a bit silly but still mostly human), Lucy turns shit into Borderlands (sincere and unbelievable stupidity). You can see the contrast yourself with Maximus' "caps 4 teeth" scene to Lucy's first foray into town.
Lucy's arc is that she's supposed to "grow" and acclimate to the world above, and either retain her innocence or get corrupted by it; however, her "innocence" has so far manifested in a suicidal lack of initiative when it comes to defending herself and others, and arguably non-existent considering her lackadaisical approach to life or death violence. This aspect of her character makes no sense given the start of her journey involved watching raiders raid her vault – this after having sex with one of them under false pretences before he "stabbed" her a second time, but in a markedly more unpleasant way. This ought to have done more than it did, effectively shatter her perception of things, but it didn't. She's a cartoon character.
They pay some credence to the idea that
she is the weird one, by nature of coming from a Vault, but this is dismissed almost immediately after her first interaction with the above-ground civilisations and thereafter she's supposed to be the only sane man in a world of the generally insane/eccentric.
The Ghoul's reinforcement of "this is the world now" and other platitudes fall flat when the world he's describing is bipolar in switching between brutality and whimsy. If he's present in a scene by himself, it's more grounded (Brotherhood at the observatory aside) and his wildcard/chaotic personality makes him an actual threat. In a scene with Lucy he becomes the straight man to her antics, but then Lucy becomes the straight man to other character's antics. The tone of the show is incapable of being consistent as a consequence of these decisions.
I blame this on writers being ashamed/embarrassed by the material they're adapting. They need to poke fun or have a deeply unserious setting because they still regard vidya with a stigma that hasn't applied since the 90s, or feel that they'll be cringe if they tried adapting an a videogame property with the same maturity found in the source material. Modern writers might just be too self-conscious to risk being sincere lest they feel embarrassed or something.
A lot of the concepts in Fallout might be bizarre on the surface but they're no more crazy than Star Wars or Planet of the Apes. Mad Max 2 had a character called "Humungus", a child who fought grown men with a boomerang, and a bloke who relied on a tiny venomous snake he owned to kill people lured into his trap. Planet of the Apes has Charlton Heston pull a cigar out of a survival box and
lose his goddamn mind at one of his fellow astronauts planting a tiny American flag into the dirt.
(If you never watched Planet of the Apes,
that's legitimately what sends his sides to orbit)
All these properties have more respect for themselves, the setting, and the story it's trying to tell than the Fallout TV show does.
One question that isn't asked by Creetosis in the video and was obvious to me was: How does the Ghoul know Lucy is capable enough of taking the shot? He has never actually seen her in a firefight before. He had never even saw her fire a weapon despite owning one.
Most of season 1 he had her bound and she made it known she was uncomfortable with taking lives, so if you were relying on her to lend fire support there was already a malus on her being capable of doing that?
He does walk into the aftermath of her freeing the feral ghouls at gunpoint but it's just as likely the organ harvesters were responsible for all the dead ghouls and simply during the struggle to save themselves so there's no presumption of her capabilities from that,
You could also presume she's capable enough, surviving out in the wastes as long as she has and escaping the situation with the harvesters to begin with,
maybe, but what if she whiffs it, and/or is shot dead in trying to free you?
You could surmise Vaults offer weapons training/riflery clubs, but would they come pre-built with shooting ranges or the availability of optics-based weaponry such as sniper rifles? Vaults are often very cramped, narrow places, so the purpose of long-range weaponry would be unnecessary - not impossible but illogical logisically. The show itself even has Lucy say she's "
not very good" when it comes to riflery (sten sub-machine guns?).
Did he have a backup plan in that instance? Would he have just come back to life had he been strangled to death? The goal was to get shot down, take pre-placed gun and explosive, and then defeat the Khans - but what if they had prioritised him over Lucy? How much pre-planning took place off-screen to carry out this plan? The Khans already owned the Dino-dee-lite motel so did you plan the ambush prior whilst they were away, or did you do carry out the plan whilst they were still occupying it? Did the Ghoul lure them away so Lucy could get situated in Dinky, then allow himself to get caught and taken back to be hung? Did he walk up to the front gate whilst Lucy snuck into Dinky? What if they had shot him as opposed to hanging him? Why are they hanging him and not shooting him instead? Was it his idea? Was it intended as a method of torture because he wouldn't have died (ala coffin during Ghoul's introduction in season 1) or was that the reason the Ghoul was fine going ahead with such a risky plan because he wouldn't have died due to some yet-to-be-mentioned quirk of his condition?
These questions differ from nitpicks because they're not entirely answerable from what we've seen of the narrative ourselves and they spin off into further questions, and this is on top of them likely not being answered (unless next episode begins with a flashback), so far so they're actual concerns. They can be answered and retroactively become non-issues in future episodes, so they're not too pressing (yet). For now we don't know how much time the Ghoul and Lucy have spent together off-screen and whether in that time Lucy has proven to the Ghoul her capabilities. The reason (from what I can tell) he has her tagging along is largely down to him also chasing his own closure and is simply allowing her to try and get her own (she did save him in season 1 by giving him the vague anti-feral drug).
>the reason she doesn't is because the showrunners wanted to start off the show with le funny Ella Purnell quirk chungus dialogue
This, but also because they don't know how to show her transition into a more developed state yet. Despite this change having ought to occur at the end of season 1 (
or far earlier IMO, like, episode 1 considering she fucked a guy who wasn't who she thought and he subsequently stabbed her and she almost died and she watched her fellow Vault dwellers getting massacred whilst her dad was taken away right in front of her and–) they probably didn't feel it was poignant enough a moment, so they're going to save it for when her father is killed this season or something.
Werzig, who worked for the Enclave, knew Lucy's surname. The assumption is probably he knew of it from Moldaver, but Hank is probably communicating with the Enclave and will be killed by them later on, probably to protect Lucy. This will cement Lucy's path from one of justice (on her father) to revenge (for her father).
when 'Robert House' is on tv, a group in the bar talks about him like how libs would talk about Elon Musk in 2025, and says 'we didn't vote for this dumb maggot' which is likely the libtard writers' way of alluding to the 'MAGAt' slur
Whilst this is something that
would be done in current year, I think the 2nd half of this point is contrived (for one it's a dirtbag Left thing i.e. safe edgy, which is still too far for some of them) and whilst I did perceive that initially, literally how else would express disdain for a tech billionaire that you couldn't otherwise compare to other expressions of disdain for a tech billionaire IRL? Though they usually can't help themselves so if subsequent episodes have more examples of this (1 or 2 more) then I'll concede that this was valid.
I watched a movie called Mickey 17 the other week where Mark Ruffalo was just doing a Trump impersonation all the way through so I've been too overexposed to blatant and egregious examples of seethe to see whether it's possible they can even be subtle about their disdain.
it makes no sense for Robert OR Anthony House to be alone by himself and antagonize 3 blue collar guys who could easily swarm him before he gets the chance to latch a mind control gizmo on their neck
It doesn't. Same reason as the opening is contrived: too much can go wrong for this to be any sort of thought out plan.
It'll only be somewhat funny if it's later revealed that inviting the punch was to make it so the bald guy violated the NAP so he was justified in McNuking his head.
Narratively it'll probably serve 1 of 2 purposes:
(1) This was (somehow) meant to show that House plans for
everything in advance.
(2) House likes to gamble so he intentionally put himself in a risky situation with uneven odds because he likes coming out on top in the end even when things are against him. This can be used to explain away some illogical decisions (such as not telling the world of Vault-Tec's plan because he wants to take part in the gamble), show why he's inactive later on due to a hitherto unknown event, or explain why he alone decided to go against Vault-tec's plans despite their size and support they have.
>and of course, it makes no sense for Robert House to have a mind control gizmo to begin with
Like I was talking about before in other posts and earlier in this one: it makes no sense for him to have it... but we don't know why he has it, or how he has it, or if he invented it himself, or why in this narrative exclusively it
wouldn't make sense for him to have it. If you consider the show non-canon, then this Mr House having such tech can't be classified as nonsensical because we don't know the complete picture yet.
For example: Would it make sense if he acquired it covertly, aware Vault-tec were trying to miniaturise it, and wanted to see what it was actually capable of, and whether he could reverse engineer it for his own ends? What if he acquired a prototype to see the risk it posed because he's against Vault-tec, and wants to see if he can find a means to counter that specific technology, but had to observe how it worked first to understand it? We know that Goggin's wife is supposedly dropping off the cold-fusion tech for him, so it's later revealed she's a double-agent (for House) and has been delivering House bits and pieces of Vault-tec technology to further his own plans? If he makes it all himself, and practices the utmost secrecy with his projects, then this was effectively his way of carrying out a trial of the prototype (retarded as this is)? What if House invented the device as a means to prevent the war via mind controlling select figures? Or he invented an intentionally flawed device as token technology to vault-tec (or the Enclave) in order to keep off suspicion as he builds up protective measures?
We don't know yet. It could be any, or none.
>the Flea Soup for 2 Caps out on a rest stop on the way to Vegas makes no economic sense even in a post-apocalyptic hellscape
>even weary travelers would not be willing to have someone scratch the fleas in their hair out into a bowl of 'soup' for 2 caps
>it only exists because the showrunners wanted to shoehorn in a grossout scene
All valid. That price is actually a steal considering in FNV 2 cap meals include "rat meat" and "irradiated pork and beans".
The scene serves no functional purpose besides comedy, reinforcing Lucy as the "sane" person of the wastes (she just tried to negotiate for a peaceful resolution whilst fully exposed as her companion was choking to death a scene ago) and giving the characters their next direction to move in.
They make the show's tone confused and bipolar. Why should I give a shit about the world when every 2.5 out of every 3 people is either gross, callous, or evil? The people in this show don't behave like human beings. Mothers don't care about their children (Flea soup lady + Vault overseer + (as far as we can tell) Goggin's wife, since she wants to end the world), people are self-destructively stupid (Billionaires think killing the world will make them money somehow, the pooner but her foot into a shoe filled with razorblades to avoid assignment, Vault 4 was going to let Maximus walk out with their fusion core, Lucy's vault were going to add 20+ raiders to their population via rehabilitation and the raiders subsequently showed an unwillingness to rehabilitate thereby getting themselves killed - though this might've happened regardless), and degenerate (chicken fucker salesman, incest siblings, flea soup lady - yes, she's on here twice).
>S2E1 has MULTIPLE scenes dedicated to character assassinating House
>towards the end they even have Moldaver in a flashback scene implying that House has built up missile silos and the viewer is meant to think that House helps end the world back in 2077 , rather than someone who heroically saves Vegas
My only rebukes to this are possibly copes.
(1) The assassinations are so obvious on the surface that I think they're going to rugpull. The intent isn't go create a good person, it's to create a grey one or lighter shade of black, This is worse than how House was in-game but for the story it's manufacturing a twist. They did the exact same thing with Moldaver (introduced as raider -> actually le democracy/communist-loing wholesome chungus with infinite energy) except I think it'll serve opposing goals this time around, House is pretty much the only person with influence and authority actually trying to avert war/protect humanity. Saying House contributed to the end of the world is also such a flagrant violation of canon that I don't think they'd go
that far.
I think Moldaver is wrong about House's intentions, is lying because she's actually working for the Enclave and has been working Goggin's from the start with the intent of killing House + his wife (two figures who are covertly trying to undermine plans to purposefully end the world), or is taking House's face (cooperation with Vault-tec) but not seeing his hand (using their resources to protect Vegas).
The show has already established House protected Vegas by shooting down the nukes (as opposed to deactivating them via brute force hacking + shooting down a few using Lucky 38 laser cannons) so the arsenal he's building up is possibly to
this end and not the one given by Moldaver. If all they change is House shooting them all down instead of deactivating them remotely, I'd be
okay with that.
(2) House did
nothing wrong and I don't consider it even
close to character assassination. An attempt by the writers? Sure. But it failed. If you beat someone up (or are about to do so) whilst outnumbering them, based on the fact he pointed out how you contributed to your own demise ("If you hate Amazon then why do you keep paying for prime?") then you're a nigger or a communist. Furthermore, even when House was mind controlling one of them, it was still a 1 v 2. It was really their own fault they died. House actually did a valuable public service in taking out these mouthy cunts and they should be grateful for it too, since he saved from having to fight in Alaska or go through the horror of the upcoming nuclear Armageddon.
I'm joking. Sentiment is more or less the same though.
