Alien: Covenant/Alien Series thoughts.

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Solomon Bundy said:
Hoard your physical media. They can't touch what's actually yours.
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I would not be shocked if they went back and sneakily reuploaded some of the episodes of this show to try and fix some timeline issues.
Overly Serious said:
I hope we're not spoiling anything for you
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nah I was reading the thread as I finished episodes. Not like spoilers really would make a difference on this.
Overly Serious said:
the latest one is at 6.4 currently. Though it also has a lower number of ratings as well
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My wife and I were looking at twitter/tiktok/reddit (Lord forgive us) and overall people are positive about the show or acting as an apologist for it. They’ll usually start with something negative (this was not a good alien show/there were some major issues with this show) and then follow that up with absolute glazing (but it would have been a fantastic sci fi show on it’s own/I have to give credit to the casting, directing, and writing).
 
Overly Serious said:
now just bounce shots off the juvenile xenomorph's head
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Oh that's because Noah's a retard who saw the Alien in isolation no sell getting shot. I fully believe that this was what was on his frictionless mind. Either that, or it's the same tard school of filming as Jurassic World, where the indoraptor if I recall also nosold bullets because monster.

These window lickers legit operate on bad horror game logic because they want the guns, and they want to show that their monster is super-duper strong but are too retarded to know how to make their users effective while still keeping that threat. Compare to Tremors, where local survivalist nut Burt Gummer was more than able to kill a worm, but the dirt prevented penetration. Or it's sequel, where he expected big fuck off worms, and got little raptor things and so did not have the right load out.

In Aliens, compare to them being restricted on weapon use due to location, or due to a lack of supply. In both cases it shows how you can use guns but still be restricted on them. That however is beyond them.

A smarter person could have the young Xeno injured by the gun, and then flee, using its blood as a havoc maker and distraction. It then learns to pick them off from the shadows, using the other aliens as cover. Or alternatively it learns its blood hurts their prey/hunters, and intentionally hurts itself to flick blood at them. Many such ideas can be had if you're even a simple midwit.

Oh, and since I was asked about the Nostromo I will simply state that half of the crew isn't even on the ship right now in 2120. Ripley is still at home, Lambert still in college, and Ash is not assigned. The only Mainstays at that point would be Dallas, the previous science officer, Brett, and Parker. I'm not even sure Kane's on the ship yet. He might have been just transferred to it a year prior.
 
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By the way, with this tech, they can't make a tougher droid that can fight an alien without ending up on life support?
 
R. Budd Dwyer said:
By the way, with this tech, they can't make a tougher droid that can fight an alien without ending up on life support?
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It's because of their construction. Their silicoid muscles make them far stronger than a human, but without specialized armoring and reinforcements which if they are not designed from the ground up inhibits their motion and makes them heavier, they tend to be pretty vulnerable to high impact attacks. It causes hydrostatic motions in their colloid muscles which fucks them up pretty badly, mainly by shaking apart sensitive electromotors or damaging lubricant lines.

At least that's a technobabble reason using how Synthetics get built. Noah Hawley and the creatures who wrote this have no fucking clue on this.

Also being able to talk to the Alien and having it able to express desires is the worst thing you can do. Not shocked Noah chose that in between refusing to kill foot fetish Zuckerberg as well.
 
Why is Wendy a universal remote and why can the alien hear her through what is probably hundreds of feet of concrete and steel? Still retarded she can communicate with them at all, let alone control them. They're animals that act purely on instinct, just because you can growl like a lion doesn't mean it won't rip out your intestines.
There's some ok ideas, none of which are related to the actual xenomorphs, overshadowed by asspulls and poor writing with characters I can't care about because they act retarded.
 
I.. I can't. Holy shit that finale was bad. I thought it couldn't get any worse, but by god, it did. I fucking hate it. I hate what they did with the Alien. I hate the actors (Other than Morrow) I hate everything they did. Nothing is fucking Alien in this Alien movie. It's like a fucking parody. Everytime Wendy "talked" to the pet Alien, I wanted to fucking drive a car into my screen.

I hope this fucking slop gets cancelled. But I know it won't, Disney gotta milk that horse till there's nothing left.
 
Yes the finale was absolute dogshit, which I knew it would be at least three episodes ago.

One thing that really stuck out to me was the piss poor job they did on the xenomorph. It's simply a person of average build wearing a rubber suit, making melodramatic body movements. One step about a costume from Party City.
 
Overly Serious said:
Quarter of a billion and they still couldn't afford a proper stylist for Wendy.
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The sad part is, I think they did get a stylist. An expensive one.
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It's 25 years old, but I recognized the hairstyle immediately.

They think this is all good. They want it to look and sound and feel how it does.
 
Solomon Bundy said:
The sad part is, I think they did get a stylist. An expensive one.
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It's 25 years old, but I recognized the hairstyle immediately.

They think this is all good. They want it to look and sound and feel how it does.
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That same guy made a better Alien movie than Noah Hawley could even dream of.

Look at the last 30 years of slop. I was cringing at Alien Resurrection in the theater. The only other time I've seen it (sometime in the last year) I thought it wasn't so bad after all. But since I first saw it I have seen six shitty Star Wars movies, a bunch of MCU, a couple Harry Potters, the Hobbit trilogy, umpteen DC reboots, and too many Terminators. Now tell me again, whose standards are declining!
 
I'm fine with xenomorphs being more than purely instict-driven killing machines. That's just one of the ideas from the original Alien that was eventually ditched (the rejected bad end scene had the xenomorph being able to answer the comm and perfectly imitate human speech), yet hints of which remain throughout the movie (the xenomorph quickly understands how humans move and attack, exhibits curiosity instead of going straight for the kill when it does not feel immediately threatened, and gets into the escape pod for some reason).

I'm really not fine with a xenomorph being an attack doggie.
 
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FatR said:
I'm fine with xenomorphs being more than purely instict-driven killing machines. That's just one of the ideas from the original Alien that was eventually ditched (the rejected bad end scene had the xenomorph being able to answer the comm and perfectly imitate human speech), yet hints of which remain throughout the movie (the xenomorph quickly understands how humans move and attacks, exhibits curiosity instead of going straight for the kill when it does not feel immediately threatened, and gets into the escape pod for some reason).

I'm really not fine with a xenomorph being an attack doggie.
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Ripley: "They cut the power."
Hudson: "What do you mean *they* cut the power? How could they cut the power, man? They're animals!"
 
FatR said:
I'm fine with xenomorphs being more than purely instict-driven killing machines. That's just one of the ideas from the original Alien that was eventually ditched (the rejected bad end scene had the xenomorph being able to answer the comm and perfectly imitate human speech), yet hints of which remain throughout the movie (the xenomorph quickly understands how humans move and attack, exhibits curiosity instead of going straight for the kill when it does not feel immediately threatened, and gets into the escape pod for some reason).
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It's popped up all over Alien media. Ripley and the Queen basically have a conversation when they meet, and comics like Labyrinth and Genocide showed us the same type of creatures that understand cutting the power and using elevators.
 
Overly Serious said:
Is IMDB very subject to botting? Ratings are a messy thing anyway.
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IMDB ratings are often very silly for the first few months, but ratings eventually stabilize, increasing or decreasing until they cease moving beyond a point or two. The Godfather and The Shawshank Redemption used to change places every now and then on the top 250 list years ago. This is why you'll find many animes with absurd 9 or 10 ratings and yet never see them in the top 250 save a few Ghibli films among others. BTW they do not count user ratings equally.
 
Gog & Magog said:
IMDB ratings are often very silly for the first few months.
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IMDB is owned by Amazon. The ratings are completely corporately run and don't reflect actual public sentiment. They were banning all accounts that were leaving negative reviews of Amazon shows or movies when they first purchased the site. Rings of Power in particular had them just not allow reviews for weeks on the show that were not individually approved. They also began moderating any IMDB or Amazon related reddits to the extremes to prevent people from realizing that the IMDB numbers are manipulated.

But the site also changed its ratings formula. Now users don't have their scores counted fully. If you have a regular user account and rate a show '1' and a power user ranks a score '9'. You would expect that the scores average out to a '5'. But they instead average out to a '7' or '8'. Or in some cases your score is ignored and the IMDB rating of a movie or show just remains a '9'. They call this using 'weighted scores'. Pretty much every single website that has user ratings does the same.
Gog & Magog said:
BTW they do not count user ratings equally.
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Accounts from India or China count their scores higher than accounts from America or Europe as well. To make film culture seem less White centered.
 
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