Alcoholism Support Thread - Down the hatch

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If you're coming into this thread feeling like you need to rationalize your alcohol consumption, ask yourself why you feel you need to come into this thread rationalizing your alcohol consumption?

Hey, I'd be thrilled to go on a bender once a month. Friday night with a sixer and a film sounds great.

I know that for me it's not once a month. I've been going to meetings, trying to make friends and dry out.

I can't let booze fill the empty hours. There are a lot of empty hours and there's a lot of booze.

If you look on the r/stopdrinking Reddit (I know, it's reddit, but they are one of the more normal subs) nearly every single person that ends up struggling to quit or relapses blames boredom.

The days are really fucking long if you can't just erase a bunch of hours by getting drunk. When I quit I was climbing the fucking walls trying to find stuff to do to fill my evenings but it does eventually even out over time.
 
Some of David Cassidy's final words were "so much wasted time" because he spent so much of his life drinking and doing stupid shit.
 
Anyone got any advice for after a slip? I was sober for 9 months and drank once and stopped but I need to get into that sober mindset again, I was locked tf in before I slipped now the demon's gnawing at my brain bad. I won't drink and keep telling myself time is a resource I can never get back. I'm doing good now I have a job and my life isn't complete shitty misery. Reading the r/cripplingalcoholism reddit helps remind me how awful it was
 
Anyone got any advice for after a slip? I was sober for 9 months and drank once and stopped but I need to get into that sober mindset again, I was locked tf in before I slipped now the demon's gnawing at my brain bad. I won't drink and keep telling myself time is a resource I can never get back. I'm doing good now I have a job and my life isn't complete shitty misery. Reading the r/cripplingalcoholism reddit helps remind me how awful it was
Get back on the wagon and keep doing the next right thing. Play the tape back and remember all the dumb, useless, and embarrassing shit you did while drinking. I would suggest going to a meeting and, when it's time to share, say that you're struggling and someone will talk to you after the meeting.
 
The last thing your dog needs right now is a drunk human. You can do it, buddy.
The cheat code is to fill your life with reasons to be present or rather risk damaging good things by not being. "Oh what's a friday night boozing", wake up to having yelled at a friend on steam, removed another from discord, three games installed you know are telltale signs you're drunk.

I haven't boozed in... 2 weeks now? I did the "le one little taste to see how it feels after months of sobriety" and the second that shit touched my lips I regretted it. But of course I drank cause I ain't wasting no money.

It's like looking into improving health, but literally nothing you do matters if you also drink, at any point. That one night of drinking nullifies weeks of fasting, good sleep, water intake and what not.
 
It's like looking into improving health, but literally nothing you do matters if you also drink, at any point. That one night of drinking nullifies weeks of fasting, good sleep, water intake and what not.
When I was getting into weightlifting, I read an anecdote from a guy whose friend went to the same college gym as him. They both ate right and put in the effort, but only he gained significant muscle mass and his friend did not. The only difference between the two was that his friend partied and he didn't.

Being into weightlifting is also a great way to avoid social pressure to drink. When someone pressures you, simply begin explaining to them in autistic detail how it will kill your gainz brah.
 
I'm six months sober tomorrow, but just found out my dog has cancer. Today is pretty rough. I'm sure I'll make it, but it's the hardest its been in a long time.
Hey, you make it? 6 months is nothing to throw away. Here's hoping you got through it without the drink.
 
Hey, you make it? 6 months is nothing to throw away. Here's hoping you got through it without the drink.
Thanks for checking in.
Yeah, I made it. Just coasted past 200 days.
I find it difficult that I don't have a "thing to do when shit gets tough" default any more. Back in the olden times I had Victory Whiskey for when I did something awesome (like climbing a mountain), Celebration Whiskey for when something good happened (like it was Friday), or Commiseration Whiskey when something bad happened.
Now I just have water.
 
Thanks for checking in.
Yeah, I made it. Just coasted past 200 days.
I find it difficult that I don't have a "thing to do when shit gets tough" default any more. Back in the olden times I had Victory Whiskey for when I did something awesome (like climbing a mountain), Celebration Whiskey for when something good happened (like it was Friday), or Commiseration Whiskey when something bad happened.
Now I just have water.
Post in this thread instead.
 
Thanks for checking in.
Yeah, I made it. Just coasted past 200 days.
I find it difficult that I don't have a "thing to do when shit gets tough" default any more. Back in the olden times I had Victory Whiskey for when I did something awesome (like climbing a mountain), Celebration Whiskey for when something good happened (like it was Friday), or Commiseration Whiskey when something bad happened.
Now I just have water.
... and water doesn't tickle the reward center in your brain. It sucks. But that's part of the cycle and I think you're smart enough to know that. Otherwise you'd have drank. Keep it up, you got this.

At 150 days today. I'd still rather be a smart fella than a fart smella. Let's keep it going.
My partner will attest that the absolute worst of my beer farts days was the time I drank a 6 pack of gluten free IPA on accident. Well... me drinking the entire 6-er wasn't the accident, but the fact that it was gluten free was. She was traumatized and aired the house out when it was 110 outside.
 
18 months. Crazy. Thought it was impossible.
Increasingly when someone in the community wants time with me, whether it be a potential sponsee, a meeting friend wanting to just hang out, volunteering, rehearsals, you name it, I have to puzzle over my calendar to figure out where to fit them in. My life has never been so full. I've never had these kinds of problems. It's a welcome change.
Even today, I'm meeting up with three people before spending the afternoon with a girl for the third straight weekend. I'm able to recognize my neuroses re: dating and combat them and this time it's going really, really well.

It wasn't easy. I came as close as I've ever come to relapsing this spring when I moved out again. Family drama (with the person who got me into rehab, no less), living on my own for the first time sober and all my character defects surging back, the works. But I doubled down on recovery. Threw myself into the program, into meetings, volunteering, H&I panels, etc. The family drama was made harder because the other party is clearly in the wrong and, while I appreciate, of course, the support from all my friends/loved ones, it fueled my sense of justified resentment. Poisoning my soul. I sought out people willing to tell me truths I didn't want to hear. I focused on keeping my side of the street clean, morally speaking, and not seeking to hurt her as much as she hurt me. Not doing anything, no matter how damaging, to get what I wanted. And I handled the situation with more grace and tact than I ever would have living in the bottle. By all accounts she's doing a bang-up job of blowing up her own life over this. Maybe one day I can make a 12th step call, of sorts, for her.

This shit works if you work it. Cultivating spiritual health is essential. I'm not talking finding God (though I did, in the end), I'm talking prioritizing things that make you feel accomplished, even little things. Doing the right thing instead of the easy thing. Being honest with yourself and others. Extending grace and understanding to those around you. Feeling whole instead of feeling good, if that makes sense. Learning to be comfortable with your own thoughts, to be able to find peace in a spare moment.

I think we addicts are really good at living in our own head. Building up rationalization walls and reality distortions that sabotage us when it comes to living well with others. I certainly am. Other people, and I cannot stress this enough, other people are your biggest asset towards breaking down those walls. And there's a lot of us willing to help you. This is a fucking widespread mental malady.

These are the key things I had to realize to stop white-knuckling it and relapsing, and begin to enjoy all the benefits sobriety gives you over just feeling miserable:
  • I had to accept that quitting was forever. That my drinking problem wasn't a temporary issue because my life was dogshit and when I had improved my standing I could drink normally again. Easily the hardest thing I ever did - I literally mourned my addiction for a time after making this realization. It was more devastating than any breakup I've been through. Makes sense, in hindsight, alcohol was the strongest relationship in my life.
  • I had to ditch my fear of judgement and be honest when I failed at things. People, in general, are far more forgiving of occasional fuckups if you acknowledge them than I had built it up in my head, and that fear led me to a lot of dishonesty and spiraling in the past. And I am not as important as I like to think I am, people in general think of others infinitesimally less frequently than we think of ourselves.
  • I had to learn to quiet my mind, to be at peace with myself. Fiending for a drink when stressed was but one of many mental storms I go through, and recognizing them for what they are and letting the storm pass is essential.

The 9th step promises do come true. There is a way out of this. It's both simpler and harder than you guys might think. But it's worth it. Get to a meeting, shop around, find your freaks. They may not be at the AA meeting closest to your house, I go to a lot of NA meetings as well, even though I never abused narcotics. Look for commonality with their stories and yours instead of focusing on the differences.
 
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18 months. Crazy. Thought it was impossible.
5 1/2 years and counting.

I spent time in the program. Got chips, talked. Met people. But ultimately, it wasn't the right path for me. I went to enough meetings at different locations to know each gathering is a little different, but I found the same elements that didn't work for me at all of them.

But I don't discredit the program at all, and also encourage folks to at least give it an honest try. It helps so many people and I did (and still do) meet lots of really solid individuals who got sober with Bill W. And that says nothing about the ideas and concepts I took away from the program that were helpful on my own journey.

The road to serenity is different for us all, and one of the things I took away from the program was that the most important part of it all was to be true to yourself, treat others as you want to be treated, and to help those who need help around you. Especially that last part, as there is a healing power in helping someone through your own wisdom and experience. I was able to practice this and help my brother in law get sober a couple years ago. It saved his marriage and his life, and healed some wounds within the larger family unit. I feel good about knowing my part in all that, and that feeling is therapeutic against the backdrop of my own history of actions and addictions.

I had to accept that quitting was forever.

One of the greatest revelations I had was changing my mindset from "quitting" to "retiring". I don't know about anyone else, but I know damn well I gold medal-ed Alcoholism. Took the trophy. Won the local, state and national championship. I drank ALL the alcohol. When someone does it all and there's nothing left to do, you retire. And you retire knowing you DID do it all. Nothing left on the table, no reason to drink anymore.

When I internalized this, that feeling of depriving myself wasn't as powerful. It also gave me a great way to tell folks "No" instead of being a downer by mentioning quitting when socializing. It's a lot more fun and socially adept to say "Nah, I've retired man. Thanks."

It gives you the air of a winner who went out with the gold medal instead of a quitter who's life was in shambles. Even though we all know what really happened.
 
I tried cider for the first time now with some whisky and i'm disappointed by the drunk. I drank it fast but it never gave me any euphoria. when I drink pure whisky / whisky cokes( especially gibsons finest for whatever reason) it feels good.

I'm not an alcoholic, but what are your best drink combos to get euphoria drunk? I though the trick was just to drink fast / shots but it's not working for me right now.
 
If you're not drinking to forget all your problems, shut off your brain, pass out, or chase away the DTs, then what's the point?
Don't forget that pernicious tendency to "celebrate" any achievements you have because self-esteem is weird, scary, and unfamiliar so it must be drowned out
 
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