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Preview materials have confirmed more of the new names for AAI2.
Turnabout Target = Turnabout Trigger
Nicole Swift = Tabby Lloyd (last name already known)
Horace Knightley= Bronco Knight (last name already known)
Patricia Roland = Fifi Laguarde
Simon Keyes = Simeon Saint
Jay Elbird = Rocco Carcerato
Sirhan Dogen = Bodhidharma Kanis
 
Just_a_Bored_Guy said:
Preview materials have confirmed more of the new names for AAI2.
Turnabout Target = Turnabout Trigger
Nicole Swift = Tabby Lloyd (last name already known)
Horace Knightley= Bronco Knight (last name already known)
Patricia Roland = Fifi Laguarde
Simon Keyes = Simeon Saint
Jay Elbird = Rocco Carcerato
Sirhan Dogen = Bodhidharma Kanis
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Fucking called Nicole's new name.

Overall, these are pretty good. Some of them are a little too on the nose, but I'm fine with this. I don't like Simon's new name as much has the old one, but it's still pretty good too, especially if I'm understanding the references correctly.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
The only reason Maya and Phoenix aren't together is due to the blight on humanity that is fujoshi.
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I think it's more accurate to say that fujoshis are the reason Iris has been utterly memory-holed. That whole thing was signposted very hard, and I think it was fair to understand TnT's ending as Iris getting out eventually.

If memory serves, it's only in the anime that anything is even remotely implied with Maya.
 
X Prime said:
I think it's more accurate to say that fujoshis are the reason Iris has been utterly memory-holed. That whole thing was signposted very hard, and I think it was fair to understand TnT's ending as Iris getting out eventually.

If memory serves, it's only in the anime that anything is even remotely implied with Maya.
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Do fujo's really that much power in the fandom? I understand the western side is infested with them (even the English voice actors make jokes shipping Phoenix and Edgeworth), but is it really that big among the Japanese? Ultimately they are the target demographic, not Tumblrina's.
 
AI generated waifu said:
Do fujo's really that much power in the fandom?
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In an interview found in the first Ace Attorney Fanbook ever released, the devs admitted to being aware that a lot of BL fans were into the series due to searching it up on Yahoo Japan (archive). We also know that at least two characters, Max Galactica and Ron DeLite, were designed based on the genre because of this knowledge.​
Interviewer: I heard that Mr. Iwamoto also reads Boys' Love for research….
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Takumi: That’s just Iwamoto’s own hobby (laugh).

Inaba: Hobby and work, I think?

Iwamoto: When I learned that a lot of fans of Boys' Love supported Gyakuten Saiban, I decided to read the genre. I actually designed Max based on Boys' Love-type characters. A shirt over his exposed body, super tight low-rise jeans, stuff like that.

Inaba: I see. I’m not interested in that, so I don’t read those books.

Interviewer: Not even a peek at the books on Mr. Iwamoto’s desk…?

Inaba: Not at all. It’s Iwamoto’s precious collection, so he gets angry when you touch them (laugh). He might have two copies of everything, one for use and for his collection.

Takumi: I never knew Iwamoto had those books for research until now. So that’s where Max came from! I was so surprised when you managed to design him in so little time. That explains it!

Iwamoto: I also referenced them a bit when I designed Aiga’s rival, Amasugi Yūsaku (Ron DeLite).

Inaba: I never knew. You don’t really sense that from him.

Iwamoto: Eh? Nobody noticed I actually did research for him? (laugh)
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We also have to take into account that characters like Phoenix, Edgeworth and Gumshoe have very bulky body builds, so I would not be surprised if Ace Attorney also had a Yaoi/Bara following in Japan. This has nothing to do with "tumblrinas" as that demographic only started existing in the west in the 2010s.​
 
X Prime said:
If memory serves, it's only in the anime that anything is even remotely implied with Maya.
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Yea as good as the anime is, they do leave out a few crucial details or change things up for whatever reason.

Regarding the last trial in T&T, Iris and Phoenix still have the tearful touching moment before the Not Guilty verdict, but they don't show the scene in the end credits of the game where they make cutsey eyes with each other when she's in jail.
 
Celebrate Nite said:
Regarding the last trial in T&T, Iris and Phoenix still have the tearful touching moment before the Not Guilty verdict, but they don't show the scene in the end credits of the game where they make cutsey eyes with each other when she's in jail.
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Right; one would have to be an idiot or deliberately obtuse to not realize what Phoenix making eyes at her, which he never does for any other character, means.

There's also no hint that Iris would be executed for being an accomplice (else the final scene would have been much sadder), and she would very likely have been out by the time Apollo Justice rolled around from what I looked up about Japan's sentencing. So it all has to be memoryholed and never brought up again.
 
Man, with all the yaoi brained fujo's everywhere I'm honestly so grateful the devs never went all the way to pander to them and give AA a romance subplot dragging down everything else in the games. Imagine how cringe it could've been...
 
Would love to see a case where Phoenix pulls rank on another prosecutor like he did with younger Klavier in AJ. He's been at it for way too long to keep getting caught offguard by the prosecutor of the week.

Playing through Spirit of Justice again, having fucking everyone's name be a play of words is kinda off-putting and i don't know why, since this isn't new to this particular title.
 
Psyduck said:
Would love to see a case where Phoenix pulls rank on another prosecutor like he did with younger Klavier in AJ. He's been at it for way too long to keep getting caught offguard by the prosecutor of the week.

Playing through Spirit of Justice again, having fucking everyone's name be a play of words is kinda off-putting and i don't know why, since this isn't new to this particular title.
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I feel like there was definitely a shift in how direct some of the puns are. Or perhaps it's a style that they partially weened out at one point, and then started leaning back into again. Or maybe SoJ just ends up highlighting the more awkward parts.
in particular, they tend to just make extremely obvious distortions of real phrases in the names of foreign characters (e.g. Peeslubn' Andistandhin) and titles (Mr. Reus, though that's arguably fair) And Spirit of Justice has a LOT of those.
 
Just_a_Bored_Guy said:
She doesn't sound quite haughty enough.
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Immediate issue is that she doesn't quite sound like a woman. Ironic that she had the only decent soundbite in the fanstranslation. How the turn tables.

Further reading leads me to believe the demo is only a portion of the first episodes of each game, so it seems like a 1-to-1 recreation of the DS promotional demos. Neat.

There's a list of names floating around for the remaining characters.
  • Ethan Rooke : Bastian Rook
  • Jeffery Masters : Samson Tangaroa
  • Isaac Dover : Artie Frost
  • Delicia Scones : Delicia Scone
  • Dane Gustavia : Carmelo Gusto
  • Pierre Hoquet : Paul Halique
  • Katherine Hall : Judy Bound
  • Blaise Debeste : Excelsius Winner
  • Jill Crane : Rosie Ringer
  • John Marsh : Shaun Fenn
  • Bonnie Young : Hilda Hertz
  • Jack Cameron : Alf Aldown
  • Amy Marsh : Amelie Fenn
  • Karin Jenson : Florence Niedler
  • Dai-Long Lang : Da-Long Lang
Case Names
  1. Turnabout Trigger
  2. The Captive Turnabout
  3. Turnabout Legacy
  4. A Turnabout Forsaken
  5. Turnabout for the Ages
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Celebrate Nite said:
Don't you know? All games have to be bloated pieces of shit, including the "Remales/Remasters/Updates" of older games because.... reasons.
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I get that a better resolution does bump uo the minimum requirement but we're talking about a silly pixel game from more than a decade ago. There's no excuse to make it so bloated when og AA trilogy remake worked just fine with 4 gb RAM.

As an update, I did try Investigations demo with my intel pentium 4gb ram laptop (yes, I am poor) and it works just fine. There aren't any extra cutscenes or anything really to eat up more RAM.
I guess they just didn't test properly on bottom tier machines.

It's a shame about AJ trilogy not having a demo, but I guess I'll see if any video cutscenes are messes up
 
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