A Message from a Rockstargames Employee - GTA VI

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Exactly what you said.
Unions traditionally were formed not just to protect a workers "rights" to things like fair pay & reasonable hours, but more importantly to ensure companies prioritized worker safety over profit.
Essentially they were made so that niggas wouldn't be maimed or die from insufficient safety protocols, like getting ran over by some dude working his 5th 16 hour shift that week, or someone losing their hands because a machine wasn't properly maintenanced.
Another way to put it:
Ask these unionized faggot manchildren if they'll give up their shipdate bonuses, be willing take a 50% paycut if the shipdate isn't hit, and take a tenfth of the performance bonus. There would be unimaginable seething and raging.

But those are the trade offs they are taking to be game devs. If you can't deal with the crunch time, go do some other sort of dev work.
 
The last Western video game I heard that did not restrict you in that way was Activision's GUN. That was 20 years ago.
Gun was a great game. In any case, the point wasn't about running around and slaughtering Indians. It's that they made a specific group of characters unkillable for obvious reasons of political sensibility. You can kidnap women, kill them, slaughter black people, kill Asians, kill animals, and so on, but killing Indians was where they drew the line?
 
Gun was a great game. In any case, the point wasn't about running around and slaughtering Indians. It's that they made a specific group of characters unkillable for obvious reasons of political sensibility. You can kidnap women, kill them, slaughter black people, kill Asians, kill animals, and so on, but killing Indians was where they drew the line?
Because it's unrealistic. Lol. Why would you want to kill savages?!

They should have added a feature of your camp getting raided by savages and you gotta kill them to survive and occasional injuns throughout the map hunting and then raiding small caravans and towns.

If they do another rdr they need a Oregon Trail side quest where you're the guide and it's a good 2 hour side quest from 1 area to another with injuns to scalp.

R* is afraid of the hr department that neutered them.
 
I don't trust unions in the yar 2025 to not being full of communist subversion.
That's exactly what they seem to be.
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What the fuck does racism have to do with this?
 
Over 250 more to go.
Asking for a soft working environment in like a small indie studio is one thing and demanding it in a cutthroat industry studio is another.

Unions in creative environments cause nothing but delays. You got hired at one of THE studios and you couldn't handle it and wanted to start a union so that your job would be secure and you don't have to work harder or experience crunch time.

Productivity, efficiency, and accuracy is what makes your job secure and without knowing basic human decency and English jeets can and will replace you for a fraction. And they will be replaced for faster and cheaper jeets.

Get better instead of starting unions when burnout begins to creep in. You were in it for the passion, but now it's too much?
One of the worst takes I've ever read on this forum. This is the rhetoric they hammered into the people of South Korea after the Korean War and they now work 16 hour days and live in a anarcho-capitalist hell hole.

Imagine using the threat of "you'll get replaced with jeets" to try and make people accept worse working conditions. You work to live, you do not live to work. And don't give me that 'game devs are all woke and deserve it' shit because that's a shitty tactic to make people not care.
 
I usually hear the "bust all unions, they're all commies" chants from people who are terrified of letting anyone know they've never worked hard. Decades of having KPIs out my ass have taught me, productivity is less about the efficiency of time and more about how quickly you can wear out an employee to have him replaced by a pajeet who will work for peanuts.
 
As much distrust I have for Rockstar and whatever kind of woke shitshow GTA VI is going to be (I'm assuming there's going to be a HEAVY "Orange Man is bad because he hates Mexicans" narrative given one of the protagonists is a strong independent Latina woman), I despise Unions even more. Rockstar got rid of 30 activists. Nothing more. Nothing less.
 
That's exactly what they seem to be.
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What the fuck does racism have to do with this?
Three arrows for their logo. Check out their xitter, it's mostly women, browns and a few token white guys.


Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Workers'_Union_of_Great_Britain

This is probably the most retarded name I've seen for a union. How are you an "independent worker" if you're combining with others into a union? By definition you're not independent anymore.

And here's the type of people they represent
The IWGB represents and organises workers in precarious employment,[15] as well traditionally un-unionised sectors of the "gig economy".[16][17] These include cleaners, couriers and drivers, foster carers, video games workers,[18][19] and yoga teachers.[20]
Why the fuck do yoga teachers need to be in a union? WTF? And they're going to be in the same union as video game workers? Goddamn this union is fucking retarded.

They even have a separate xitter for "IWGB women & marginalised genders
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>"IWGB women & not-women"
Rockstar didn't fire enough of them.
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One of the worst takes I've ever read on this forum. This is the rhetoric they hammered into the people of South Korea after the Korean War and they now work 16 hour days and live in a anarcho-capitalist hell hole.

Imagine using the threat of "you'll get replaced with jeets" to try and make people accept worse working conditions. You work to live, you do not live to work. And don't give me that 'game devs are all woke and deserve it' shit because that's a shitty tactic to make people not care.
You're inputting code not carrying slabs of stone while building a 3 storey house. And paid more for that too.

You're recording lines not chopping down trees in a forest. And paid more for that too.

You're shifting pixels for marketing not working the mines. And paid more for that too.

Your job is secure if you're not replaceable. People who want unions are replaceable.

How soft are you? Next you're going to tell me accounting, hr need unions cause stress.

You get into a creative job for the passion of it. Film editors don't need a union yet they have one (you're in a dark room hours on end). Screenwriters don't need a union yet they have one (my laptop is soooo heavy I could injure my wrist and lose my job! I need this union). Actors don't need a union yet they have one. (Oh man these lines are more difficult than driving a forklift)

Creative/static jobs don't need a union.

Shit needs to get done. Take it up with management that promises unreasonable deadlines to ensure contracts. Talented vfx studios are scared to lose a Disney contract so they agree to terrible deadlines that cause unions.

It wasn't an issue with the first 3 movies but the 4th one really put a nail in the coffin. Lol. You don't need to work at weta or rockstar if you can't handle it. Work at hello games or jellyfish pictures.

Every union I've worked for rewarded the "tenured" and punished the "new fish".

"Well I've earned it!" Is the attitude of the common union worker who barely does anything because they worked for years and years and years and lost the drive but love the pay cheque. Everyone else has to pick up the slack.

You can always quit for better working conditions if you can't handle it. Don't demand better working conditions. Find a job where you can have those things until it gets big and contracts roll on in, and money begins to flow and an 8 hour day becomes a 16 hour day.

I really don't understand idiots who go into a field that they thought was cool, got some hands on experience and thought that a union would make it better. For most of these you need to have gone to a creative college and creative colleges usually line up all the projects together. You experience a modicum of crunch time. If you did all the work with a smile on your face you can handle the big leagues. If you complained that it's late and you need sleep, you can't.

As for the woke aspect... Lol. Lazy replaceable people want unions. That's not woke. That's just being soft and preserving something you don't deserve.

None of this would be an issue if people didn't settle for their jobs when they didn't like the first few years of it but liked they pay cheque.

If you got hired at one of the biggest studios and the working conditions are abysmal to your standards you have the golden ticket to work for any slightly lesser studio.
 
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. I am aware of one employee who had a panic attack at this moment, and HR hung up on them during this panic attack not caring at all about their wellbeing.
they're fired and no longer employed. go cry to the union rep


Something else must be going on here. Don't get me wrong I fucking hate corpos but a company would have to be exceptionally dumb to do this without a proper reason, as employment solicitors would be all over this. UK employment rights are much stronger than in the United States, so Rockstar's HR team must have evidence of something really bad to be able to eject them out the window on the spot.

"Hey guys, welcome to our union Discord! First on the agenda, the age of consent!"
Why isn't the union raising hell and calling for a strike? the discordians must've been indefensible.
Has anyone ever tried just saying "no" to an unsolicited offer of a friendly chat with HR to avoid getting fired? I think it would work.
you can say no, then security comes around to escort you to hr or to clean your shit out. saying no to HR is blanket insubordination but ymmv regarding your contract's stipulations for termination.
People say stuff like this and then wonder why every white collar career in existence gets eroded by third-world H-1B hires. If nothing is done to protect something being attacked then it will die. Don't feed me some bullshit about how real white men prefer to work in coal mines or factories, ask the kulaks how that mindset works out.
what came first? lazy activists in white collar work or the h1b flood? i'd say the former caused the latter with their money wasting shenanigans. crunch is a thing with any white collar work. wall street firms do it, you dont see as much h1b workers in finance as you do tech.
This is the rhetoric they hammered into the people of South Korea after the Korean War and they now work 16 hour days and live in a anarcho-capitalist hell hole.
they slaved their way out of a war torn 3rd world country to be a hyper capitalist 1st world country. ask them which economic state they would've preferred.
 
Video games are a hobby, and creating them used to be a hobby as well. Perhaps games would be better if that's the way things were again.
I call it "The YouTube Conundrum", though its more in line with "Coporate niggers need to be brutalized and murdered in the streets".

When YouTube stopped being a hobby, and instead a "job", it went to complete shit. I can barely use the site anymore because everyones a money grubbing nigger using the most cancer inducing thumbnails imaginable, with the content being the lowest effort bullshit with no soul or wit to speak of to milk clicks, loaded with ad rolls, on top of having a fucking sponsor and a fucking patreon. If the only thing you care about is "line go up", you are a blight on humanity, in every regard.

The parallels between the two are night and day.
 
I can barely use the site anymore because everyones a money grubbing nigger using the most cancer inducing thumbnails imaginable
Along with using the Brave browser, I also use uBlock Origin, and a couple other youtube specific ones that were made by some jeet called SponsorBlock and DeArrow. They take user input to skip sponsor segments and replace the clickbait thumbnails and titles with something less irritating and possibly more informative. They make Youtube a lot more tolerable. If the jeet running Youtube ever goes full jeet mode and completely breaks extensions I probably won't bother with it anymore.
 
they slaved their way out of a war torn 3rd world country to be a hyper capitalist 1st world country. ask them which economic state they would've preferred.
Once again the idea that you have to be a fucking slave in order to """win""" is complete bullshit. Yes South Korea is now a 1st world country but they're still working slave hours for slave wages.
Why isn't the union raising hell and calling for a strike?
They are...
 
I call it "The YouTube Conundrum", though its more in line with "Coporate niggers need to be brutalized and murdered in the streets".

When YouTube stopped being a hobby, and instead a "job", it went to complete shit. I can barely use the site anymore because everyones a money grubbing nigger using the most cancer inducing thumbnails imaginable, with the content being the lowest effort bullshit with no soul or wit to speak of to milk clicks, loaded with ad rolls, on top of having a fucking sponsor and a fucking patreon. If the only thing you care about is "line go up", you are a blight on humanity, in every regard.

The parallels between the two are night and day.
the revanced plugins that autoskip self promo, next ep promo, sponorship promo, turn a 10 minute video into a 3 minute video and if you click skip to highlight you might just end up with a 10 second video.

it's disgusting. majority of youtubers are acting like unionized workers. doing the bare minimum expecting big payouts.
 
A lot of yanks ITT know little about British working laws or British Unions, or even about this story.

The people fired worked there for 18 years, that means they started in 2003. Those people aren't trannies, gooners, furries or faggots. All fired from the same studio without cause or reason, and no, you can't fire someone for trying to unionise or because you don't like them.

Termination laws in the UK are very strict even more so for employees who have been there for 18 years.

Now, consider who fired them; modern day HR. The way they fired them? Completely unprofessionally and, IMO, you can be the biggest trannyniggerfaggot on the planet, getting told "don't come back" after 18 years at a company is fucking bullshit.

What logical explanation is there? considering this happened a week before the delay? These employers were sick of the woke bollocks that has infested gaming and kicked up a fuss about a delay, possibly saying that the public should know the real reason behind the delay or, if rumours are to be believed, the product is finished and there are other political reasons why it has been delayed.

Do not trust modern day R*, they are greedy, petty, spiteful, resentful company that is stacked to the rafters with the worst of the programming and dev world.
 
Video about this interviewing some of the fired workers on strike:

The Workers Fired Before They Could Finish GTA 6​


We traveled to Edinburgh to meet the 31 employees fired from Rockstar Games ahead of the release of Grand Theft Auto 6. Rockstar claims these firings were due to "gross misconduct", but the workers have another two words they prefer to use instead: "union busting".

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And Anni Sayers

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preservetube: https://preservetube.com/watch?v=c9nOwjeznjI
 
Get better instead of starting unions when burnout begins to creep in. You were in it for the passion, but now it's too much?
passion doesn't fly in the current gaming climate.
your ass would get fired if you at all argued for your ideas like old Bungie did for halo.
Modern devs view the games they make as disposable trash. just look back to the SKG movement for proof,
it wasn't someone from industry itself, or some jap dev that everyone sucks off that started it.

it was some fucking mold man living in a shack who liked games so much,
he hated seeing them die more than the people who fucking worked on them.
modern gaming is filled with bitches who do nothing, and just accept dying out with no push back.

the current state of gaming deserves nothing less mass burnings
we're long overdo for a crash. the shit I see makes the ET game crash look like a fantasy.
 
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