Lovequest 4-Dec-2014 - Chris repierces his taint

[Stud2Stud]

Even if Chris keeps saying yes to have the piercing done? Because the piercer can bring his lawyer and his lawyer will back him up claiming that he has warned Chris several times about the piercing but Chris keeps insisting on it. Chris doesn't and hasn't learned to say no to things that could harm him even if he wants them. If Chris wants something, he'll do anything to get it even if it means spending the tugboat to the piercer just to get his taint piercing.

Every time I go get a new tattoo I have to sign a liability waiver. I'm pretty sure they do that for piercings too. So unless the piercer was really negligent (like using unsterilized tools or something) Charb would probably just be wasting money they don't have on filing and court costs.

But they'd still be an asshole for doing it on Chris.

I'll have to admit I don't know how it's done in the US in general or the state of Virginia in particular, but where I live, there would be one huge detail that comes into play:
Just a short conversation (or even one simple look) will tell you Chris is 'special'. So much so that one could argue it's sensible to assume Chris needs a caretaker.
Basically, there is strong reasons to believe Chris isn't able to legally give consent to such a dangerous and difficult piercing (making the waiver null and void and making the whole procedure highly irresponsible). I know that he juristically able to give his consent, but the piercer most likely doesn't know. So doing the piercing is a really reckless thing to do on his side.
If there was a lot of money on the line (and to my understanding, people have become millionaires over hot coffee mugs in the US), I could see Barb arguing her son wasn't able to decide whether or not to get such a body modification. Of course that would mean fucking over Chris' ability to ever sign a contract in the future without a caretaker, but Barb wouldn't give a fuck if she can squeeze some hoard-money out of someone.

And even with all this aside, the piercer could have refused to service Chris cause let's be honest: Chris is a mess. Mentally and phyiscally.
Just a short glance will tell you that guy has issues. Add to that his first experiment with a failed piercing and you don't have to have much imagination to come to the conclusion how it will end the next half a dozen tries.
All the piercer cared for is the money and the ever-so-important waiver that he will bear no responsibility when (edit) the whole thing goes south (/edit). That's shady as fuck.

 

[Honeyrabbit]

Just a short conversation (or even one simple look) will tell you Chris is 'special'.

Not necessarily. Remember that video where Chris is yelling at the MALE JERK in the Shovel Mech? She doesn't stutter once. Her voice is improving and she could probably ask for the piercing and sign the waiver without bringing up blue arms or something. And it's not really fair to assume that Chris is not viable for a piercing just because of appearance; she could be a completely sane and reasonable trans woman who happens to not be very good at passing, or might not even be trying to pass on that particular day. It could be considered discrimination to refuse Chris the right to get a piercing based solely on appearance or mannerisms if she didn't say or do anything of concern.

On the other hand, it's very shady that the piercer would do it a second time even after seeing the wound from the first time. Most of these places won't even give you a piercing if it even looks like it might reject or cause damage (my friend wasn't allowed a wrist surface piercing because she was slightly too skinny for the jewellery to fit comfortably and it had a higher chance of rejection because of that), so it's very worrying that the piercer would look at Chris's existing infection and think "hm, yeah, well dat looks okay"

All the piercer cared for is the money and the ever-so-important waiver that he will bear no responsibility when [edit]. That's shady as fuck.

Did you really need to throw in that thing about pus?

 

[Haesindang Park]

All the piercer cared for is the money and the ever-so-important waiver that he will bear no responsibility when pus comes out of Chris' taint by the gallon. That's shady as fuck.

If that's truly the case, both parties, the piercer and Chris, are fucked. Chris gets an infection and the piercer has to bear the responsibility for screwing with his health. Even if Barb wins in a theoretical court case against the piercer and gets her money, it won't be enough to cover Chris' medical bills nor would she care.

 

[Muncie Anderson]

Did you ever stop to think the infection was God's way of saying "This is a mistake and you should reconsider your life choices"?

"God, your thoughts have been inputed and accepted for better improvement. Thank you for your time and efforts."

 

[Captain Pronin]

When I think "migrating" I Think of the piercing being absorbed by Christines fat.

 

[Laevateinn]

*Doesn't know what a taint piercing is*

*looks it up*

Goddamn, and I thought the Sonichu on Chris's dick was bad enough... *goes to lie down and regret everything I've ever done*

 

[Lalala]

*Doesn't know what a taint piercing is*

*looks it up*

Goddamn, and I thought the Sonichu on Chris's dick was bad enough... *goes to lie down and regret everything I've ever done*

Just wait till the inevitable pics to Renee start rolling in...

 

[Honeyrabbit]

When I think "migrating" I Think of the piercing being absorbed by Christines fat.

Quite the opposite, migration means it forced itself out through her skin because her body rejected it. Proving once and for all that Chris won't even listen to her own body telling her not to do stupid stuff.

 

[timtommy]

Not necessarily. Remember that video where Chris is yelling at the MALE JERK in the Shovel Mech? She doesn't stutter once. Her voice is improving and she could probably ask for the piercing and sign the waiver without bringing up blue arms or something. And it's not really fair to assume that Chris is not viable for a piercing just because of appearance; she could be a completely sane and reasonable trans woman who happens to not be very good at passing, or might not even be trying to pass on that particular day. It could be considered discrimination to refuse Chris the right to get a piercing based solely on appearance or mannerisms if she didn't say or do anything of concern.

On the other hand, it's very shady that the piercer would do it a second time even after seeing the wound from the first time. Most of these places won't even give you a piercing if it even looks like it might reject or cause damage (my friend wasn't allowed a wrist surface piercing because she was slightly too skinny for the jewellery to fit comfortably and it had a higher chance of rejection because of that), so it's very worrying that the piercer would look at Chris's existing infection and think "hm, yeah, well dat looks okay"

I know a couple people who work in tattoo/piercing places, and they refuse service fairly regularly. Their policy tends to be that if they are not sure about it, they don't do it.

On the other hand, if the wound has healed from the first time, that might actually make it more likely they would do it. One of the standards they tend to use is "do I think this person will regret this in the immediate future". Since Chris wants the same procedure redone months later, it is reasonable to conclude he really wants it done. But as you say, if it hasn't healed and is an increased risk, that would be a red flag.

Overall, I think that, assuming it is not medically dangerous because of the old piercing, the store will not be vulnerable to discrimination charges if they refuse or vulnerable to lawsuits from Barb if they go ahead with it.

 

[Haesindang Park]

*Doesn't know what a taint piercing is*

*looks it up*

Goddamn, and I thought the Sonichu on Chris's dick was bad enough... *goes to lie down and regret everything I've ever done*

I hope you didn't see the pics of Chris's taint piercing on the CWCki.

When I think "migrating" I Think of the piercing being absorbed by Christines fat.

Ouch... For some hideous reason, I'm starting to think he kinda wants that so he can feel like that he has a clitoris in his "labia".

 

[Stud2Stud]

Not necessarily. Remember that video where Chris is yelling at the MALE JERK in the Shovel Mech? She doesn't stutter once. Her voice is improving and she could probably ask for the piercing and sign the waiver without bringing up blue arms or something. And it's not really fair to assume that Chris is not viable for a piercing just because of appearance; she could be a completely sane and reasonable trans woman who happens to not be very good at passing, or might not even be trying to pass on that particular day. It could be considered discrimination to refuse Chris the right to get a piercing based solely on appearance or mannerisms if she didn't say or do anything of concern.

Well, it really depends on his attire and behaviour, but I would be surprised if he managed to pull 'normal' off that well. His choice of clothing hasn't been the best. Maybe I'm just too familiar with his antics that I can't overlook them and take his appearance on its own, but to me Chris really doesn't look like a regular person (not even a transitioning one) and when in doubt: You might wanna refrain from piercing a guy/girl who might have mental issues, just to avoid trouble for yourself.

Again I might be mistaken, but I thought they can refuse service (similar to the 'no shirt, no shoes, no service' thing).

Did you really need to throw in that thing about pus?

I'm sorry if I went overboard, I'll edit my post...

If that's truly the case, both parties, the piercer and Chris, are fucked. Chris gets an infection and the piercer has to bear the responsibility for screwing with his health. Even if Barb wins in a theoretical court case against the piercer and gets her money, it won't be enough to cover Chris' medical bills nor would she care.

I don't think they have a fool-proof claim here, but that's something they could claim. It would also boil down to how good their lawyer is, but really, I'm more talking about the things the piercer should have been thinking about. Even if Charb weren't successful in court, would you really want to get the reputation of severely harming a mentally unstable person. Giving Chris that piercing is a bad decision and very risky. It would have been the right thing to not do it.

 

[Lalala]

Well, it really depends on his attire and behaviour, but I would be surprised if he managed to pull 'normal' off that well. His choice of clothing hasn't been the best. Maybe I'm just too familiar with his antics that I can't overlook them and take his appearance on its own, but to me Chris really doesn't look like a regular person (not even a transitioning one) and when in doubt: You might wanna refrain from piercing a guy/girl who might have mental issues, just to avoid trouble for yourself.

With his hair as it is he could have worn this outfit and convinced the piercer that he's a gay biker.

Trust me, I've seen worse, his grotty ass hair would actually look in place with this look.

 

[Honeyrabbit]

Well, it really depends on his attire and behaviour, but I would be surprised if he managed to pull 'normal' off that well. His choice of clothing hasn't been the best. Maybe I'm just too familiar with his antics that I can't overlook them and take his appearance on its own, but to me Chris really doesn't look like a regular person (not even a transitioning one) and when in doubt: You might wanna refrain from piercing a guy/girl who might have mental issues, just to avoid trouble for yourself.

Yeah, but that would essentially be refusing Chris the right to service for being badly dressed. For having a swamp down below where no piercing should ever have to sit, sure. For kicking and screaming about Sonic's blue arms, definitely. But being dressed unusually and having an odd voice is no reason to refuse someone a piercing. You have to bear in mind that the piercer knows nothing about Chris's past issues with the law, or the organised trolling, or the medallion-in-the-bumhole incident.

 

[Haesindang Park]

Yeah, but that would essentially be refusing Chris the right to service for being badly dressed. For having a swamp down below where no piercing should ever have to sit, sure. For kicking and screaming about Sonic's blue arms, definitely. But being dressed unusually and having an odd voice is no reason to refuse someone a piercing. You have to bear in mind that the piercer knows nothing about Chris's past issues with the law, or the organised trolling, or the medallion-in-the-bumhole incident.

If the piercer saw his infected taint, wouldn't he have said something like "No. Its infected. I cannot do this." Remember, the first time, he didn't know and he probably told Chris to clean himself. Second time, he has to have seen his infected taint and told him no even if Chris is demanding him to do it. I think the piercer would've not risked himself in legal trouble if he simply just refused after seeing his infected gooch. Not saying that Chris isn't at fault since he wanted it but the piercer has gotten himself in a potential lose-lose situation here.

I just hope he doesn't go back to "diddling". He's going to rupture a pus pocket, it's going to squirt out everywhere, and he's going to text Thetan "OMG gurl! My lesbian soul is gaining power. I just totally squirted when rubbing my pierced clit."
The MRSA saga will be one hell of a trip.

WTF man! Now you came up with a worse mental image than me mentioning him getting excited over his first period that happens to be his infected taint bleeding!

 

[Stud2Stud]

Yeah, but that would essentially be refusing Chris the right to service for being badly dressed. For having a swamp down below where no piercing should ever have to sit, sure. For kicking and screaming about Sonic's blue arms, definitely. But being dressed unusually and having an odd voice is no reason to refuse someone a piercing. You have to bear in mind that the piercer knows nothing about Chris's past issues with the law, or the organised trolling, or the medallion-in-the-bumhole incident.

Well, not just his weird clothes are off-putting. His behaviour as a whole would make him a walking "Don't" sign. But I didn't really consider the idea that Chris might actually behave himself and dress somewhat more normal.

In the end we'll never know the circumstances, but with all we know about Chris we can say piercing him wasn't for the best.

Edit:
This thread really makes me realize just how much I need a 'horrifying' rating...

 

[Honeyrabbit]

If the piercer saw his infected taint, wouldn't he have said something like "No. Its infected. I cannot do this." Remember, the first time, he didn't know and he probably told Chris to clean himself. Second time, he has to have seen his infected taint and told him no even if Chris is demanding him to do it. I think the piercer would've not risked himself in legal trouble if he simply just refused after seeing his infected gooch. Not saying that Chris isn't at fault since he wanted it but the piercer has gotten himself in a potential lose-lose situation here.

I said the same sort of thing before; it's weird that he pierced Chris even though her taint is clearly gross and infected, but it's not weird that he would allow Chris the right to get the piercing even though she looks and acts strange.

And now I'm validating my opinions on whether or not a piercer should stifle an autistic transsexual's right to have an infected taint. I'm officially done.

 

[MrsFrizzle]

There are people here who don't believe Chris has a cognitive disability (atismu doesn't necessarily coincide with cognitive impairment) after years of following Chris's antics. It seems like a lot to put on a piercer to assess that Chris is not firing on all cylinders, intellectually, based on one appointment.

 

[4Macie]

What some people aren't seeming to realize is that to the outside world Chris isn't any more 'weird' in meeting than some eccentric foreigner. That might sound weird, but here's how I can explain it. To the outside world, Chris looks like a weird man who likes to dress up in a half-attempt at women's clothing and wears caked on makeup. He also might smell. When he talks he seems maybe shy or unsure but he doesn't SOUND special and he doesn't seem 'special'. Chris would only seem special to people if he started talking to them about his normal shit, in this instance he's just asking for a piercing, and people in tattoo and piercing parlors aren't known to be super judgey about who gets what done because that's their job and usually their interests.

Chris doesn't seem 'special' until he starts ranting and raving and talking about Sonichu stuff. The only conversation that was likely had at this place was "I want a piercing", "What kind?", "One on my taint", "Ok... well we have some papers here for you to sign, you're aware that there will be an extra fee for this type of piercing", "Sigh, ok.". And then "So what makes you want this kind of piercing?" "Oh, I'm a Lesbian Transgender", "Oh... ok. Well here I go... All done", "Thanks!", "Here's some after-care instruc- oh ok, he's gone...".

Don't get me wrong, he seems weird as shit I'm sure, but it's unlikely that they realize he's 'special'. And to even counter that, in a court of law Chris was found to be competent to stand trial, this sure as hell means he'd be deemed competent to get any piercing he wanted.

As for the infection, they'd likely see the migration marks but I don't think it's still "tainted" (sorry had to). Migrations happen in a lot of different piercings, so it's likely that they'll just redo it and move on. Or not. We don't KNOW that Chris has officially gotten it redone yet, he hasn't sent confirmation pictures to Renee yet and hasn't said anything like "ok, got it done". We're just assuming because he said he bought the gold barbell already.

 

[Laevateinn]

I hope you didn't see the pics of Chris's taint piercing on the CWCki.

Well, the closest I got was a picture of a successful taint piercing on Wikipedia.

I'm guessing that it's a picture of Chris's first, right?

 

[NiggoFiggo]

When he went to the doctor for his infection I bet money the doctor explained to Chris why its a bad idea and the risk. But what do a trained professional know? Chris's lesbian soul NEEDS this piercing