22/07/16 Munich Terrorist Attack

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not much info yet but some kind of major police op in Germany. Rumors of a Gunman.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...tre-evacuated-after-reported-shooting-germany
attacked passengers[/URL] on a regional train in northern Bavaria on Monday, before being shot dead by police.

German officials were treating that as the first attack with a jihadi motive by an asylum seeker on German soil.

More details soon …

the guardian said:
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  • At least six people have been killed and an unknown number injured in a shooting in Munich. Police have referred to the incident as a terror attack.
  • At 5.52pm, gunshots were fired at a McDonald’s near the Olympia shopping centre (OEZ) in the northern Moosach area of the Bavarian capital.
  • A video appears to show one of the gunman on the rooftop carpark of the shopping centre.
  • A major police operation is underway. Police have said that up to three suspects armed with rifles are being hunted. No one has been arrested so far and officials have no indication of the attackers’ whereabouts.
  • Police have said all shoppers have now left the shopping centre.
  • The German government has set up a crisis response unit.
  • Residents have been warned via Munich’s smartphone warning system to avoid public places, stay in their homes where possible and turn on the TV and radio.
  • Munich central station and underground system is closed and has been evacuated. Motorists on the motorway into Munich have been asked to clear the road for police and emergency service vehicles.
  • Hospitals throughout Munich are on emergency alert and in “catastrophe mode”.
  • Police have said they could not confirm earlier reports of one or two other shootings elsewhere in the city, including in a large square known locally as Stachus.
What we don’t know:
  • No claim of responsibility has been made and there is no indication so far of the attackers’ motives.
  • It is not yet clear how many attackers opened fire or whether the shootings, described as a “rampage” by police, amounted to a coordinated or planned attack.
 
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The problem is, its just too easy to say its her fault. What if she would have said there wont be any refugees in germany?

Maybe ISIL would have gotten 1000 more suicide bombers. In such a crisis, everything you do is wrong. Fighting fire with fire has never been the solution. But I still get what you want to say. I am very angry, since I have family in munich. They are allright, but still...

I see the refugees in my town and think to myself, half of them sits everyday at the train-station drinking beer. The other half tries to do something with there lives, many syrians are well trained people. Then I see how many of them just cannot cope with the fact young girls like to wear short skirts and show skin (I like that).

But the biggest problem for them is when these girls have a middle-eastern background (talking arabic or turkish or whatever while on the phone). Then young immigrants dont want to shake hands with their female teachers and so on.

The whole situation is just sad, and I predict europe will drift apart, with populistic - right-wing parties on the rise.
People love picking the easiest target they can, even when the other option is just as detestable. Look no farther than the US, where the public and hawkish members of the government insist we're not doing enough, even when we have fucking military bases all over Europe, the Mediterranean, the Middle East and Pacific. Not to mention we've been bombing the shit out of them as is. The Pakistan drone program is 12 years old and has caused an estimated 4,000 deaths, while the re-engagement in Afghanistan in 2015 has already climbed to half that number. Most often, its hawks in Congress trying to look impressive, but people will still openly think we should do more bombings to stop ISIS. Its a pissing match that has long term implications for the narrative of how we will see the war, and delude ourselves in thinking the slight shifts in policy puts a dent in the odds of dying in a terror attack.
 
Considering how the media acts whenever there is a shooting related to Islam, I'm gonna wait a couple of months before I assume it was just about loveshy shit


Especially since the first thing he did was to scream allahu ackbar the second he started shooting


All the information about the Orlando shooter behind a repressed fag or nice shooter not being a radical all turned out to be spin and false

Wouldn't be surprised if that's the case here
 
Considering how the media acts whenever there is a shooting related to Islam, I'm gonna wait a couple of months before I assume it was just about loveshy shit


Especially since the first thing he did was to scream allahu ackbar the second he started shooting


All the information about the Orlando shooter behind a repressed fag or nice shooter not being a radical all turned out to be spin and false

Wouldn't be surprised if that's the case here
I will give them the benefit of the doubt. It was the FBI who basically said the Orlando shooter wasn't closeted. I say the best course is just wait until investigators give us a better picture. All this pointless speculation from the media is useless outside of keeping people watching and clicking. Without proof, we have nothing to base our thoughts on other than he was an German-Iranian kid who shouted Allahu akbar and ranted about Turks.
 
Do we have a name yet? As I said earlier, I know some people that fit the description and want to see if they're ok or well....
 
Do we have a name yet? As I said earlier, I know some people that fit the description and want to see if they're ok or well....
It's Ali Sonboli/Sonboly

Considering how the media acts whenever there is a shooting related to Islam, I'm gonna wait a couple of months before I assume it was just about loveshy shit


Especially since the first thing he did was to scream allahu ackbar the second he started shooting


All the information about the Orlando shooter behind a repressed fag or nice shooter not being a radical all turned out to be spin and false

Wouldn't be surprised if that's the case here
Well People in Germany still think that his name is David S, so that tells you something.
 

Shoebat isn't even Infowars level. Infowars at least occasionally makes sense and is written by people who understand english. They've also claimed that Protestants and Islamics are in bed with each other (because Islam is a form of Protestantism apparently), and that bible propechy is a legitimate science. It's run by a guy who went from radical Islam full tilt into some half baked version of Catholocism with the same nutjob furor.

http://shoebat.com/2016/07/21/high-...e-connection-between-protestantism-and-islam/

http://shoebat.com/2016/07/20/the-a...of-islam-which-was-just-fulfilled-5-days-ago/

http://shoebat.com/2016/01/25/91567/

http://shoebat.com/2016/04/10/the-b...he-coming-war-between-christians-and-muslims/

They are legitimatly insane. Also if you pay him a bunch of money he'll tell you how to defeat homosexuals and form a christian militia, and no I'm not joking.

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I'm just saying a site that spent several pages expousing how a british ww1 general's exploits in the middle east were infact a divine sign from god about what Christ will do when he returns to earth in the end times might not exactly be a reliable source.

http://shoebat.com/2014/10/18/greatest-protestant-crusader-history/
 
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Considering how the media acts whenever there is a shooting related to Islam, I'm gonna wait a couple of months before I assume it was just about loveshy shit


Especially since the first thing he did was to scream allahu ackbar the second he started shooting
I'm feeling like a broken record at this point, but here I go again: german media have not sugarcoated islamistic attacks by lying about the backgrounds.
Also, that last part about him screaming Allahu Ackbar is something I have only ever heard coming from an english interview done by CNN and German media has never confirmed that, even when they were still calling it a terroristic attack. It was mentioned as a rumor, I think, but again: never confirmed, thus I would only treat it as a rumor at this point.

All signs point to "Attention whoring asshole that should have done us all a favor by jumping off a roof". Even up to writing a manifesto, according to german TV news.

His Facebook page went down right after that article
It's almost as if there's a police investigation underway or something...
Well People in Germany still think that his name is David S, so that tells you something.
Nope. German media call him both "Ali David S." and "David S.".
 
We'll have anwsers soon, an afghan identifying as a friend of his has reported to police with information on the attack, but was detained for not speaking about it before it happened.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36880606

The statement says the youth reported to police immediately after the shooting on Friday, and was interviewed as somebody with a connection to the attacker.

But in the course of the interviews, they discovered discrepancies in his statements.

They say they are now investigating him on suspicion of failing to report a planned crime.

Sounds like Ali told kebab jr here of his plans, and kebab jr didn't beleive him, and then when the shooting happened went "oh, oh I fucked up". That or he's the dumbest accomplice ever and decided "lol i can turn myself in and talk my way out of it, becuase I am smart and cops are dumb".
 
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I'm feeling like a broken record at this point, but here I go again: german media have not sugarcoated islamistic attacks by lying about the backgrounds.
Also, that last part about him screaming Allahu Ackbar is something I have only ever heard coming from an english interview done by CNN and German media has never confirmed that, even when they were still calling it a terroristic attack. It was mentioned as a rumor, I think, but again: never confirmed, thus I would only treat it as a rumor at this point.

All signs point to "Attention whoring asshole that should have done us all a favor by jumping off a roof". Even up to writing a manifesto, according to german TV news.


It's almost as if there's a police investigation underway or something...
Earlier you were like "I've only heard him being called David S" and I've been talking to other German people who had only heard him being called that name.
 
Earlier you were like "I've only heard him being called David S" and I've been talking to other German people who had only heard him being called that name.
Yes, I did. It was a minor point while I was questioning your claim he wasn't born in Germany and had only spent around 2 years in Munich. Up to that point, the media that I saw called him David, now that I've had time to check on more sources, I have seen them also using the name Ali.
If you need sources on german media calling him Ali (or Ali David), check out N-TV, Stern or Tageszeitung München.
 
Uhh, did you fuck up the formatting or something?
Yes. I'm not going to bother to try and fix it

Yes, I did. It was a minor point while I was questioning your claim he wasn't born in Germany and had only spent around 2 years in Munich. Up to that point, the media that I saw called him David, now that I've had time to check on more sources, I have seen them also using the name Ali.
If you need sources on german media calling him Ali (or Ali David), check out N-TV, Stern or Tageszeitung München.

So theyre now calling him David Ali or Ali David. They weren't before
 
There was a memorial for the victims and a bunch of muslims interrupted screaming Allahu Ackbar

I can't believe the Western media brainwashed them in thinking that's ok. Fucking Fox News.
 
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